Ukraine Invasion: Part 19

[MagicFox]

Welcome friends, still going

Thank you for new thread!

Thank you for the new thread.

@PaperTyger re your last post : I'll take any hope I can get, thank you. I'll buy the book you recommended

Thread 19 - not sure where I thought we’d be by now.

I had the same thought @Igotjelly

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I'm struggling with the horror too and can understand @Igotjelly thinking we should intervene.

Thanks for the new thread.

This book is amazing.
Poor Man forced to be his personal doctor! Imagine the pressure

Thanks MagicFox

Nien Cheng, life And death in Shanghai.

Poor poor woman.

Thanks for the recommendations

Alexandra, I know re my last post.
I'm an arm chair observer I'm just saying we... shouldn't wait and be reactive all the time...we should flood the whole place now....get boot's in under what ever circumstances... Which is what's he does.

We are too reactive...we have a window...be proactive and get in

Dear God I hope those who can get out of Donbas and Luhansk have the sense to go.

Poor lady but actually Also incredibly brave, inspirational strong woman Also

Signing in. Thanking all contributors

Given the fact that arms are being announced after they have arrived, I would be very surprised if stuff is not happening under the radar. Donbas was pointed out as the next logical place before the Russians withdrew from Kyiv and there's a lot of experienced fighters already in place.

I am currently watching the Hunger Games. The parallels are depressing.

1984 is the book that comes to mind. Russia is actually living at least half of that. The propaganda is disorientating to read.

Lisjbear it's all in that very clearly but aforementioned books are real life mind bending

@PaperTyger re a point you made about the Russian battalion not looking ethnically Russian - there are a lot of Russian areas to the east and south east where native Russians look East Asian. When you think about how large Russia is and how many countries it borders it’s interesting to see how their physical appearance is so close to those of their neighbours, suggesting looser borders in the past etc

Thanks for the new thread and as always to all of you for contributing. I can’t quite compute what I’m reading about what is happening, especially the latest horror in Mariupol. What is the name of the book about what the women in Berlin went through at the hands of the Red Army? I thought Si’s taken a screenshot shot but can’t find it. I don’t know if it makes it any better knowing that the Russian army is consistent in its depravity - and yes I known this is dregs of human nature not exclusive to Russian soldiers. I do remember the gut-churning horror of what went on in the Balkans and the memory of one particular report has haunted me ever since. Part of me wanted to not believe what I read but hearing about what is happening now, I know it was real. The awful thing is my teenage kids seem completely uninterested in what’s going on in Ukraine ….. ☹️

Thanks for the new thread and to all the posters for such informed posts

I also wonder if these soldiers are ‘fuelled’ by more than alcohol to behave so utterly barbarically.

@cloudberry A Woman in Berlin.

@Ijsbear thank you