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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Do you support “trans” or are you a monster? New Good Law Project billboard campaign.

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 13/07/2026 17:39

The reliably foolish Good Law Project have commissioned a new outdoor campaign, coming to a street near you.

https://monster.goodlawproject.org/

Of course I support trans – I’m not a monster - Monster

Trans people should be able to live their lives in peace.

https://monster.goodlawproject.org/

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GrandmaMazur · 16/07/2026 13:59

NebulousSupportPostcard · 16/07/2026 13:04

The burrito method! Tried, failed and ended up with a giant tangled burrito that was extremely difficult to separate (and impossible to eat!).

😂

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 16/07/2026 16:58

HumberSquid · 15/07/2026 08:04

Every woman I've ever known prefers a closed cubicle. Women dont, on the whole, like being overheard whilst on the loo and especially not if ill.

I sometimes faint when I stand up. I'd rather be overheard on the loo than be behind a closed locked full-height door when I black out so that no one hears me crack my head on the bowl as a fall or sees my collapsed body on the floor under the door gap. Likewise, I'd rather be overheard throwing up than die choking on my own vomit behind a closed full-height door because no one could see me collapsed on the floor.

What some women prefer and what is the safest option aren't the same thing.

WrongKindOfFeminist · 16/07/2026 16:58

Once, I dreamed I ate my pillow and woke up and my giant marshmallow was gone.

I take it Mumsnet has a genius solution to folding fitted sheets?

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 16/07/2026 17:02

WrongKindOfFeminist · 16/07/2026 16:58

Once, I dreamed I ate my pillow and woke up and my giant marshmallow was gone.

I take it Mumsnet has a genius solution to folding fitted sheets?

I don't think there is one.

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 16/07/2026 17:08

ApplebyArrows · 15/07/2026 09:31

Some of us spend most of the day alone in the house. Some people are hundreds of times more likely to have a medical emergency at home than in a public toilet, and yet we don't force people to have a 10cm gap at the bottom of their front doors.

  1. My home: my risk decisions, up to me to get a panic system installed if I think my health merits it. Public spaces: risk decisions that keep the most people safe in an environment where a panic system is likely to be set off maliciously by yobbos.
  2. If I don't check in online for my job, my colleagues notice. If I don't reply to my mum's texts, she notices. If the milk isn't taken off the step, the milkman, postie, and neighbours all notice. If a public toilet with a full-height door is locked for a long time and knocking doesn't get an answer, people assume that the bolt has slipped, it's out-of-order and has been locked from the outside by the cleaner, or it's used as a cleaners' cupboard.
GrandmaMazur · 16/07/2026 17:10

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 16/07/2026 16:58

I sometimes faint when I stand up. I'd rather be overheard on the loo than be behind a closed locked full-height door when I black out so that no one hears me crack my head on the bowl as a fall or sees my collapsed body on the floor under the door gap. Likewise, I'd rather be overheard throwing up than die choking on my own vomit behind a closed full-height door because no one could see me collapsed on the floor.

What some women prefer and what is the safest option aren't the same thing.

An elderly relative recently got stuck in an enclosed cubicle and there was music playing in the communal hand washing area so it took a while for someone to hear her cries for help. If she’d collapsed I hate to think how long she’d have been there.

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 16/07/2026 17:17

Boiledbeetle · 15/07/2026 10:17

Where was that photo taken?

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 16/07/2026 17:30

Keeptoiletssafe · 15/07/2026 10:25

I would rather be a little bit embarrassed that someone heard me fart because that also means they could also hear me cry for help.

I am not bothered others can see my feet. It means I can see which is occupied and if I am on my own in the toilets (as long as doors rest in the open position which they should for safety). Women subconsciously check out their surroundings all the time. It also means that when I walked into a set of toilets I saw a young girl that had stopped breathing straight away (she had choked on her own vomit). I have also walked into toilets and immediately seen two people in one cubicle, a woman and a child, and I could hear the conversation. Since sexual activity is illegal in toilets, a door gap prevents misuse, especially in the men’s toilets.

You may not think you know a person who has been saved by toilet design but you will. When a famous actress felt suddenly horrendously ill in a gym she went to a toilet cubicle. She was saved by another occupant who called 911 and they got her to hospital quick enough to save her from a brain aneurysm.

As for the home analogy it’s daft because it’s where a lot of people die (Bathrooms are the common place paramedics head to when they get into a house). You will also know a case this happened if you watch the news regularly. There’s another famous actor who died recently. His wife was found dead in the bathroom. There was lots of speculation about if she murdered him in a murder-suicide which was awful. I have been researching long enough to know that the most obvious scenario was that she felt ill and went to the bathroom and died. He then died a few days later as she cared for him (he had dementia) and nobody realised. And a while later they announced that’s what happened.

The tragedy is when people are dying in toilets in busy places (schools, stations, workplaces, hospitals etc) where there’s defibrillators nearby and people a few feet away from them and no one knows.

Also, most people who die outside of the home do so unexpectedly because of a sudden onset problem that could potentially be reversed. These people were otherwise healthy, at least healthy enough to be going out.

A fair proportion of people who die at home are expected to die soon. They have end-stage something, whether it be cancer, liver failure, dementia, or something else. So trying to use most deaths being at home as an argument against toilet door gaps is really disingenuous.

I don't like the term "saving a life". What toilet door gaps and paramedics do is prevent premature deaths.

Keeptoiletssafe · 16/07/2026 17:37

GrandmaMazur · 16/07/2026 17:10

An elderly relative recently got stuck in an enclosed cubicle and there was music playing in the communal hand washing area so it took a while for someone to hear her cries for help. If she’d collapsed I hate to think how long she’d have been there.

It’s a problem with accessible toilets too. I make a point of unravelling the pull cord as sometimes people tie it up.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cqjvnkzgr1no

Reporter Matthew Bassett smiles into the camera. He has short, cropped dark hair and a beard and is wearing lime green jumper.

BBC reporter spent six hours on nightclub accessible toilet floor

BBC reporter Matthew Bassett was left stranded in 2014, and finds his story is far from unique.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cqjvnkzgr1no

TWETMIRF · 16/07/2026 17:49

WrongKindOfFeminist · 16/07/2026 16:58

Once, I dreamed I ate my pillow and woke up and my giant marshmallow was gone.

I take it Mumsnet has a genius solution to folding fitted sheets?

No but I store bedding sets in a pillowcase so when I need to change bedding I can just pick that up and everything else is inside ready to go.

Boiledbeetle · 16/07/2026 17:55

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 16/07/2026 17:17

Where was that photo taken?

Not sure. But likely to have been connected to the Durham Miners Gala which was recent.

GrandmaMazur · 16/07/2026 18:02

Keeptoiletssafe · 16/07/2026 17:37

It’s a problem with accessible toilets too. I make a point of unravelling the pull cord as sometimes people tie it up.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cqjvnkzgr1no

Thank you for all your information. It wasn’t something I was aware of but I’ll look out for tied up alarm cords in future. That BBC article does make you realise how difficult it can be for people just to go to the toilet!

Joolsin · 16/07/2026 18:17

I'm late to this thread, having firstly waded through all of the Tempest threads and "Heather" Herbert too! Wow, the rollercoaster is really speeding up, isn't it?! As always, the tangents are fun, fascinating and downright useful - using the bannisters for duvet changing is inspirational!! Btw, the first person I saw who demonstrated the inside out method was Melinda Messenger on Big Brother - thank you, Melinda, you improved my whole life!!

CloakedInGucciAndInScandal · 16/07/2026 18:21

As an uncontrolled epileptic (I’m a NC but FWR regular ) open base cubicles in a single sex communal area are a literal life saver. I also have physical disabilities but I prefer women’s cubicles if possible as I know if I have a seizure, it’ll be seen/heard. It’s just five minutes until you can go into status epilepticus (can be fatal) People with my condition, we have a 1 in 150 chance of dying every year (sorry I’ve worded that wrong, ironically I have concussion and my brain is slow! Not from a sink this time but goodness, sinks are hard! Another reason I don’t like sealed units with the sink in. So I don’t give two fucks if people can hear usual toilet functions, the choice of avoiding any perceived “shame” (which I think is ridiculous anyway) or dying?

Another reason why men should not be allowed into women’s spaces, after all seizure I am usually unconscious and/or very confused, and extremely vulnerable. Hospitals are also places that are dangerous and I’ve posted about my experiences before.

Anyway, thank you all for this thread which has cheered me up muchly! I also want to identify as a monster, and to thr TRAs no doubt I am! Again, no fucks given.

Keeptoiletssafe · 16/07/2026 18:31

selffellatingouroborosofhate · 16/07/2026 17:30

Also, most people who die outside of the home do so unexpectedly because of a sudden onset problem that could potentially be reversed. These people were otherwise healthy, at least healthy enough to be going out.

A fair proportion of people who die at home are expected to die soon. They have end-stage something, whether it be cancer, liver failure, dementia, or something else. So trying to use most deaths being at home as an argument against toilet door gaps is really disingenuous.

I don't like the term "saving a life". What toilet door gaps and paramedics do is prevent premature deaths.

To rescue someone in a toilet in time you need 3 things.

  1. to know the person has collapsed asap
  2. to be able to get to them
  3. to be able to access medical help like a defibrillator

It’s in regulations that toilets have to be openable from the outside and that the door has to open outwards or be able to be lifted off precisely because people collapse against the door (it says that). All schools and most public places have access to a defibrillator.

It sometimes takes days to realise people have collapsed in toilets. If 1 is impossible, 2 and 3 can’t happen in time.

Gaps under the door used to be pretty ubiquitous in single sex toilets. I hoping they will be again.

Davros · 16/07/2026 19:14

I had some duvet covers with those slits in the top years ago, Ikea li think. I won’t be going coverless, I love my William Morris and Liberty duvet covers too much

BridgetYourFortyDaysAreUp · 16/07/2026 19:26

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 16/07/2026 17:02

I don't think there is one.

I take it Mumsnet has a genius solution to folding fitted sheets?

There is! And someone, somewhere will know how to do it. I used to know someone, my cousin's sister-in-law, who knew how to fold fitted sheets as though they were giant squares of perfectly flat paper.

...I never had occasion to ask her to show me how... sorry. 😕

GreenFootstool · 16/07/2026 19:58

BridgetYourFortyDaysAreUp · 16/07/2026 19:26

I take it Mumsnet has a genius solution to folding fitted sheets?

There is! And someone, somewhere will know how to do it. I used to know someone, my cousin's sister-in-law, who knew how to fold fitted sheets as though they were giant squares of perfectly flat paper.

...I never had occasion to ask her to show me how... sorry. 😕

Just stuff it in the cupboard. Works for me.

SidewaysOtter · 16/07/2026 19:59

WrongKindOfFeminist · 16/07/2026 16:58

Once, I dreamed I ate my pillow and woke up and my giant marshmallow was gone.

I take it Mumsnet has a genius solution to folding fitted sheets?

Employing staff to deal with that sort of thing for you, while you recline with a Tunnocks Tea Cake (which I saw discounted in the farm
shop today!)

BridgetYourFortyDaysAreUp · 16/07/2026 20:01

GreenFootstool · 16/07/2026 19:58

Just stuff it in the cupboard. Works for me.

I think she had a lot of time on her hands...

Keeptoiletssafe · 16/07/2026 20:22

With a fitted sheet I get a child to grab the corners (not the gusset edges) and we flop the gusset skirt bit from 4 sides into the middle. It is then a rectangle that can easily be folded by a series of meeting together one person grabbing all corners then do a 90degree sheet reset. We normally do a Bridgertonesque step dance to this.

And that must be my most boring post ever (which is saying something).

The most exciting bit it is I rarely iron and have never ironed bedlinen.

FlirtsWithRhinos · 16/07/2026 20:28

WrongKindOfFeminist · 16/07/2026 16:58

Once, I dreamed I ate my pillow and woke up and my giant marshmallow was gone.

I take it Mumsnet has a genius solution to folding fitted sheets?

Yes!

Where people go wrong is storing clean sheets.

Store them dirty in the washing basket. Don't wash them until you are about to change them. Then wash 'em, dry 'em, take the old ones off and bundle them into the basket, put the new clean ones on never having had to sully yourself with folding the sneaky bastards at all.

Brought to you by Flirts, a total slattern :)

murasaki · 16/07/2026 20:30

FlirtsWithRhinos · 16/07/2026 20:28

Yes!

Where people go wrong is storing clean sheets.

Store them dirty in the washing basket. Don't wash them until you are about to change them. Then wash 'em, dry 'em, take the old ones off and bundle them into the basket, put the new clean ones on never having had to sully yourself with folding the sneaky bastards at all.

Brought to you by Flirts, a total slattern :)

This may resemble what I do with fitted sheets, I couldn't possibly comment...

BridgetYourFortyDaysAreUp · 16/07/2026 20:33

Keeptoiletssafe · 16/07/2026 20:22

With a fitted sheet I get a child to grab the corners (not the gusset edges) and we flop the gusset skirt bit from 4 sides into the middle. It is then a rectangle that can easily be folded by a series of meeting together one person grabbing all corners then do a 90degree sheet reset. We normally do a Bridgertonesque step dance to this.

And that must be my most boring post ever (which is saying something).

The most exciting bit it is I rarely iron and have never ironed bedlinen.

The most exciting bit it is I rarely iron and have never ironed bedlinen

Hurray! (and thanks for the fitted sheet tip. Now, to find a child...)

murasaki · 16/07/2026 20:36

Also i don't even own an iron, so sorry, Flirts, I win the slattern trophy.

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