Ukrainian surrogacy in Ireland

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This lady has used the help of a Ukrainian surrogate to grow her family, and is also sharing her journey on social media. Sharing to wish them luck on their return journey home ☘️

I believe this is also a journey Rosanna Davison (former miss world?) has undertaken although not in current circumstances.

https://m.independent.ie/news/i-just-want-to-get-home-irish-couple-and-their-newborn-son-shelter-from-bombs-in-ukraine/a1217011592.html

I honestly thought you were a troll and not a genuine poster..

I can't believe you lack the awareness to understand why we would all find this awful. It's quite obviously exploitation- literally buying the BABY of someone who does not have many options in a very vulnerable situation. This couple are basically benefitting from women being trapped in a war zone.

This makes me really uncomfortable. The way it's been sold as a "journey" isn't right.

So it was her own egg? Or is that what she told you? Do you really believe that 🙄

There was a gay Irish couple that did this recently too, they also sold their story to media… is there anything people will not keep private anymore!

Babies born from donor egg or sperm now have the right to know who the donors are.

There is a reason many laws have changed over the years. It is because it is recognised that how a baby is created can impact them for life.

In the past it was all about the adoptive parents not the baby or birth mother. Quite rightly things have changed. It should be the same in respect of surrogacy. Babies are not commodities and neither are women’s wombs

"I’m quite a determined person,” she adds with a laugh. “Even a war wasn’t going to stop me from having a second baby.”

There aren't words. No, actually there is one. Gobshite.

Even if you’re not against surrogacy in general, this situation must give you pause.

This is exploitation, I hesitate to use the word slavery as the poor mother presumably go paid and had theoretical choice, but it is pretty close to the line. It is certainly akin to prostitution and comodification of women and children. Shocking.

How sickening even without the social media angle.

They should have contented themselves with the wonderful child they already had, like all of us who are one and done, not by choice.

You seem a little confused about what Troll Hunting is.
Nobody has accused you of being a Troll, the majority of people just don’t agree with you

Don't be disingenuous, you're trying to get followers for them. I suspect you run their socials and are targeted on follower numbers. Piece of nonsense. But then, what do you expect from people traffickers?

The clue is in “gestational surrogacy” @Throwncrumbs

Not being funny but what sort of sick person sees a woman in a war torn country and think, ‘yep. She’ll provide a baby for me.’ And then the fact that they’ve come to the media to sell their story is just disgusting.

Is it not enough that the birth mother had two miscarriages. Now she’s given birth and the baby will just be whisked away whilst she stays in Ukraine where bombs are going off. And now the story is in the media as if this family are the victims? Exploitation at it’s finest

I'm not against surrogacy in all circumstances (although IMO there are very few acceptable situations) but this is just appalling, and why all the publicity. This couple should be hanging their heads in shame.

Nobody is criticising people because they are infertile but being infertile does not give you carte blanche to exploit others. I suffered with infertility for years. I never considered buying a baby.

I wonder if it is the woman who has paid for the surrogate or the owner of the surrogacy company?

Sadly could have been killed by the Russians by that point. 😔

I suffered from infertility for years but didn't do this. This is seriously funked up.

Im not in charge of the couple’s social media btw.

I do take the points being made that some comments from the article from the commissioning parents can be construed as being in quite bad taste.

I appreciate also that doing this in wartime may not be the best look.

Then do it in person. Why make a thread here to do it?

@JaneJeffer yes point taken I thought it was an extraordinary story but obviously not for the right reasons !

For posters who don't have a problem with this, how do you think the child will feel when told the story of their birth? Not sure I would see my parents in a very good light

I appreciate also that doing this in wartime may not be the best look.

Renting the womb of a women living in a war zone while bombs are dropping and her country is going to utter shit doesn't exactly scream full, enthusiastic, free consent, does it? It does scream total and complete desperation though.

And since it's all documented so effectively in the press, that poor child will know all about it. I can't imagine the guilt, unless she grows up selfish and self-serving. Apples falling from trees and all that.

I’d imagine former Miss World Rosanna Davison would have a fairly strong PR team behind her quashing negative stories and online comments about many aspects of her (and her husband’s) life.