Thread 2 - Michael Mosley missing after disappearing on holiday walk

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Following on from thread 1, linked below.

Let's hope the CCTV / sighting in town gives a glimmer of home that he made the walk from the beach to town ok.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/5090880-michael-moseley-missing-after-disappearing-on-holiday-walk?page=10&reply=135846185

Perhaps she did say ‘text me when you get back’. Perhaps she felt she didn’t need to. Perhaps she didn’t have her phone with her either.

Who knows who said what to whom, and how accurately things have been reported. You’re going off essentially hearsay.

This long, I fear exposure will have gotten him if he got injured and is stuck somewhere. It’s heartbreaking. I actually hope he had a sudden cardiac arrest if he’s dead, rather than a fall and a broken ankle. At least it would have been quick. Imagine lying out there for days in pain, boiling hot and then cold overnight, dying of thirst. Horrific.

worries me it’s been so long. I really hope by some miracle he’s alive and makes a full recovery. I really like MM from his programmes and how he talks.

Maybe because you're continuing to attack a bereaved woman who has apologised for her comment and admitted that it arose out of how upset she is by her husband's recent death? Just a thought.

@Ilikeadrink14 I'm very sorry for your loss.
Please don't be driven away from the thread.

^This. At this point we have no real knowledge and yet people think they already "know" there's been a cock up, the Police ar useless etc
I am not saying they are or aren't, my version of the much touted "critical thinking" is that I am long way away and any analysis I can do is based on what is being reported by the media who have shown in the past that they don't always get the whole or the true picture at first.

We don't know what's happened.

We don't know if the Police and others have done a good ro bad job.

We don't know - and anyone sitting posting on here claiming they do no is an arrogant idiot.

Re the cctv (again, sorry). But the camera itself moves, shakes about a bit, then zooms in. A fixed CCTV camera wouldn't do that.

I wouldn’t have left my DH to walk back miles alone

But we don’t know what the plan was or what conversations were had. As far as we know, Dr Mosely’s wife believed he was walking a short distance to the village and then getting on a bus.

It's mobile phone footage of the CCTV. imagine taking a video of a video and that's what it is. The phone has zoomed in to centre MM so we are not seeing the full screen. There is nothing sinister about this.

Oh my god. I am not "continuing to attack" that poster. And FYI, I am a bereaved woman also. And FYI, I lost my loved one in a situation where they went missing and the body was not found for many, many months.

To be criticising MM's wife and friends for not having better forsight when they are going through the worst time imaginable is offensive to me. HTH.

You don’t know he said that! And they are both doctors, you’ve no idea, so stop attacking his poor family and giving it large about how great yoy are.

I expect using a mobile phone to record some CCTV footage is the quickest way to capture that footage so that it can be shared and sent to others.

I know because the alarm wasn’t raised till they returned that eve. If there’d been a plan to communicate then the group would logically have started looking earlier even if just themselves looking in town etc

Thank you for explaining, I appreciate it.

Everyone calm down. The thread is nearly full and it's mostly people having a go at each other.

Can someone start thread 3 please... although perhaps it's best not to.

With regards to some posters’ feeling that the Greek authorities and volunteers have not worked quickly enough or have somehow got things wrong, perhaps listen to Clare Moseley who is of course on the island, right at the centre of the investigation, and who- out of everyone- is the person who most wants MM to be found:

‘our family are so incredibly grateful to the people of Symi, the Greek authorities and the British Consulate who are working tirelessly to help find Michael’

It seems CM is satisfied with the level of effort being made. I think she is in the best position to make this judgement.

People make stupid judgements every day and often get rescued here by RNLI or other organisations. The point which I think is very valid is if someone has a high level of training about a particular issue they should reasonably be held to a higher standard than those without that level of knowledge/training. Not unreasonable to think that when our actions impact others.

I'm hoping he got into a fugue state - I can't think of any other explanation that could have a positive ending.

Do you not think the poor woman is not going to be castigating herself for the rest of her life? She wasn't to know it would turn out like this, and she could hardly insist on holding his hand like a toddler and walking him home.

😬

It seems to me posters are taking offence where none should be taken. Posters have different opinions on what may/may not have happened, how it’s been handled etc and that’s perfectly fine.

Let’s all be respectful of differing opinions and debate in an adult way, then no one has to leave or get anngry or upset and the discussion on what’s happened to this poor man can continue.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/5092353-thread-3-michael-mosley-missing-after-disappearing-on-holiday-walk

But, with respect, you really don’t know, you’re going off reports in the press, same as everyone else.

And you also don’t know if this is unusual behaviour or not.

People are taking issue with attacks on his family, calling them irresponsible or lacking, saying they should be held accountable or should be ashamed, when they don’t know any of the facts, inc if he felt unwell or not.

helinadream,
Thank you for your support. I might just stay! Most people on here are lovely but there are always the odd one or two who love to hurt people.

A water taxi doesn't work like an Uber or black cab!!! More like a bus. It sounds like he was planning on getting a bus from Pedi and wasn't able to so took what he thought was the short cut back to the house. The house may have been towards that end of Symi Town

They don't
(I've just checked with a friend who has related experience)

Not because it's daytime, but because they are "looking" for a blob that's a different heat. When the daytime temperature is above the mid 30s, there simply isn't enough of a difference to "see" anything. Indeed, they can be pretty unreliable with less than a 10degree difference between the background temperature and body heat, but they might try rather higher than that.

I've seen plenty of reports that show the daytime temperature is far too high to get useful results, but does anyone know how far it drops at night?