Sexism/Racism/other issues in the Green party England & Wales - Discussion Thread 4

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RedToothBrush · Yesterday 20:39

We are going to need at least another 40 pages about this shit show of an anti-Semitic woman hating party...

We started these threads back in May 2025. It keeps getting worse.

You know when you watch a drama and it starts by being comic, then gets darker and darker. The threads started with the rise of Zack Polanski aka Hypno Boobs, Water Titty, ZPy before he became leader watching as he got elected in September 2, 2025.

The Hypnoboobs scandal was of course kind of funny, but what was very revealing was his attempt to paint it as a plot by the media against him. It was gradually revealed he used the drama to his advantage to advertise his business and he did claim to have weird powers over boobs from BBC footage.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn9enygvezeo

It wasn't just he lied. humans and especially politicians do that. It is rather he refused to take responsibility, and ducked out. He has kept doing it again and again. Exaggerations and lies over claiming support from charities, ducking out of paying taxes, talking over women saying they don't deserve sports or any spaces, about why he swapped from Lib Dem to being Green . It is all very similar to the way many behave particularly blokes from other political parties.

Now the crazy anti Semitism within the party has been growing and ZP has failed to stop it. He did try to block it behind the scenes, but was very reluctant to face it head on. This cumulated in the Greens Conference 2006, when ZP failed to fight against the racist anti-Zionist motion in person. Instead he went to campaign in London for the byelection. Meanwhile guess what the fight back was lead mostly by 4 of the 5 Green MPs, mostly women.

Looking back at the last thread the horror is everything we predicted has come to pass. This is what headed the last thread in May 2006.
Now in the last week or so after a longstanding spate of anti-Semitic rhetoric from some Greens during the election campaign and ZP downplaying it. We have synagogues, schools, ambulances attacked, two Jewish people dead and ZP berating unarmed police for risking their lives in fighting a violent killer who was still armed with a knife things have come to a crisis point.
The Greens are becoming ever more sinister with dozens of candidates sounding like they are seventies NF supporters with comments about uppity women and Jewish power.

The October Conference 2026 was as dark as predicted. The racism was crazy. They banned the words mum and dad. Apparently women have to dress modestly to win Muslim votes. Not only was Green's Women's Declaration banned, but some Greens have now decided that women's biology is so icky they protest talks about it.
https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-16181937/Trans-Green-women-event-female-health.html

Besides ZPy, we also have documented Mothin Ali as deputy Leader who clearly doesn't believe in trans thinking, but cleverly sidesteps round talking about it. He has always had a issues with encouraging racist violence and one look at his wife shows what he thinks about women. He is also a landlord in a party which is supposedly anti landlord. Ali has been very loud talking about how bad racism is, but also loves being racist.

The other deputy leader Rachel Millward represents the posh rich faction of the Greens who manages to sounded like Reform when opposing Asylum Seekers in her area, but at the same time saying we are too harsh on immigrants in general. Obviously she also doesn't believe women are a thing. She also is a landlord as well, or rather her partner is. Yet she is the least crazy when violence and racism is concerned compared to ZP, and Mothin.

All of these people are up for re-election in 2027. The drama will be epic.

The media is paying increasing attention to what Mumsnet have been noting for ages. Mumsnet was there during the Challenor scandal which showed how awful the Greens anti-women rhetoric could be.

The Greens control Bristol where they face legal action from women for trying to silence them
https://www.localgovernmentlawyer.co.uk/governance/396-governance-news/99477-gender-critical-campaigners-launch-judicial-review-proceedings-over-council-chamber-ban

Their sexist nonsense has also raised protests in Hackney under the control of Zoe Garbbett with effigies of Andy Burnham being burned.
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5527195-zoe-garbett-green-mayor-for-hackney?page=1

Women being silenced in Green controlled Haringey
https://www.gbnews.com/news/trans-row-activists-heckle-abuse-labour-councillor

The fight back from Green Women's Declaration, https://www.greenwomensdeclaration.uk/ continues and they are now taking the Greens to court for banning them from the conference twice for being women. The court cases against GPEW from Emma Bateman and Shahrar Ali are developing, both getting through legal delaying tactics as they move to trial. Gardening is needed. These cases if successful could be dramatic in their impact.

First thread - where you can follow the rise of ZP and lots of other scandal May 2025
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5328986-greens-internal-drama-warms-up

Second Thread:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5456759-sexismother-issues-in-the-green-party-england-wales-discussion-thread-2?

Third thread - the run up to the Greens Conference in October 2026
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5524462-sexismother-issues-in-the-green-party-england-wales-discussion-thread-3

Note the Scottish Greens which are a separate party to the Green Party England/Wales have their own thread for all their sexist/racist drama. They split off because GPEW didn't hate biology and women/gays enough at the time.
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5313420-scottish-greens-being-sexist-again?page=1

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I was amused that the cabinet member for sanctuary and healing apparently likes to stir up trouble!

Comments below this post are mad.
https://x.com/ZackPolanski/status/2108244774503207262

Some I don't think I can post on MN.

https://www.disabilitynewsservice.com/greens-sideline-disabled-people-at-annual-conference/

Everyone getting the boot in at the single issue politics in dominating the Green Party.

Thanks @RedToothBrush that article finally links to the full list of motions

https://autumnconf2026.greenparty.org.uk/std/page/files/Green_Party_Autumn_Conference_2026_-_Final_Agenda_v4.2.pdf

Alongside Zionism is racism is Stop destroying video games

Mothin is still under investigation for embezzlement now a new allegation has surfaced.

Greens probe conduct complaint against Deputy Leader Mothin Ali

Left-wing party looks at claim Mothin Ali “snatched” phone from fellow member
https://www.politico.eu/article/greens-probe-conduct-complaint-against-deputy-leader-mothin-ali/

Isn’t that what Glinner did? I look forward to seeing MA supporters tying themselves up in knots defending it.

One of the motions, E06 Strengthen the Equality Act, is...just...this is an extract

Modify the protected characteristic 'Sex' to include intersex people as a legal category & recognise sex as bimodal rather than binary, introduce text to clarify that sex is a legal category which is a person's anatomy observed at birth only by default & can be changed; so where a persons lived gender differs from their birth sex their lived gender shall become their legal sex. The former change shall define 'intersex' in a way carefully worded to ensure that people who are intersex or have intersex traits are not regarded as a homogenous sex, and the sex binary currently used will not be replaced with a sex trinary. The latter change would be specifically worded to nullify the harm caused to people whose lived gender does not match their sex assigned at birth in the aftermath of the supreme court ruling For Women Scotland Ltd v the Scottish Ministers [2025], and the EHRC guidance of May 2026;

Utterly batshit. Is 'trinary' even a word?

Sex as bimodal?

Is 'trinary' even a word?

Yes, that's the problem here :)

Apparently it is a word. Means consisting of 3 parts.

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/trinary

So... Male, female and in between?

But does the Inbetween mean non binary people or transgender people

Ternary is the more common word, but the motion doesn't want to replace binary sex with trinary/ternary, begging the question how many new sexes they want to invent recognise.

I want to cry at the stupidity but I'm not if it's with rage or laughter.

GB News paraphrasing the Telegraph who have dug up the quote I mentioned (thread 3) ZP made as a lib Dem in 2015 urging Jewish GLA voters to endorse Caroline Pidgeon as a vote for Israel

https://www.gbnews.com/politics/zack-polanski-israel-comments-resurface-zionism-racism

When standing for the Liberal Democrats - a party he ditched for the Greens in 2017 - he asked attendees at a hustings in Barnet and Camden for a favour.
Mr Polanski was standing for the Lib Dems in the London Assembly elections and asked members to vote for Caroline Pidgeon, the party leader, to give himself a better chance of election.
This is because one of the 11 additional members would be given seats based on each party's overall vote.

According to The Telegraph, Mr Polanski told attendees: "If you could vote – if you think I’ve said anything vaguely sensible tonight and you’d like to support a Jewish [London] Assembly candidate – if you could vote Caroline Pidgeon, Liberal Democrats, on the orange ballot paper, that would be a support for liberalism and a support for Israel and a support for Judaism."

Subsequently, Mr Polanski finished fourth in his region and was not elected as a London-wide member.

All those words, the whole contents of the English dictionary, to say nothing at all.

Dan Hodges
Polls closed. Current word is tactical voting against Polanski and relatively low turn out in Green wards. Labour confident.

Caveat this. Daily Mail. Hodges is very pro Jewish. Son of Glenda Jackson. But he probably has a good idea what's happened.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cm2d6x11l6pko

Fully in the knowledge that Hypnotits is a lame duck who is unlikely to have the power to do this. And that he's fighting to stay as leader now. Noting this has come out just as the polls closed (so they know how the by-election has gone)

Green Feminists UK AT greenfemsuk
Wow, @CarolineLucas on @BBCNewsnight choosing NOT to say @ZackPolanski should stay on as leader if he loses tonight - following his 'failure to lead' on the @TheGreenParty's Zionism is Racism policy.

Kevin Schofield AT KevinASchofield
It is true that the Greens got 10% last time.

But Andrew Feinstein got 19%, but this time didn't run and instead told his supporters to vote Green.

Labour 48.9%
Feinstein 18.9%
Greens 10.4%

For reference for later.

Nick Eardley BBC
Green splits out on show tonight… Former leader Caroline Lucas tells Newsnight it was a mistake for Zack Polanski not to take part in controversial Zionism debate

“He should have been there and he should have voted”

She declares policy dangerous and divisive

Lucas asked if Polanski should resign - doesn’t rule it out

"I want him to speak now about what's happened, I want him to show the leadership that was frankly missing on Sunday. I think the jury is out about whether he will do that - but I very much hope he will."

Ben Walker AT BNHWalker
From early tallies it's not looking close at all. Of about ten boards I'm seeing nine have Labour ahead, and almost by double?

At vote counts it's not uncommon for wards to have totally different voting profiles so I wouldn't read too much into this at this stage. But I sounds like there no shock Green win happening.

"Caroline, tell Zack to resign without saying the word resign".

If Greens get defeated by a decent amount the internal and external pressure will build.

The question will be if enough Greens want to fight back.

Interesting moment for ZPy he has had crisis points before, but this one is on a different scale and partially comes from his own inaction. If he had fought against the motion clearly he would be in a stringer position.

He is refusing interviews very uncharacteristic I think he is feeling guilty.

Maybe he will resign or decide not to stand again in the election next year.

Lambeth Council By-Election Result:

🌹 LAB: 46.7% (+10.3)
🌍 GRN: 37.1% (-2.0)
🔶 LDM: 8.6% (+1.5)
🌳 CON: 3.4% (-1.8)
➡️ RFM: 2.6% (-2.7)
✝️ CPA: 1.2% (New)
🚩 SPGB: 0.4% (New)

No Ind (-6.1) or TUSC (-0.8) as previous.

Labour HOLD.
Changes w/ 2026.