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loislovesstewie · 04/08/2023 07:42

Indigotree · 04/08/2023 00:18

Heat pumps have been around for a very long time.

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I know, but we still have very few actual qualified people to fit them, we don't have well insulated homes so we can use them efficiently , we don't actually produce enough green energy to run them, we don't provide a big enough grant to enable people to fit them. It can cost 18000quid , the grant is 5000. In short we have put the cart before the horse, the government wants us all to have them but haven't provided the infrastructure/incentives to do it.

AIBot · 04/08/2023 08:43

AnSolas · 04/08/2023 06:18

By working in the system where everybody gets to vote and that vote has the same weight for everybody.

And be active writing to your elected reps
If you like one and want that person elected work on the campaign

Better yet stand for office and carrry the public"s votes into the Commons

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So basically your response is to tell people to continue with the well intentioned but ineffective actions they’ve already been doing for at least 35 years. A period when emissions have gone up massively and up and earth is the hottest it’s been in 100,000 years. No.

DomesticatedZombies · 04/08/2023 08:52

There’s no way I’m donating to greenpeace now, although that stopped when they were driving jeeps round the Nazca lines and wrecking them. Targeting Rishis home was disgusting, what about all the other public figures who can’t afford multiple homes and security, how will they be kept safe from this.
And in fact I think granting those oil permits was ver sensible. We need power security until we go net zero.

Why don’t those protesters go and help people put in solar panels.Or go litter picking with greenpeace logos on their hi viz jackets it would get them more respect than home invasion. But yobs will be yobs.

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AIBot · 04/08/2023 08:58

And in fact I think granting those oil permits was ver sensible. We need power security until we go net zero.

You can think what you like but you’re wrong yes we need power security but North Sea oil and gas cannot deliver this. in fact I think granting those oil permits was ver sensible. We need power security until we go net zero. Fact check.

AnSolas · 04/08/2023 09:01

AIBot · 04/08/2023 08:43

So basically your response is to tell people to continue with the well intentioned but ineffective actions they’ve already been doing for at least 35 years. A period when emissions have gone up massively and up and earth is the hottest it’s been in 100,000 years. No.

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AIBot · Yesterday 20:42
if it gives his kids nightmares perhaps he will actually listen.

So what is your line?
How much harm can be done to a child ?

HopelessEstateAgents · 04/08/2023 09:05

Blondey2023 · 03/08/2023 10:31

No this is not ok. This is his home and his poor children will be terrified if they see this.

They're doing it FOR his children

HopelessEstateAgents · 04/08/2023 09:06

Twoshoesnewshoes · 03/08/2023 10:35

Not okay to make it personal like this, it doesn’t help.
do it at Whitehall.

He's the prime minister FFS

PatientZorro · 04/08/2023 09:07

These protestors are absolute dickheads

CloudyMcCloud · 04/08/2023 09:08

AnSolas · 04/08/2023 09:01

AIBot · Yesterday 20:42
if it gives his kids nightmares perhaps he will actually listen.

So what is your line?
How much harm can be done to a child ?

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I agree. So bad. What a line

DomesticatedZombies · 04/08/2023 09:13

AIBot · 04/08/2023 09:00

I read your link, it says those licences will be meaningless. Because they take 28 years to start extracting the oil and gas, by which time hopefully we won’t need them. So you’re protesting about what?

DomesticatedZombies · 04/08/2023 09:18

Ps I’m not the real DomesticatedZombie, she may have different opinions. I’m off for a name change again as I didn’t realise I’d picked a name close to that of a pronominal poster

KnittedCardi · 04/08/2023 09:34

It's a dickmove however you look at it. What we do in the UK in global terms is a fleck compared to the emerging economies, who have already emitted more in the last couple of decades than we have in total since the industrial revolution. China has pumped our more pollution in 8 years than we have in 220.

We are among several countries who have already halved our emmissions.

What politicians currently are doing is a balanced, sensible move to net zero. You can't just STOP OIL. Our entire way of life depends on oil or oil derivatives.

If the government said tomorrow, you can no longer drive your car, have only one child, eat only vegetables, only use electricity for two hours a day. Ban imports from high emmittors, so no tech, and no electricity to run it anyway. All your jobs would collapse, everyone would be destitute, how would you feel about that.

LadyVictoriaSponge · 04/08/2023 10:05

If the government said tomorrow, you can no longer drive your car, have only one child, eat only vegetables, only use electricity for two hours a day. Ban imports from high emmittors, so no tech, and no electricity to run it anyway. All your jobs would collapse, everyone would be destitute, how would you feel about that.

Looking forward to all the responses to this, or will it be tumbleweed……….

MrsSkylerWhite · 04/08/2023 10:09

Yusay

Slow handclap for the activists who just made it even harder to recruit good people into running the country. Highlighting the location and weak security of our Prime Minister’s family home?

Idiots.”

Absolutely this ^

Paul2023 · 04/08/2023 11:04

Correct me if I’m wrong but isn’t the reason Sunak has signed contracts for fossil fuels from the North Sea , to stop it being in imported to us, thus lowering carbon emissions? Using our own resources rather than paying other countries for it ?

I stand to be corrected on that

PatientZorro · 04/08/2023 11:09

There is no room for logic in this discussion Paul. Honestly 🙄

9765abc · 04/08/2023 11:42

Paul2023 · 04/08/2023 11:04

Correct me if I’m wrong but isn’t the reason Sunak has signed contracts for fossil fuels from the North Sea , to stop it being in imported to us, thus lowering carbon emissions? Using our own resources rather than paying other countries for it ?

I stand to be corrected on that

Yes basically and there are some Conservative seats in the NE of Scotland whose voters do not like the way the SNP and Labour Party want to further trash their industry.

jenbj · 04/08/2023 11:45

It's disgraceful to target his home. His family should not be a target because of his job - and that applies to all our politicians and public servants. It's his home.

Serious questions need to be asked of the police. These could have been terrorists.

Clavinova · 04/08/2023 11:50

AIBot
No it isn’t. It’s a conflict of interest.

It's a click-bait headline - there's no direct conflict of interest. Underneath where they ask you for donations to fund more of their 'investigative reporting' they cover themselves by saying this;

Those who donated to Sunak are not accused of wrongdoing and it is not suggested that his premiership will be beholden to fossil fuel interests.

But hey - let's 'give his kids nightmares'.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 04/08/2023 11:52

AIBot · Yesterday 20:42
if it gives his kids nightmares perhaps he will actually listen.

And on a parenting site, too 🤔

jenbj · 04/08/2023 11:53

AIBot · 03/08/2023 20:42

Have you seen the news that Sunak’s family firm signed a billion-dollar deal with BP before PM opened new North Sea licences

So….Sunak is a corrupt piece of shit. I’m pleased that his home was targeted, and if it gives his kids nightmares perhaps he will actually listen.

You should be ashamed of your comment about innocent children.

Dbank · 04/08/2023 12:08

Completely disagree.

Just because your opinion differs from that of a democratically elected government, doesn't give you the right to break the law.

It's not democracy, it's is mob rule, and a very dangerous road to go down.

Use the tools of the democratic process, for example look at the success that the clean rivers campaigners are having, and they did it legally by raising a private members bill and getting support and exposure.

morelippy · 04/08/2023 12:11

AIBot · 03/08/2023 20:42

Have you seen the news that Sunak’s family firm signed a billion-dollar deal with BP before PM opened new North Sea licences

So….Sunak is a corrupt piece of shit. I’m pleased that his home was targeted, and if it gives his kids nightmares perhaps he will actually listen.

And you question Sunak's morals a principles ?

FrankieStein403 · 04/08/2023 14:35

>I stand to be corrected on that

It is impossible for the UK to be self sufficient in oil.

There are many "types" of oil - think of it as how 'thick' it is.
Brent crude, North Sea oil, is a light oil - good for high end uses, refining for aviation fuel etc. Not useful for chemicals, roads - we have to import the thick stuff for that.

There are already sufficient reserves in North Sea fields to cover projected fuel uses through the period where we need to reduce it's use.

Development of rosebank will be a decade long - ie not fully onstream until a year before the main reduction targets of 2035.

There is no provable benefit, except to the oil corps short term share prices, of permitting rosebank to go ahead.