Meet the Other Phone. Protection built in.

Meet the Other Phone.
Protection built in.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Chat

Join the discussion and chat with other Mumsnetters about everyday life, relationships and parenting.

Starmer + Sunak debate thread

250 replies

MidnightPatrol · 04/06/2024 21:04

Anyone interested in discussing the debate this evening? On ITV now.

OP posts:
Thread gallery
10
Xyz1234567 · 04/06/2024 21:50

Yes, the whole show seems to make the assumption that everyone watching has the IQ and concentration span of a goldfish. It's insulting.

changeison · 04/06/2024 21:52

Starmer flaky and evasive as fuck

DizzyDandilion · 04/06/2024 21:52

I think if more talk allowed, Starmer would slaughter soundbite Sunak.

changeison · 04/06/2024 21:53

DizzyDandilion · 04/06/2024 21:52

I think if more talk allowed, Starmer would slaughter soundbite Sunak.

with what, no policies, no ideas and no costings?

Goldenbear · 04/06/2024 21:53

Fewer questions, more depth would be interesting. There appears to be 45 second answer rules - my god most of the words are being spoken by the presenter, “Thank you” and essentially, shut up!

EasternStandard · 04/06/2024 21:53

changeison · 04/06/2024 21:52

Starmer flaky and evasive as fuck

It’s really bad

bevelino · 04/06/2024 21:54

countrygirl99 · 04/06/2024 21:39

Sunaks whole argument is ignore my past performance

This

Sunak wants the country to forget about the last 14 years.

changeison · 04/06/2024 21:54

Sunak:
"if you think Labour are going to win, start saving"

Remember this. Pay attention. He's right.

changeison · 04/06/2024 21:55

oh yes and start saving

countrygirl99 · 04/06/2024 21:56

Sunak is so tetchy

GrowUpWoman · 04/06/2024 21:58

People lolling at National service idea 🤣

tweedbankline · 04/06/2024 21:58

Yeah @changeison

It's been pretty hard to save under the tories , guess he means better times are coming if we will have savings !

edwinbear · 04/06/2024 21:58

Starmer has had a nightmare, as a lawyer I’d expected him to be far better. He cannot provide an answer for anything.

shiningstar2 · 04/06/2024 21:59

Sunak interrupts far more. Sunak seems to be allowed a second response more. There should be someone timing, maybe two minutes not 45 seconds, and a buzzer going at the end of the time allowed.
Sunak wants to focus on the future, not surprising when their recorded on NHS, education,; migration ext is so poor. I'm surprised Starner hasn't focused more on the obvious ...if they are going to be so good in the future why hasn't that happened in the last 14 years. How can the country trust future plans from Sunak. They've had 14 years to; mprove things. 🤔

MO2BB · 04/06/2024 21:59

Will you explain what you mean @changeison? I’m not following you.

Xyz1234567 · 04/06/2024 21:59

Starmer looks like a naughty schoolboy being grilled by a headmaster, he's hopeless.

hereforthistoday · 04/06/2024 22:00

I was fully expecting Starmer to wipe the floor with Sunak (given his legal training) but he's coming across to me as quite weak and unprepared.

Sunak is very polished and scripted but I think he's coming across better.

Justrolledmyeyesoutloud · 04/06/2024 22:01

lightsandtunnels · 04/06/2024 21:46

I think we need a change but Starmer is not the man for the job. I don't think many people trust him or think he's up to the job - I know I don't! And this tonight hasn't helped him. I want to wait to read the manifesto too. It's going to be tricky, like the pps have said, which leg to amputate but if I had to vote for either of them today it would be Sunak.

You have arriculated my feelimgs perfectly in your post

Wasntmeanttobelikethis · 04/06/2024 22:01

Starmer not as good as I thought he would be: he seems out of his depth
Sunak as pompous and annoying as I expected

Englishrosegarden · 04/06/2024 22:02

Starmer is just hopeless. He hasn't answered a single question with any details or costs. I still have no idea at all what Labour are proposing to do. I'm not a Tory voter but Sunak is at least answering all the questions..

changeison · 04/06/2024 22:03

Englishrosegarden · 04/06/2024 22:02

Starmer is just hopeless. He hasn't answered a single question with any details or costs. I still have no idea at all what Labour are proposing to do. I'm not a Tory voter but Sunak is at least answering all the questions..

exactly!

changeison · 04/06/2024 22:03

Englishrosegarden · 04/06/2024 22:02

Starmer is just hopeless. He hasn't answered a single question with any details or costs. I still have no idea at all what Labour are proposing to do. I'm not a Tory voter but Sunak is at least answering all the questions..

yeah. vague as fuck!

ehnowthen · 04/06/2024 22:04

Why is Starmer so bad at this? An ex lawyer and barrister should be thrashing Sunak, but it seems the other way around.

Xyz1234567 · 04/06/2024 22:04

God Starmer can't even answer the football question!!

changeison · 04/06/2024 22:04

hereforthistoday · 04/06/2024 22:00

I was fully expecting Starmer to wipe the floor with Sunak (given his legal training) but he's coming across to me as quite weak and unprepared.

Sunak is very polished and scripted but I think he's coming across better.

if he does get in (god help us) let's pray it's a short spell in Number 10

Swipe left for the next trending thread