Boris and his fines part 4

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Previous thread. More to come on the subject matter

www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/4536641-boris-has-been-fined-part-3?reply=117100091

I wonder if Ed Milliband is able to do such a good job because he is not the leader, and so doesn't have all the burdens that brings

Quite likely. I just think he's good at the despatch box. There are a number of Labour politicians who are good orators.
Ed Milliband, Yvette Cooper, David Lammy etc. And I have a soft spot for Thangam Debbonaire, Shadow Leader of the HoC, I met her once, before she took on this position, she was lovely.

@saliwales2022 Can you help me understand what you are saying. You think that everyone in the Labour party, everyone, not some, but everyone, thinks that it is possible for someone to change from XX to XY or from XY to XX?

Could you perhaps supply me with one example of a member of the Labour party saying this?

"Peter Bone: ‘it was only when we got a PM prepared to lie that we got Brexit done’"

https://twitter.com/johnjcrace/status/1526545054575247361?s=21&t=07SHuTlMddJEq4U3zNN_Fg

What the hell??? Anyone know if this quote is correct?

Annilese Dodds, Angela Rayner and most importantly Keir Starmer. There are probably others! I think the Lib Dems think the same. And if course the Green party. I am so tired of it all. There is no-one to vote for!

You might want to check out his profile and other tweets

I forgot Yvette Cooper. I have a shocking memory!

Ah I found the Bone clip. He was saying May took too long trying to make an actual workable agreement, Johnson was better because he didn't focus on the deal.

Is that basically confirming that Johnson signed the agreement with great dishonesty, thinking that he would renege on it if he needed to?

Tweet with Peter Bone clip - but yes that's the jist I'm getting from it Claudine.

https://twitter.com/sturdyalex/status/1526596129017810946?s=21&t=07SHuTlMddJEq4U3zNN_Fg

Is there any evidence to support this claim? Wes Streeting doesn’t, I doubt he’s alone.

Of course there is. David Lammy has no idea what a cervix or a woman is! Didn't Starmer say that only a woman has a cervix should NEVER be said!

David Lammy was very irritating with the dinosaur quote

Giving away women’s rights is easy if you’re a man

admittedly some women are keen too

But Johnson knows what a woman is.

Anyone seen Sue Gray?

You said ALL. That’s patently untrue.

Don’t trans men have cervixes? Freddy McConnell certainly has.

because the whole of the Labour party think that people can change sex

I doubt you’re right on that. How on Earth would you know?

It's not my job to persuade to vote for any party.

But maybe when mulling it over you might factor in the 7.5 million living in relative poverty, the 3.34 women carers (many of whom will be living in relative poverty) and 14.6 disabled men & women (35% of disabled women earn less than the living wage), the terrible underfunding of legal services (which impacts the dreadful low rates of rape prosecutions), the fact that women will be disproportionately impacted by the cost of living crisis. None of it is getting better.

Please can we keep the trans debate on the FWR boards?

Not are you a conservative voter?

I remember someone saying they were in response to Labour supporters post

BREAKING - Unnamed Tory MP arrested on charges of sexual assault and rape.

Me? No I'm not.

The disabled are going to be far and away the biggest losers in the cost of living crisis. The word disabled or allied ideas has been used EIGHT times in 8 years in parliament. Once as a joke.

The rights of disabled people is a huge issue.

It would be nice, wouldn’t it? Hard when posters pop in specifically to raise it though.

Probably could have been persuaded once upon a time. But not whilst this shower are anywhere near the Cabinet.

Sky News

Conservative MP arrested over rape and sexual assault allegations spanning seven-year period.

Met said a man in 50s arrested in suspicion of indecent assault, sexual assault, rape, abuse of position of trust & misconduct in public office

Life costs you £538 MORE a month if you are disabled. Imagine this.

4.5 million children live in poverty. 43% of these live in a household where someone is disabled.

These are huge issues.

<rummages about for soapbox>