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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Rupert Lowe’s rape gang enquiry, report published

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Yddraigoldragon · 16/06/2026 20:50

The report has been published, link below.

http://bit.ly/4uE5odw

It is harrowing.

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MowAndChill · 20/06/2026 09:48

RedTagAlan · 18/06/2026 04:35

Why do you want to nuke the UK ?

I keep reading from Americans that they want to nuke and invade us.

??? Crazy US-UK things going on.

MowAndChill · 20/06/2026 09:59

I woke up this morning to an American social media personality, Valentina Gomez, whose bio starts with "I follow Jesus Christ" declaring with zero evidence that the child thrown into the crocodile enclosure in the UK was thrown by a Muslim. Her words exactly:
A muslim threw a 3-year old child into a pit full of crocodiles.

Who is this helping?

As far as I'm aware there is absolutely zero evidence to support this.

This woman is often invited to Tommy Robinson events so she'll be followed by that crowd.

So now some British people will wake up, see that, and genuinely believe a Muslim fed a child to crocodiles.

There are real integration issues in this country. I have just finished reading about a Pakistani gang member who called in 20 of his mates to hack a tree surgeon's hand off, for instance. Stabbings are surging all over London and inner cities with black people disproportionately perpetrating and being victim. We clearly have integration issues.
That's all worth talking about. But that's not going to go well when we've got Robinson and Americans screaming "Muslims did it" about everything.

The grooming gang was made up of predominately Pakistani Muslims but was Islam driving force? I'm not sold. There are similar Sikh gangs operating in Canada, there was the Sicilian Catholic mafia in America. Was Catholicism behind them turning New York into a blood bath?

I think it's more likely that these are ethnic and clan dynamics of people who have failed to integrate for reasons that need exploring.

If anyone is interested I can't across a piece written by a British Asian guy, Sharjeel Ashraf, specifically on South Asian non-integration. He says theres basically a problem that runs all across the south Asian community and they are clannish, stick to in-group hiring, organised crime, lots of hostility to Britain, etc, regardless of religion. I'll add the link.

From where I stand it looks like Tommy Robinson has basically exported a narrative to American audiences that we're mid-civil-war with Muslims and some of them are running with it and its creating a hysterical feedback loop.

I don't feel like I'm in a civil war. I don't feel terrified when I see a woman in hijab. Mother Mary covered her hair.
Isn't Robinson always banging on about everyone becoming Christian again? Next time you see a hijab Robinson, that's how Mother Mary would've covered.

No group is without its baggage. It seems ours includes having given the world OnlyFans. Pakistan has given us grooming gangs. According to the Internet that has to mean every Pakistani is a rapist and every British woman is a wh#re.

Can we not have sensible conversations anymore that actually protect people so tree surgeons don't get hacked up by gangs, there aren't teens roaming around with knives in their pants, girls don't get raped by grooming networks and women don't get their head coverings ripped off in the street.

I thought I lived in Britain!

Sikhing the Truth

Problems in the South Asian community are not limited to Mirpuris

https://www.pimlicojournal.co.uk/p/sikhing-the-truth

Ereshkigalangcleg · 20/06/2026 10:16

MowAndChill · 20/06/2026 09:59

I woke up this morning to an American social media personality, Valentina Gomez, whose bio starts with "I follow Jesus Christ" declaring with zero evidence that the child thrown into the crocodile enclosure in the UK was thrown by a Muslim. Her words exactly:
A muslim threw a 3-year old child into a pit full of crocodiles.

Who is this helping?

As far as I'm aware there is absolutely zero evidence to support this.

This woman is often invited to Tommy Robinson events so she'll be followed by that crowd.

So now some British people will wake up, see that, and genuinely believe a Muslim fed a child to crocodiles.

There are real integration issues in this country. I have just finished reading about a Pakistani gang member who called in 20 of his mates to hack a tree surgeon's hand off, for instance. Stabbings are surging all over London and inner cities with black people disproportionately perpetrating and being victim. We clearly have integration issues.
That's all worth talking about. But that's not going to go well when we've got Robinson and Americans screaming "Muslims did it" about everything.

The grooming gang was made up of predominately Pakistani Muslims but was Islam driving force? I'm not sold. There are similar Sikh gangs operating in Canada, there was the Sicilian Catholic mafia in America. Was Catholicism behind them turning New York into a blood bath?

I think it's more likely that these are ethnic and clan dynamics of people who have failed to integrate for reasons that need exploring.

If anyone is interested I can't across a piece written by a British Asian guy, Sharjeel Ashraf, specifically on South Asian non-integration. He says theres basically a problem that runs all across the south Asian community and they are clannish, stick to in-group hiring, organised crime, lots of hostility to Britain, etc, regardless of religion. I'll add the link.

From where I stand it looks like Tommy Robinson has basically exported a narrative to American audiences that we're mid-civil-war with Muslims and some of them are running with it and its creating a hysterical feedback loop.

I don't feel like I'm in a civil war. I don't feel terrified when I see a woman in hijab. Mother Mary covered her hair.
Isn't Robinson always banging on about everyone becoming Christian again? Next time you see a hijab Robinson, that's how Mother Mary would've covered.

No group is without its baggage. It seems ours includes having given the world OnlyFans. Pakistan has given us grooming gangs. According to the Internet that has to mean every Pakistani is a rapist and every British woman is a wh#re.

Can we not have sensible conversations anymore that actually protect people so tree surgeons don't get hacked up by gangs, there aren't teens roaming around with knives in their pants, girls don't get raped by grooming networks and women don't get their head coverings ripped off in the street.

I thought I lived in Britain!

I agree with you about the problem of misinformation on social media. But I think a lot of the time it’s fuelled by the authorities being dishonest, like Sophie of Dundee where the police basically lied about what happened and Humza Yusaf decided to fan the flames further. And don’t get me started on BBC Verify.

This is how Tommy Robinson, Lotus Eaters, Rupert Lowe, Farage to some extent and a whole host of influencers around the world can come across as the fearless truth tellers.

5MinuteArgument · 20/06/2026 10:26

Ereshkigalangcleg · 20/06/2026 10:16

I agree with you about the problem of misinformation on social media. But I think a lot of the time it’s fuelled by the authorities being dishonest, like Sophie of Dundee where the police basically lied about what happened and Humza Yusaf decided to fan the flames further. And don’t get me started on BBC Verify.

This is how Tommy Robinson, Lotus Eaters, Rupert Lowe, Farage to some extent and a whole host of influencers around the world can come across as the fearless truth tellers.

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Yes, because those who should be telling the truth, BBC and the rest of the msm, are too busy minimising, denying and deflecting on anything that doesn't suit their agenda. This is why so many people no longer trust them.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 20/06/2026 10:26

Yes, this.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 20/06/2026 10:31

And then when the BBC was exposed as having pushed the trans agenda and lied about Trump, you had all these people on the left, including on here, saying “who cares, why are we wasting time on this”. Because if it matters that people you don’t agree with are lying to push their agenda, it matters that people you agree with are lying to push theirs. It’s not a good situation when no one can trust anyone to tell the truth. It’s not difficult.

PollyNomial · 20/06/2026 10:40

Imnobody4 · 19/06/2026 12:51

Why can't we acknowledge we are a Christian country. There are many Islamic countries in the world. Some of them are persecuting Christians right now.

Because only a minority of people follows that middle Eastern import.

PollyNomial · 20/06/2026 10:45

Ereshkigalangcleg · 20/06/2026 10:31

And then when the BBC was exposed as having pushed the trans agenda and lied about Trump, you had all these people on the left, including on here, saying “who cares, why are we wasting time on this”. Because if it matters that people you don’t agree with are lying to push their agenda, it matters that people you agree with are lying to push theirs. It’s not a good situation when no one can trust anyone to tell the truth. It’s not difficult.

What lies about Trump?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 20/06/2026 10:47

Feel free to google, Polly.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 20/06/2026 10:48

I’d welcome your thoughts on the actual salient point about misinformation from all sides though.

5MinuteArgument · 20/06/2026 11:04

Ereshkigalangcleg · 20/06/2026 10:48

I’d welcome your thoughts on the actual salient point about misinformation from all sides though.

Yes, there is misinformation from all sides. The BBC should be able to rise above this and not just be pushing a liberal-left, pro-multiculturalism, pro-immigration agenda. They have lost credibility by doing this and enabled people on the right and the far right to fill the void.

PollyNomial · 20/06/2026 11:05

I can only think of the panorama introduction edit which is guilty of not making it clear what a rambling speech he gave that day and nothing more.

Anything else that makes you think the BBC doesn't give sufficient veneration to that racist, sex abuser?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 20/06/2026 11:22

5MinuteArgument · 20/06/2026 11:04

Yes, there is misinformation from all sides. The BBC should be able to rise above this and not just be pushing a liberal-left, pro-multiculturalism, pro-immigration agenda. They have lost credibility by doing this and enabled people on the right and the far right to fill the void.

Exactly.

mrshoho · 20/06/2026 11:29

PollyNomial · 20/06/2026 11:05

I can only think of the panorama introduction edit which is guilty of not making it clear what a rambling speech he gave that day and nothing more.

Anything else that makes you think the BBC doesn't give sufficient veneration to that racist, sex abuser?

Thats one way of looking at it. Trump's lawyers on the other hand see it differently. Chopping his speech and editing it.

Trump’s legal team said the BBC had “intentionally and maliciously defamed” the president “by distorting and manipulating his speech”.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 20/06/2026 11:40

I love the lame attempt to paint me as some sort of Trump fan.

PollyNomial · 20/06/2026 12:00

Ereshkigalangcleg · 20/06/2026 10:48

I’d welcome your thoughts on the actual salient point about misinformation from all sides though.

There is, at least, perceived misinformation on all sides.

I'm not going to go all professional commentator and opine (with faux authority) about every possible area.

There are some areas of definite misinformation because verified evidence to the contrary exists (e.g. mistakenly thinking that MMR causes autism). Without ripping up free speech so that only people with sufficient expertise may discuss those topics, we're always going to be facing misinformation here.

Some things are a matter of opinion and espousing those views will always be viewed as misinformation by others.

I'm not holding up his politics for everyone to follow but the rigour and depth with which Mehdi Hassan approaches his interviews (giving or receiving) is exemplary. No-one gets away with unevidenced assertions or faulty logic with him. That's how to counter misinformation but it must be hard/expensive or more would surely do the same.

PollyNomial · 20/06/2026 12:02

mrshoho · 20/06/2026 11:29

Thats one way of looking at it. Trump's lawyers on the other hand see it differently. Chopping his speech and editing it.

Trump’s legal team said the BBC had “intentionally and maliciously defamed” the president “by distorting and manipulating his speech”.

I can see his lawyers point. Panorama made it look like Trump incited an insurrection when actually he did incite an insurrection.

soddingspiderseason · 20/06/2026 12:09

mrshoho · 20/06/2026 11:29

Thats one way of looking at it. Trump's lawyers on the other hand see it differently. Chopping his speech and editing it.

Trump’s legal team said the BBC had “intentionally and maliciously defamed” the president “by distorting and manipulating his speech”.

Is it possible to distort Trump’s speech? I mean, I can barely understand what the fruitloop says most of the time now. Although, he did indeed incite insurrection back when he was slightly more lucid. Poor man, needs to be in a suitable care home.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 20/06/2026 12:24

Yes it was possible to distort the speech and that’s what the BBC did. But that’s not the point, the point is misinformation/disinformation and people not feeling they can trust anyone on all sides. It makes people very easy to manipulate.

mrshoho · 20/06/2026 12:32

PollyNomial · 20/06/2026 12:02

I can see his lawyers point. Panorama made it look like Trump incited an insurrection when actually he did incite an insurrection.

Why on earth did the BBC go to such lengths to manipulate his speech in that way? His own words in the order he actually said them would have given viewers a truthful honest account.

This is what we should expect from the BBC. Impartial factual reporting. Much as Trump is detested he deserves his speech to be reported without manipulation.

5MinuteArgument · 20/06/2026 14:03

mrshoho · 20/06/2026 12:32

Why on earth did the BBC go to such lengths to manipulate his speech in that way? His own words in the order he actually said them would have given viewers a truthful honest account.

This is what we should expect from the BBC. Impartial factual reporting. Much as Trump is detested he deserves his speech to be reported without manipulation.

Shows how clueless and biased they are. They think everyone thinks like them and hates Trump and won't mind if his speeches are edited to make him look even worse than he is.

Imnobody4 · 20/06/2026 14:18

This unbelievable. I thought the early release scheme excluded violent offenders.
From Sammy Woodhouse on X

Due to the Sentencing Act 2026, Arshid Hussain – the man who abducted and raped me as a child, and who did the same to dozens of other children – is being considered for early release. He was sentenced to 35 years in prison in early 2017 and was described as one of the most dangerous men in the UK. He was later convicted of further offences.

His brother, Basharat Hussain, is also being considered for release.

I honestly can’t put into words how disgusted I am with the British government.
https://x.com/i/status/2067986940373131624

Also Fiona Goddard
https://x.com/i/status/2067509725931999328

Many victims/survivors or child sexual abuse and rape got this letter this week saying their abusers are being assessed to be released after serving just 33% of their sentence. Ive had message after message from people deverstated after recieving it. By the end of this year, 100's or rapists and pedophiles could be released onto our streets.
This is how kier starmer plans to tackle VAWG........ by letting more sexualy violent men back onto the streets after serving just a slap on the wrist for some of the worst crimes imaginable

S A M M Y Woodhouse (@officialsammyuk) on X

Due to the Sentencing Act 2026, Arshid Hussain – the man who abducted and raped me as a child, and who did the same to dozens of other children – is being considered for early release. He was sentenced to 35 years in prison in early 2017 and was descri...

https://x.com/i/status/2067986940373131624

CassOle · 20/06/2026 14:21

FFS.

PrettyDamnCosmic · 20/06/2026 14:28

This is just a routine message informing victims that the Sentencing Act 2026 reduced the earliest release date from to 33%. This replaced the temporary 40% & standard 50% release thresholds. Whether they are assessed as fit for release is another matter entirely. None of these men will be released at 33% of their sentence any more than they would have been released after 40%.

Imnobody4 · 20/06/2026 14:42

That maybe true but it is more distress and suspence for the victims.