Why do some people view JK Rowling as transphobic?

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Where do people get the idea that JK Rowling is transphobic from? Where? I’m having this argument with an acquaintance who tells me she’s the most transphobic person on earth but cannot point to one single thing that she’s done or said that’s transphobic. Is this the widest held totally bullshit view ever?

What the fuck are you talking about?

She speaks the truth.
Same as Ricky Gervais but Ricky is male which means they let him off the hook.

JKR speaks the truth which we ALL know. It doesn’t matter how many hormones or surgeries someone has, or what clothes they wear, Men and women CANNOT change sex!!

Because we haven’t seen any proof of her “transphobia” other than “Because she says things we don’t like and she isn’t always kind”.

In fact, I think JKR herself offered £1m to anyone who proved she was transphobic. AFAIK the money is still unclaimed.

Thank you, genuinely and sincerely, for partaking in discussion.

Its very helpful to have it all laid out so we can see the TRA arguments.

I also wholeheartedly support this:

'...read her own words. Read, if you can stomach it'

We are, mate. We are. 😊

That’s not the OP.

Imane Khelif is a man. Not sure what that fact has to do with proving JKR is anything.

TRAs (and many others) have turned JKR into a hate figure. She stands as a cipher for the issue. At this point, it probably hardly matters what she says, has said about any of it. Her name is used as a flag and a weapon, a test and a declaration.

I dont like this tendency to use people, it seems reductive and dehumanising. At the same time, it can be a useful shorthand for showing whether someone is an extremist on 'gender' issues.

A lot of it has fuck all to do with her and what she says or does.

Maybe you, or some of the other JKR detractors on this thread, can be the first one to answer what is you disagree with her about, on the thread below?

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5402604-5402604-jkr-asking-similar-questions-to-what-i-have-been-asking-for-years-on-here?utm_campaign=thread&utm_medium=app_share

I have a well educated friend (male) tell me she's transphobic because they have vulnerable trans mates (female) and that's what they say. No further details.

I am yet to have it out with him. I will.

One of his friends is already in a wheelchair. She's in her late twenties at most. And very obviously female.

For example, Harry Potter merch has become a way to silently resist genderism. And for a lot of people, the majority, who just like the books/films/games, a shrug and ignore the furore.

TRAs tried to turn it into a witch burning exercise, and cancel Harry Potter. It's been quite amusing to see how effective that's been for them.

Witch doesnt burn, lads.

You’re forgetting that people who claim to be the opposite sex DO have equal rights to all other people. What they don’t have is the right to force others to see them as the opposite sex. But then again, nobody has the right to force people to see things from someone else’s point of view.
Regarding bodily autonomy, people can do whatever they want to their own bodies - tattoos, piercings, chemical changes, amputations etc, but none of those things should be state funded. We don’t pay for people with anorexia to have their stomachs stapled FFS!
Discrimination as a concept is threaded throughout civilised society - adults are discriminated against by not being allowed to take part in sports designated for children, people without disabilities are discriminated against receiving a Blue Badge for parking, children are discriminated against from not being allowed to have tattoos, but cigarettes or alcohol.
What TRAs want is to not be discriminated against in terms of a person of one sex being prevented from accessing things designated solely for the opposite sex. In reality, that is absolutely the type of discrimination that SHOULD be happening.

Have you not read her Twitter feed?

I'm genuinely interested. Show me something transphobic she's said. I've looked at her words, and I've found nothing. So when people say, "Just read her words and you'll see," what else can I say but, "You're wrong" ?

Someone out there did well at school in creative writing because that's some list of abject nonsense!

They didn't do so well in sciences.

No thanks.

I just wonder why the question has been asked when none of the pro JKR/GC posters aren't interested in ANY answers that don't agree with their world view?

Why ask? It's pointless.

Which tweet is transphobic?

Because none of them make any sense.

It’s either overblown opinion (“She’s made comments I don’t like” and somehow upsetting a trans person is “transphobia”) or just plain bullshit (cf claims about eugenics).

Come up with an “answer” that’s calmly substantiated and properly cited and we might listen.

Yep. Still can't see what that proves though.

It’s mainly pointless because being labeled “transphobic!” Is a laughably empty criticism. It’s like being called a blasphemer or having other fundamentalists tell you “you’re a sinner and you’re going to Hell!”

It’s been rendered meaningless, now it just means you’re a non-believer, not that you hate anyone.

People who scream “transphobe!” at others still seem to believe we care about being labeled as such. Nobody cares 🤣

Good job I wasn’t holding my breath.

The question was asked because everyone knows she is not transphobic. Even the people accusing her of it. OP wants to know why people would incorrectly call her transphobic. We are yet to see an actual reason for it other than lies and hyperbole which the majority posters on here will always respond to. Not shout down, just respond. So, please show actual proof of her transphobia instead of hoping the accusations will stick.

I do find KJK unpleasant. She isn't a feminist and is not actually in favour of women's liberation. However I haven't seen anything anything from JKR saying that she fully supports KJK's views - have you? Obviously there will be some overlap to their statements as both believe, quite rightly, that men can't be women and I expect they have shared a platform but has JKR actually endorsed KJK's more extreme views? I would be interested to see evidence of this claim if it exists.

Come up with an “answer” that’s calmly substantiated and properly cited and we might listen.

Hope you've got a good book or something fun to do whilst you wait for that to happen. It might take a while...

I’ve got War and Peace, the entirety of A Dance To The Music Of Time and - obviously - all seven Harry Potter novels.

Do you think that will fill the time sufficiently or shall I add the works of Shakespeare?

Yep especially given that everything is transphobic

wingsoverscotland.com/everything-is-transphobic/