Pissed you can't piss in peace

[IntolerantOfIntolerance]

Being trans right now is to be institutionally discriminated against. It’s having to worry about where and when you can go to the loo. Which is fucking outrageous. That this should happen under a so called Labour government is unforgivable.

Meanwhile we stagger on. If you want backup using a toilet I’m yours. I’ll walk into the ladies with you and tell people to back the fuck off if I have to. I will walk into the men’s too if I have to, so everyone is scandalised at me while you get a chance to sneak in and have a piss in peace. The situation is ludicrous - what I can do is a drop in the ocean, but drop I will.

Maybe I need to print myself a t-shirt that says fighting for the freedom to piss in peace. I don’t know. The world is on fire both metaphorically and literally, yet of all the things one could do a big chunk of people have chosen to gang up on a vulnerable minority. It’s like watching people dig their own graves.

Mixed sex facilities are safest for healthy men, in terms of toilets.

As a man of 62 (sigh...), I know <one thing> about my kind.
No man who needs to go will hesitate if the men's loo is available.
The very fact that specimens like the OT claim their male bodies <can't> use the male loo, and thus it's cruel and bigoted to make them use it, is really overcompensating to make a point.

Being a woman who can't use a mixed sex space is also to be institutionally discriminated against. Obviously. They not only have to worry about where and when they can go to the loo, many have had to stop going into them at all because of men.

If you're 'intolerant of intolerance' start there. Transactivists really have to start getting their heads around not everything is for them, and not everything is about them. Other people have rights too.

It’s having to worry about where and when you can go to the loo. Which is fucking outrageous

we can help you not worry - just use the correct loo - if born a boy then it is the loo for men, if born a girl, then use the loo for women - not complicated and I am sure you will be able to find an adult to help you if you are not certain…

as a 100% bloke, I can assure you (I assume you are one of those blokes pretending to be a woman?) that I have always been able to find a chaps’ loos wherever I go… and amazingly no one has ever paid any attention inside - wear whatever you like, come in, pee, wash hands, leave - it is a fairly standard routine for most folks who don’t care how other men present… despite all the claims, there is no evidence of any related issues, so you don't have to worry, just continue to use the loos you should always have been using…

you have been using the correct loos haven’t you?! this is nothing new, it has been clear law since 2010, and in fact for decades before…

so, no worries - blokes in the gents and women to the ladies

Please do print yourself that “fighting for the freedom to piss in peace” t shirt op. Everyone else will piss themselves laughing.

Surely a reason to say please do. The world needs a smile and a laugh these days

I'm pissed off there aren't enough toilets for women. The older I get the more it pisses me off. I'm pissed off that I have to spend the whole interval at the theatre queuing for the loo when the men swan in and out and have enough time for a G&T.

Edited to add: I'm pissed off that us women all stand stoically in these queues, probably all pissed off but powerless to do anything about it.

Why do people want to change their gender? Babies born with both genders or their gender is not apparent have a gender assigned during an operation when very young. If that gender is deemed inappropriate at puberty then obviously there has to be some help.

Gender is assigned in your DNA. That is IT. You live with that because that is who you REALLY are. Your sexual preferences are precisely that "a preference".

A problem made worse if the men decide it’s their right to swan into the ladies also , meaning there is no ladies just two sets of gents loos

You mean sex. SEX. It's not a dirty word.

For equality, it has been worked out that if you have the same number of women and men, women should have twice as many toilets. Men obviously need cubicles but urinals can count as a toilet towards their 1/3 of the provision.

Women have greater biological needs and take longer per visit. (They also are more likely to wash their hands).

If you have many universal designs (unisex) only (even with female and/or male pictograms), you have to have 25% more toilets in total because the turnover time is longer as people are waiting for you to wash and dry hands.

All the calculations have been worked out. Network Rail had a few pages in their brochure discussing this for different stations.

Maybe we should post all the men who are posting videos or images of them either telling women they are going to keep using the female single sex toilets in the UK in defiance of the law or posting selfies of them in there.

Just so OP knows who they need to stop at the door so that female people can have female single sex provisions without male people entering.

Or … to assure OP that if all these male people turned their attention to campaigning for male toilets to be more inclusive like a ‘you can pee next me’ campaign, there would be plenty of social media influencers to ask to campaign…

Here was one at Channel 5.

https://x.com/treesey/status/2085078452995080673?s=46

Imagine opening organisations up to complaints when women start showing the evidence that the organisations are failing to provide female single sex spaces … maybe these male people haven’t really thought this through…

I'm pissed off the new women's toilets at Kew Gardens cafe have floor to ceiling doors. I wonder if it's because they know men will used them and will never be challenged by Kew 'queering plants' Gardens.

I am pissed off the Lightsight in London rebuilt their mens and women's toilets, to join the two rooms together, with shared sinks. The whole thing is down a corridor with two doors between it and the lobby/shop. And because they know there are privacy issues with mixed sex provision, they've made the doors floor to ceiling, making it easy to push a woman or child into a cubicle to assault them, and making it harder to know if someone's ill in there.
And because they did this in 2023, it's not even illegal AFAIK.

Here is Willoughby announcing he will be using the female toilets.

https://x.com/womenoscotland/status/2085080091088822555?s=46

"the shunning process" 😂

Well, he's clearly put A LOT of thought into that little X fantasy of his

I wonder what the plan is? Keep using women's toilets until somebody asks him to leave, and then do what? It seems like a very precarious way to live. Would seem far more sensible to campaign for the certainty of additional unisex provision.

He is absolutely gagging for an unpleasant confrontation with a woman

Most women won't make a peep if an angry weirdo plants himself at the sink and glares at them.

Grey rock all the way.

Geezo. Where did the bizarre underwear detail come from?!

Well i would be up for that one even though being four foot eleven and three quarters.

I am very feminine in appearance, without make up or any due effort to, well look girly or womanly.

my additional advantage is i am a gobby fucker, of diminutive height.

Luckily where i live in the Provences we don’t have much of a problem

presumably the trans peeps are mostly at home vacuuming in swirly dresses or some other such activity on line.

@IntolerantOfIntolerance….

Meanwhile we stagger on. If you want backup using a toilet I’m yours. I’ll walk into the ladies with you and tell people to back the fuck off if I have to. I will walk into the men’s too if I have to, so everyone is scandalised at me while you get a chance to sneak in and have a piss in peace. The situation is ludicrous - what I can do is a drop in the ocean, but drop I will.

Have you posted on the right forum? It seems you might have thought you were addressing Trans identifying men. You silly sausage….

Women can now in full confidence know a man should not be present, that he has no legal right, and service providers will be asked to remove him. They don't need 'proof' he's a man, it's irrelevant.

If he kicks off, he'll be handled as any other service user kicking off/being unpleasant to staff and other service users, with banning from the space and the police called if necessary.

The police will probably at most have a word, but they will require him to leave the women's space, and repeat breaking of this boundary quite on purpose with the total disregard for women, the law, the service provider or anything but himself, will eventually wear out all good will I should think. Again I'm reminded of the naked rambler. Repeatedly cautioned, stopped, arrested, he's got to do it through some odd need of his own.

Third spaces have to be provided, the guidance is clear. No one left without a space. The problem for IW and other such activist men is that this includes women. The requirement to respect and tolerate women who need single sex provision.

We're down to the core of it now: the utter loathing and despising of women, the wish to punish and exclude the ones who won't serve, and the determination to quite literally piss on their territory. Not much to sympathise with there.

Exactly this

Piss in peace in the men's OP. Leave women alone.

https://x.com/mrmennotweets/status/2085026257775817185?s=46

Here are some more.

I mean, it highlights exactly the point that these male people have no intention of recognising female people’s consent on this issue. There is a word for that kind of behaviour.

(Of course, when women use that word to describe that behaviour they are then accused falsely of saying ‘all TW are like that’ by posters who can only think in polarised positions.)

I am sure there will be more examples of male people who are keen on telling women on social media that they will ignore female people’s consent….

Great thread OP!