Thread 3 - Michael Mosley missing after disappearing on holiday walk

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Continuing

Now is not the time. Once he is found thats when the awareness campaigns can start

It is very much the time on a thread where people seemingly still think it’s perfectly normal behaviour.

There's apparently another CCTV camera on a house further along which suggests he took the path. That hasn't been released to the public yet.

Nah its just trying to find fault in his actions so people feel they can say "well it's his own fault" and think they are superior and it will never happen to them. All it can take is one wrong foot, one snake attack, one taking the wrong route. It's there but for the grace of god.

Does anyone know what the extreme heat does to the scent a sniffer dog would follow? I know a dog can follow a scent that's up to three weeks old in right conditions (presumably over vegetation, not rocks) - but what can be followed in those conditions?

Exactly @nobeans. And snarkiness isn't the best tool for educating.

Rubbish. There’s being sensible and accidents happening and there’s inviting tragedy.

To err is to be human. We all make poor or ill-judged choices from time to time and usually we get lucky and get away with them.

Can we please stop blaming Michael, his wife and their friends?

Does this thread have to descend into arguing? It's pathetic.

He most probably got lost. It's highly unlikely he rationally decided to dice with death and trigger a full scale search and rescue operation.

Fact is either knowingly or perhaps through a medical incident clouding his judgement he’s made some crazy decisions.

H&S events over the years have demonstrated that people can make all kinds of unexpected decisions for all kinds of reasons, many of which are unfathomable to anyone else but made some kind of sense to them at the time.

If you go abroad to a hot country just think about how you behave.

People often take risks on holiday (or in new environments in general) that they wouldn't take at home, because they're in the holiday mindset.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/advice/safety-on-holiday-risk-taking/

This is my point though. He took silly actions that even a kid who’d attended Scouts or DofE would not do. Obviously he didn’t intend this to happen and as I said perhaps a medical episode affected his judgement however so many on here are still arguing what he did was rational. It wasn’t.

Yes , please stop the judgemental remarks and the bitchiness.

Such a heart wrenching topic and the know it all's have to turn it into a fight. Can MN hq remove offenders ?

I'd like this thread to be about updates and questions

The media coverage on this is full of inconsistencies so its hard for joe public to have even a half a clue whats going on.

His wife says in her statement he "went for a walk" but this isn't the same as heading back to the accommodation which the media are reporting. A walk implies he was coming back, whereas heading home means just that. The media talks about him looking for a bus back, and for whatever reason this wasn't taken. Also the media says he wasn't feeling well, though where did that info come from?

What we do know from that cctv is he is heading completely the wrong direction to Symi (where he's supposedly staying). He looked confident in the footage, striding with purpose on flat terrain. Why then would he decide to scale a ruddy great mountain. Take a look on google earth or any other photos of the area. He's a clever man, he's wearing trainers and clearly not equipped in midday sun for a jaunt up a gnarly mountain. It doesn't add up he'd be so foolish.

Plus... we didn't see him walk up any treacherous mountain as the media implies. He walked past the marina, nothing more. It's just as unlikely he got offered a boat ride and then went somewhere. It's more likely he kept walking, realised he'd come to the end of the built up area and turned around. It's unfathomable!

It starts to get dark in Greece during summertime earlier than the UK with sunrise starting around 6am. In addition, outside the residential, populated areas, things will be pitchblack making searching on anything but flat terrain extremely unwise and dangerous.

I imagine calling off searches in these conditions is to prevent accidents or worse. Of course it will be agony for the family knowing that during those hours nobody is searching.

It is a very wretched situation and I can't stop thinking of him and his family as I currently escape the very hot midday sun here.

Thank you for the new thread
As they will be focussing on the.mountainous path now, I'm holding on to hope they will find some trace of the poor man today
My heart goes out to this family, whose wait for news will be tortuous.

It's not beyond the realms of rational. He probably thought he was taking the short cut. Perhaps he thought a casual stroll along the coast to the next village was the most sensible thing to do.

Had he known whatever was going to happen was going to happen then he might've made different choices but as none of us know what's happened we can't say that. He might have had an unconnected medical incident that could have happened at any time. None of us know so to blame him at this point is quite unkind speculation.

FFS stop with this. It's tiresome, dull and adds nothing to the conversation.

Most of what he'd done wasn't rational if you look at it from a dullard point of view, but he obviously liked to push boundaries and had helped many people.

I'm not going to stop challenging comments I think are grossly unfair on Michael and his family just to stay "nice"

Mumsnet should delete all the posts full of blame and absurd speculation.

The poor man is missing and most of us are just hoping for a good outcome for him and his family.

'One search member encountered by the MailOnline said: 'We have footage of him going this way from the last house in Pedi but you can't see the umbrella he was carrying.'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13508589/Our-agony-missing-Michael-Dr-Mosleys-wife-Clare-describes-disappearance-Mail-health-guru-longest-unbearable-days-children-new-CCTV-shows-heading-rocky-hills-Greek-village.html

So he put the umbrella away when he started his trek?

In one of his most recent podcasts he spoke about Nordic walking. He was so keen to research and share news of ways to strengthen your body and take on challenges. Whilst he didn't have poles, I can only rationalise him embarking on a challenge.

I read that the dog could only work for an hour because of the heat. So sadly I don’t think they can make full use of the sniffer dog. It’s just too hot for them. Not sure what the heat does to the scent.

I hope he is found alive today.

I really hope that he is somehow ok and that his fasting habits will have helped. I could never fast because I am Queen Hangry but that discipline has hopefully been very useful for him over the last few days. Still have fingers crossed for a positive outcome.