Boris and his fines part 4

[Roussette]

Previous thread. More to come on the subject matter

www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/4536641-boris-has-been-fined-part-3?reply=117100091

Hang on, if this was one of the parties that he did not attend, does that mean there were parties that he did attend?

I'm sure @Clavinova has been telling us for months that there weren't any parties for him to attend.

Exactly

That will be kept quiet

Surely the fact that they were spending their weekends there at all was against the rules Or were people allowed to travel to their second homes? And if they were, why did that Scottish politician resign for doing it?

Is it what Cummings is sitting on?

Number 11 flat and Chequers are all one household. Apparently.

An answer to the '30 people for a curry' nonsense, one year after cakegate (and more to follow of course)

twitter.com/SamJRushworth/status/1522998084455776256

Curry for 30 people is like 800 seats lost, expectation management

And lo Starmer divided food for 15 people amongst 30. 🙄

Thanks for the new thread @Roussette

Personally I wouldn’t be sorry if Starmer resigned. I’d like him to hold off until either Balls or Burnham could be elected in Wakefield then there would be a credible candidate for Labour leader. Either would work for me.

Imagine trying to paint it as smere campain whilst quoting a labour party member...

www.joe.co.uk/news/labour-furious-terrible-banter-curry-night-causing-police-investigation-334064

This is a case of live by the sword and die by it, a 'year after' is just trying to shift the goalposts considering Labour where on board for all of the lock downs and some of the anti tory crowd where after strickter lockdowns, some people can't elevate themselves above the fottball team supporter dynamic and realise they have been played as well.

There are a lot of people who are coping, we are on thread 3 while not grasping the situation at large and still trying to play good team style politics.

It's why MN is known on the wider net as not being a place to talk politics

Thanks for new thread

@Justanotherlurker, you do realise the law around gatherings changed quite substantially over the 2020/2021 period? Therefore the timing of the alleged get-togethers is highly significant and not simply a matter of shifting goalposts?

Is it possible that rather than order a choice of dishes and share, they ordered a small amount each?

That would make it look as though they were ordering for more people and be more expensive but it would have worked for social distancing.

It would also have been more logical that moving to a restaurant where there were other people.

I'll await the police report before I judge on this.

It's why MN is known on the wider net as not being a place to talk politics

Where? Twitter? There’s considerably more intelligence on these threads than there is there - or in Parliament for that matter.

Starmer is lucky this resurfaced after the local elections, only just but votes were ended.

I think we'll just have to wait for the police report. The Times reporting it will take a month.

Regardless of this, I still think for various reasons Boris Johnson will not be facing a vote of no confidence from his party. The Queen attending (or not) the State Opening of Parliament this week, then the Platinum Jubilee celebrations in four weeks, all will reduce stories about the serial liar Prime Minister.

Only a month? How long have the Johnson parties been under investigation? Personally I would like to see him cleared and then the Mail Editor charged with wasting Police time. But I don't suppose either of those will happen.

that month would have impacted elections if it had been earlier

There’ll be some annoyed they voted based on this issue

I guess the Daily Mail should have acted faster.

Durham Police followed purdah similar to the Met.

Papers got a bit distracted by Angela Rayner's legs

And it was the Met who set the precedent of not releasing information until after the elections.

I wonder whether people voted on Johnson vs Starmer parties? Don't forget the Mail was headlining it for a whole week before the elections - Day 7 of beergate etc. Those who did vote on the party issue are more likely to have voted because they were stopped from going to a funeral of a close relative, or weren't allowed to hug an aging parent with dementia who has now died, or had to postpone their wedding a number of times. I could go on with the examples.

Johnson's parties were held in 2020 before the vaccine was invented, never mind the rollout that he boasts about. Johnson himself was supposedly at death's door with Covid. Yet somehow wasn't scared stiff of seeing a whole crowd of people putting themselves at risk,

Of course it was the police due to elections but he is still lucky and people will be feeling duped

the biggest drop has been due to partygate due to extensive coverage

And remind us, how long have we've been waiting for the full Sue Gray report?

482 seats lost. I doubt very much whether that was due to Johnson's parties. Sinn Fein become the biggest party in NI. That one certainly will have b*gger all to do with how much Johnson thought that work and a party were one and the same thing.

Cost of living issues and local issues like the council not fixing potholes are more likely to have informed most votes.