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Sexism/Racism/other issues in the Green party England & Wales - Discussion Thread 4

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fromorbit · 06/10/2026 06:23

RedToothBrush · Yesterday 20:39

We are going to need at least another 40 pages about this shit show of an anti-Semitic woman hating party...

We started these threads back in May 2025. It keeps getting worse.

You know when you watch a drama and it starts by being comic, then gets darker and darker. The threads started with the rise of Zack Polanski aka Hypno Boobs, Water Titty, ZPy before he became leader watching as he got elected in September 2, 2025.

The Hypnoboobs scandal was of course kind of funny, but what was very revealing was his attempt to paint it as a plot by the media against him. It was gradually revealed he used the drama to his advantage to advertise his business and he did claim to have weird powers over boobs from BBC footage.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn9enygvezeo

It wasn't just he lied. humans and especially politicians do that. It is rather he refused to take responsibility, and ducked out. He has kept doing it again and again. Exaggerations and lies over claiming support from charities, ducking out of paying taxes, talking over women saying they don't deserve sports or any spaces, about why he swapped from Lib Dem to being Green . It is all very similar to the way many behave particularly blokes from other political parties.

Now the crazy anti Semitism within the party has been growing and ZP has failed to stop it. He did try to block it behind the scenes, but was very reluctant to face it head on. This cumulated in the Greens Conference 2006, when ZP failed to fight against the racist anti-Zionist motion in person. Instead he went to campaign in London for the byelection. Meanwhile guess what the fight back was lead mostly by 4 of the 5 Green MPs, mostly women.

Looking back at the last thread the horror is everything we predicted has come to pass. This is what headed the last thread in May 2006.
Now in the last week or so after a longstanding spate of anti-Semitic rhetoric from some Greens during the election campaign and ZP downplaying it. We have synagogues, schools, ambulances attacked, two Jewish people dead and ZP berating unarmed police for risking their lives in fighting a violent killer who was still armed with a knife things have come to a crisis point.
The Greens are becoming ever more sinister with dozens of candidates sounding like they are seventies NF supporters with comments about uppity women and Jewish power.

The October Conference 2026 was as dark as predicted. The racism was crazy. They banned the words mum and dad. Apparently women have to dress modestly to win Muslim votes. Not only was Green's Women's Declaration banned, but some Greens have now decided that women's biology is so icky they protest talks about it.
https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16181937/Trans-Green-women-event-female-health.html

Besides ZPy, we also have documented Mothin Ali as deputy Leader who clearly doesn't believe in trans thinking, but cleverly sidesteps round talking about it. He has always had a issues with encouraging racist violence and one look at his wife shows what he thinks about women. He is also a landlord in a party which is supposedly anti landlord. Ali has been very loud talking about how bad racism is, but also loves being racist.

The other deputy leader Rachel Millward represents the posh rich faction of the Greens who manages to sounded like Reform when opposing Asylum Seekers in her area, but at the same time saying we are too harsh on immigrants in general. Obviously she also doesn't believe women are a thing. She also is a landlord as well, or rather her partner is. Yet she is the least crazy when violence and racism is concerned compared to ZP, and Mothin.

All of these people are up for re-election in 2027. The drama will be epic.

The media is paying increasing attention to what Mumsnet have been noting for ages. Mumsnet was there during the Challenor scandal which showed how awful the Greens anti-women rhetoric could be.

The Greens control Bristol where they face legal action from women for trying to silence them
https://www.localgovernmentlawyer.co.uk/governance/396-governance-news/99477-gender-critical-campaigners-launch-judicial-review-proceedings-over-council-chamber-ban

Their sexist nonsense has also raised protests in Hackney under the control of Zoe Garbbett with effigies of Andy Burnham being burned.
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5527195-zoe-garbett-green-mayor-for-hackney?page=1

Women being silenced in Green controlled Haringey
https://www.gbnews.com/news/trans-row-activists-heckle-abuse-labour-councillor

The fight back from Green Women's Declaration, https://www.greenwomensdeclaration.uk/ continues and they are now taking the Greens to court for banning them from the conference twice for being women. The court cases against GPEW from Emma Bateman and Shahrar Ali are developing, both getting through legal delaying tactics as they move to trial. Gardening is needed. These cases if successful could be dramatic in their impact.

First thread - where you can follow the rise of ZP and lots of other scandal May 2025
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5328986-greens-internal-drama-warms-up

Second Thread:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5456759-sexismother-issues-in-the-green-party-england-wales-discussion-thread-2?

Third thread - the run up to the Greens Conference in October 2026
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5524462-sexismother-issues-in-the-green-party-england-wales-discussion-thread-3

Note the Scottish Greens which are a separate party to the Green Party England/Wales have their own thread for all their sexist/racist drama. They split off because GPEW didn't hate biology and women/gays enough at the time.
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5313420-scottish-greens-being-sexist-again?page=1

Zack Polanski, in white open necked shirt and dark jacket, addresses a Green Party rally, with microphone in hand

Zack Polanski stood by breast enlargment hypnosis claim

A newly unearthed interview from 2013 casts doubt on the Green Party leader's claim to have apologised.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn9enygvezeo

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MarcTheGenderSkeptic · 11/10/2026 15:01

ArabellaScott · 11/10/2026 14:59

Scottish Green Party MSP Ariane Burgess causes uproar by 'liking' a social media post purportedly an Israeli flag covered in blood with a swastika on it.

Herald and Scotsman reporting.

Well, they seem to support all the violent TRA imagery against JKR, so I'm glad they're at least consistent.

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 11/10/2026 15:16

They're quick to jump all over anyone they perceive to be 'far right' when they do something 'wrong', so it's only right we should hold them to the same standard they've set for others.

MarcTheGenderSkeptic · 11/10/2026 15:18

TheywontletmehavethenameIwant · 11/10/2026 15:16

They're quick to jump all over anyone they perceive to be 'far right' when they do something 'wrong', so it's only right we should hold them to the same standard they've set for others.

Where Horseshoe Theory means the Left and Right meet so seamlessly, the horseshoe becomes a flying ring.

fromorbit · 11/10/2026 18:14

Looks like the battle over the Greens future is gathering steam. This plan is clearly aimed at crushing the entryists in so many words.

Zack Polanski signals Green party overhaul after row over Zionism vote
Polanski says the party’s rapid growth means its democratic structures need to change, including giving leaders more responsibility for setting its political direction.

“Our party democracy must now evolve to meet that – creating wider engagement for members, giving leaders more responsibility to set the party’s strategic direction, and making our processes as robust and accessible as possible,” he writes.

His intervention marks the clearest indication yet that he believes the party’s internal structures need reform, after senior Greens raised concerns that its system of policymaking gives disproportionate influence to a small minority of members.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/oct/11/zack-polanski-signals-green-party-overhaul-after-row-over-zionism-vote

Zack Polanski signals Green party overhaul after row over Zionism vote

Rapid growth means structures need to change and give leaders greater control, Polanski says in Guardian article

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/oct/11/zack-polanski-signals-green-party-overhaul-after-row-over-zionism-vote

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ArabellaScott · 11/10/2026 19:17

For once I agree with him. Convenient he gets to shape the party rules to suit himself, though.

Zack and current factions have quite happily and ruthlessly used these existing problematic structures to suspend and exclude veteran Greens. Its only now that the entryists of the past ten years face ruin from more recent entryists they see the problems.

ArabellaScott · 11/10/2026 19:18

I suppose its another leopard/face confluence.

MarcTheGenderSkeptic · 11/10/2026 19:49

ArabellaScott · 11/10/2026 19:18

I suppose its another leopard/face confluence.

The man is gruesome, his grift to a prominent place in UK politics will oblige him to hang on at all costs.
I look forwards to the day the Gaza/Our Party/Momentum entryists seal his fate, leaving his little cadre of Zppys to mope and wail and gnash their teeth as their (beta) man is cast aside.

highame · 11/10/2026 20:00

They can create a nice new party the mygmpt's, a truly diverse group.

Chersfrozenface · 11/10/2026 20:12

highame · 11/10/2026 20:00

They can create a nice new party the mygmpt's, a truly diverse group.

Is that pronounced My Gimps?

highame · 11/10/2026 20:18

We are very democratic and my gimps could be the choice of some🤣

MarcTheGenderSkeptic · 11/10/2026 20:37

That's quite scathing.

DrBlackbird · 11/10/2026 21:56

Shortshriftandlethal · 11/10/2026 12:48

I note Caroline Lucas was on Radio 4's 'Any Questions' yesterday. She's obviously trying to re-emphasise her socialist style economic thinking ( re-distribution, taxing wealth etc) in order to steady the sinking ship, I presume.

I listened to her and thought oh it’s all sweeping generalities based on economic sound bites but absolutely nothing real or tangible. All very university student level argumentation.

Bit poor given the years she spent as a MP you’d think she’d have a stronger appreciation of the complexities in running a government.

Her genuine dedication is laudable but we need hard workable policies.

ThreeDeafMice · 11/10/2026 22:52

Lalgarh · 11/10/2026 20:36

Rearranging deckchairs, yada yada yada.

fromorbit · Yesterday 05:54

Insiders suggest that thousands of members have quit the party over the past week in protest at the motion. One local party has seen a two-point drop in membership since last Sunday, with similar falls reported in other areas. If this were replicated across the country, it would mean 4,400 people had resigned.

Interesting will have an impact if this turns out to be a real trend.

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Lalgarh · Yesterday 08:07

Though more likely to leave the Gaza faction in charge

Imdunfer · Yesterday 08:30

fromorbit · Yesterday 05:54

Insiders suggest that thousands of members have quit the party over the past week in protest at the motion. One local party has seen a two-point drop in membership since last Sunday, with similar falls reported in other areas. If this were replicated across the country, it would mean 4,400 people had resigned.

Interesting will have an impact if this turns out to be a real trend.

He's waking up!

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/oct/11/zack-polanski-signals-green-party-overhaul-after-row-over-zionism-vote

ArabellaScott · Yesterday 09:05

fromorbit · Yesterday 05:54

Insiders suggest that thousands of members have quit the party over the past week in protest at the motion. One local party has seen a two-point drop in membership since last Sunday, with similar falls reported in other areas. If this were replicated across the country, it would mean 4,400 people had resigned.

Interesting will have an impact if this turns out to be a real trend.

But I'd be interested to see how many join.

fromorbit · Yesterday 11:29

Lalgarh · Yesterday 08:07

Though more likely to leave the Gaza faction in charge

Indeed.

Going to see where the numbers lie over the next year. Anyway sounds like ZP and other leaders are going to try to get things back under control.

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nicepotoftea · Yesterday 12:43

DrBlackbird · 11/10/2026 21:56

I listened to her and thought oh it’s all sweeping generalities based on economic sound bites but absolutely nothing real or tangible. All very university student level argumentation.

Bit poor given the years she spent as a MP you’d think she’d have a stronger appreciation of the complexities in running a government.

Her genuine dedication is laudable but we need hard workable policies.

Her genuine dedication is laudable but we need hard workable policies.

I get the impression that other Green Parties in Europe are a bit more practical?

Obviously some UK Green Party members are just straightforward anti-semites, but I think a huge proportion of them just live in a dream world where 'just be nice' is a solution to conflict in the Middle East.

ArabellaScott · Yesterday 15:36

nicepotoftea · Yesterday 12:43

Her genuine dedication is laudable but we need hard workable policies.

I get the impression that other Green Parties in Europe are a bit more practical?

Obviously some UK Green Party members are just straightforward anti-semites, but I think a huge proportion of them just live in a dream world where 'just be nice' is a solution to conflict in the Middle East.

No shit! See also Zack's answers about how he'd deal with Russia by having a nice chat with Putin, while also scrapping nuclear weapons.

ThreeDeafMice · Yesterday 15:53

ArabellaScott · Yesterday 15:36

No shit! See also Zack's answers about how he'd deal with Russia by having a nice chat with Putin, while also scrapping nuclear weapons.

Vladimir Putin would eat ZP alive, before breakfast, and without blinking. Can you imagine!?

inkymoose · Yesterday 16:10

Is he though?

He's not stupid (although the evidence for that is a little thin) and he's a survivor, although hasn't reached the mendacious heights of Farage yet.

I don't think he was asleep. I think he's changing his tactics to hang onto the leadership.

inkymoose · Yesterday 16:14

ThreeDeafMice · Yesterday 15:53

Vladimir Putin would eat ZP alive, before breakfast, and without blinking. Can you imagine!?

gulp

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