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MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 03/08/2023 13:29

*So where is there rest coming from? If we don't renew the licences, we import it from elsewhere, so not exactly solving the problem.

I know MN doesn't like the Mail, but there was an article the other day pointing out exactly this; plus that it leaves us at the mercy of the countries providing it*

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-12358755/Incredible-Rishi-Sunak-leader-NOT-planning-rely-oil-gas-imported-nasty-dictators-writes-DANIEL-HANNAN.html

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 03/08/2023 13:30

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situationalwashing · 03/08/2023 13:32

I'm sorry but no - that's his family home and his children would be terrified that's not ok.

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Blatantlyfemale · 03/08/2023 13:33

Acheyknees · 03/08/2023 10:27

Completely disagree. If we are to encourage people in to politics, their family homes should not be targeted. No wonder the calibre of our elected representatives has never been so low.

Good point.

I really want high caliber politicians.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 03/08/2023 13:33

For crying out loud. Two MPs have been killed and these goons are now showing how easy it is to get near a politician's house.

ohtobeme · 03/08/2023 13:34

I am terrified of what will happen to my children . Your child will be terrified in a few years by the change to the climate

Aren't His children are away on holiday - California or Disneyland ? they can afford to escape it all

ohtobeme · 03/08/2023 13:36

We have had thirty years of playing nice and not upsetting anybody and using conventional methods

It's just not working is it ?

Look at last summer , look at this summer , think how the weather is impacting food inflation which hits the poor hardest

If politicians won't pay attention they need to be forced to face up to what is happening

Alighttouchonthetiller · 03/08/2023 13:36

Appalling.

Blatantlyfemale · 03/08/2023 13:37

heldinadream · 03/08/2023 10:43

Sunak and family apparently en route to California on holiday at the time. So I think fair game and timing carefully chosen.
Well played Greenpeace.

No it’s not. It’s a violation. Would you respond with such sanguine if this was done to your home by people who disagreed with you, whilst you are on holiday?

We really need to move as a society away from targetting individuals to disputing ideas instead.

situationalwashing · 03/08/2023 13:37

ohtobeme · 03/08/2023 13:36

We have had thirty years of playing nice and not upsetting anybody and using conventional methods

It's just not working is it ?

Look at last summer , look at this summer , think how the weather is impacting food inflation which hits the poor hardest

If politicians won't pay attention they need to be forced to face up to what is happening

None of that gives you the right to target someone's home, and their children and family.

User165753 · 03/08/2023 13:37

ohtobeme · 03/08/2023 13:34

I am terrified of what will happen to my children . Your child will be terrified in a few years by the change to the climate

Aren't His children are away on holiday - California or Disneyland ? they can afford to escape it all

Maybe you shouldn't have had them, too late to moan now

Acheyknees · 03/08/2023 13:40

ohtobeme · 03/08/2023 13:36

We have had thirty years of playing nice and not upsetting anybody and using conventional methods

It's just not working is it ?

Look at last summer , look at this summer , think how the weather is impacting food inflation which hits the poor hardest

If politicians won't pay attention they need to be forced to face up to what is happening

So what's your solution?

VariationsonaTheme · 03/08/2023 13:43

This particular property is relatively difficult to keep completely secure due to its location, my sister lives close by, but I’m amazed they seem to have just walked in without anyone noticing. I think security may be increased very promptly.

ResisterRex · 03/08/2023 13:44

If politicians won't pay attention they need to be forced to face up to what is happening

Threats then. Like terrorists use.

No way is this stunt a good idea at all. Once we've agreed our elected representatives are legitimate targets (and who cares about their families, collateral damage innit) who's next? Where does it end? What is even the point of elected representatives when we can have unelected activists calling the shots?

Jujubes5 · 03/08/2023 13:48

What is the point ?????

if RS banned cars, flights, oil hed just be voted out at the next election

nasty and threatening behaviour imv -we’ve got 2killed MPs. let’s not encourage the nutters.

DomesticatedZombies · 03/08/2023 13:48

i can see that once all the violent men who are currently TRAs realise that they are on the wrong side of history, they’ll quickly do a 180 to commit this sort of thing as a legitimate way to indulge their nasty controlling urges.

kikigen · 03/08/2023 13:48

Agree with other posters that since his family were in California at the time there are no concerns about frightening the children / indtuding on domesticity.

But the kids and his wife will know this has happened and it will likely leave them on edge when they return and are in the house. I vote dick move.

WarmWinterSun · 03/08/2023 13:50

@MrsDanversGlidesAgain

There is no comparison to be made with suffragettes. They could not access democratic systems.

loislovesstewie · 03/08/2023 13:52

OK, so exactly what do you think should be done then? If you have all the answers then do something practical, stand for Parliament, invent something. Tell us exactly what you would ask governments to do, not wishy-washy stuff actual workable solutions.

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 03/08/2023 14:03

ohtobeme · 03/08/2023 13:34

I am terrified of what will happen to my children . Your child will be terrified in a few years by the change to the climate

Aren't His children are away on holiday - California or Disneyland ? they can afford to escape it all

You've had more than one child and you're moaning about climate change?

onefinemess · 03/08/2023 14:04

So burglary and criminal damage to a private home is OK as long as it has something to do with "Climate Change".

Yeah, not sure I agree.

Climate Change is not something to be too concerned about. It won't affect the planet, just us, the planet will be fine.

WarmWinterSun · 03/08/2023 14:04

@loislovesstewie

this is just an idea, but how about the protesters lead a campaign to boycott all products from countries known to be the most serious emissions contributors. Protests could be held outside the Chinese embassy, a social media campaign could be run, pressure could be put on retailers not to sell products from major climate change contributors, education campaigns could be run, etc. It’s just one alternative idea. I’m sure many and probably better ideas are available that don’t involve the types of stunts currently being deployed. But regardless of this, it does not change the fact that targeting the PM’s personal home is unacceptable. Even if there was no other option, which obviously isn’t the case in our democratic society, this behaviour still would not be acceptable.

countrygirl99 · 03/08/2023 14:08

onefinemess · 03/08/2023 14:04

So burglary and criminal damage to a private home is OK as long as it has something to do with "Climate Change".

Yeah, not sure I agree.

Climate Change is not something to be too concerned about. It won't affect the planet, just us, the planet will be fine.

It's not burglary and it'snot criminal damage unless they have damaged something.
But if they can do that what could a terrorist or spy wanting to plant listening devices do? They've highlighted a security weakness.

loislovesstewie · 03/08/2023 14:10

I agree that personal homes should not be targetted. What I find irritating is that no one seems able to come up with sensible ideas , it's all wishy washy stuff , and doesn't take into account that we shouldn't be asked to return to the stone age.

CloudyMcCloud · 03/08/2023 14:11

countrygirl99 · 03/08/2023 14:08

It's not burglary and it'snot criminal damage unless they have damaged something.
But if they can do that what could a terrorist or spy wanting to plant listening devices do? They've highlighted a security weakness.

Or plant something worse than listening devices

Really poor

I doubt Greenpeace are coming out of this well with the majority of the public

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