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What is in the water this week?! Glinner now making a mockery of the cause

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RobynMiller · Yesterday 17:06

I know I know I should just get off twitter but this week is just back to back GC news and not in a good way.

If you haven't seen, Glinner posted a video mocking Green Leader Zack Polanski, understandable plenty of material for a comedy writer there, but the video is so unhinged and unfunny.

Some speculating Graham was drunk when he made it but it's been 24 hours and he's left it up so maybe not.

I feel like we are finally gaining real ground in this fight and this makes GCs look like a bunch of lunatics.

I know there is no formal hierarchy but like it or not, for better and worse, we do have public faces and 'spokespeople' for this fight and this is just embarrassing.

I just feel so helpless because there can't be any accountability for this kind of thing but my God.

Thanks for listening to my rant, just been a very frustrating week.

Video here: https://x.com/Glinner/status/2047187374699126873?s=20

Graham Linehan (@Glinner) on X

Green Party broadcast

https://x.com/Glinner/status/2047187374699126873?s=20

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Kingsleadhat · Today 13:02

TWETMIRF · Today 10:26

Your bigotry is making me feel unsafe.

Your exclusion of non Tunnocks eaters is a symptom of your widespread hatred for anyone that doesn't conform to your outdated views. I am so vulnerable that I will start a campaign to get you sacked, publicly vilified and banned from being within 1 mile of any Tunnocks product.

I'm vegan so will consume things presenting as Tunnocks while realising they are not as good as the real thing. I'm so confused about how I should react to them. Is there any training available?

AgedWalrus · Today 13:26

Pocahontasandme · Today 10:51

No I didn’t call anyone racist. And also, silly comments about tunnocks doesn’t suggest a sense of humour

Oh yes it does….😂

WarriorN · Today 13:34

tanstaafl · Today 12:51

people’s ?

To be fair, when it comes to Father Zack Hypnotits, sex is an ecumenical matter.

stapletonsguitar · Today 13:45

Firetreev · Today 08:44

No, I believe in biology and I'm not far right. My point is people who were posting things regarding GC that I agreed with were also posting far right tosh and racist posts and it caused me to disengage with the movement. I think that the far right have latched on to this issue, and are poisoning the GC arena.

It’s possible to agree with some views that people hold but not others? I feel the same as you about some GC “spokespeople”, I just unfollowed them. It doesn’t mean the cause isn’t worthwhile.

FlirtsWithRhinos · Today 13:45

Pocahontasandme · Today 09:08

I don’t agree. They spoke up first but hey made such a mess of it since I’m afraid I can’t thank them for anything. If it wasn’t for Gc feminists many other people would be saying this. But they won’t let anyone in, they slag off everyone who speaks up and they constantly criticise each other

Ah yes, I've been expecting this argument to start turning up once the harms of Genderism become undeniable.

"Until it's unavoidable, and then it will be the TERFs fault for being bad people who were right for the wrong reasons, causing the good people to have mistakenly been wrong, but only wrong for right and good reasons."
Me. November 2024

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5202305-imane-khelif-has-been-allegedly-confirmed-to-be-a-man?page=30&reply=139577533

"RSOH will smoothly elide the sides until they have executed a 180 turn without ever directly admitting it. TERFs will still be the bad witches, only now our crime will be that we were so hateful and mean, and almost certainly also homophobic, sex essentialist racist right wing loons, that TRSOH very understandably thought trans issues were the same as all our other crazy prejudices.
Yes, it was all the TERFs fault because our unhinged and unreasonable hate of trans people hid the real problems. That TERFs might have been right on this one will be just a coincidence - we weren't right because we actually understood what was going on or did the research that TROSH didn't, or really cared about the damage being done to women and to trans identifying children, it's just that our blind hate of difference and change happened to stumble on an actual issue.
" - Me, June 2025

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5364310-helen-lewis-in-the-atlantic-gender-medecine-and-the-suicide-lie?page=3&reply=145358267

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Pocahontasandme · Today 14:12

quantumbutterfly · Today 11:16

What has feminism ever done for you?

If you're a woman ...the right to vote, access to birth control, the right not to be raped within marriage, 'better' pay, more opportunities, single sex spaces....

Feminism was brilliant back in the day. So were union leaders. But in the last 30 years they have both become insufferable and hypocritical and everything they once stood against

EarthlyNightshade · Today 14:17

Pocahontasandme · Today 10:59

No I don’t see myself as a feminist. But I drop in here for the information from time to time.

So you don't think women should have equal rights to men.
How far would you want to roll rights for women back?

MouseQueen · Today 15:33

Pocahontasandme · Today 07:51

Gc feminists don’t own the narrative anymore. Thank God for that as they’re an awful crowd - nasty, destructive, self sabotaging, divisive, puritanical, tribal… I could go on for days really

...This is a joke, right?

Easytoconfuse · Today 15:46

Pocahontasandme · Today 07:51

Gc feminists don’t own the narrative anymore. Thank God for that as they’re an awful crowd - nasty, destructive, self sabotaging, divisive, puritanical, tribal… I could go on for days really

Is it every single GC feminist that you don't like? What happened to being kind, letting people exist and not judging? Or does that come with a caveat of 'people I agree with?'

Easytoconfuse · Today 15:48

Firetreev · Today 08:10

What is it with the gender critical to far right pipeline? It's what made me stop engaging with a lot of the gender critical community. I agree with a lot of what they have to say ragarding sex and gender. However, seeing how many went off the deep end and started spouting racist and far right views too made me walk away. It makes me question who's funding the fight and what are their real motivations. Probably not protecting the rights of women and girls.

Can we ask about the links between the transgender movement and the far left? Or are you just insulting the gender critical because you don't agree with them? Some may well be far right. Others far left. Others won't care. You don't need a political belief not to want to have to undress in front of a bloke you don't know, and whose motives may be to use you as a sex toy.

Pocahontasandme · Today 16:33

Easytoconfuse · Today 15:46

Is it every single GC feminist that you don't like? What happened to being kind, letting people exist and not judging? Or does that come with a caveat of 'people I agree with?'

I don’t like most Gc feminists that I’ve met, and yes, I’ve met quite a few. I find them tribal, ideological, suspicious, and over anxious.
I’m not sure what you’re talking about being kind- I’m not unkind. I let people exist. I judge people when they behave badly.

FlirtsWithRhinos · Today 16:47

Pocahontasandme · Today 16:33

I don’t like most Gc feminists that I’ve met, and yes, I’ve met quite a few. I find them tribal, ideological, suspicious, and over anxious.
I’m not sure what you’re talking about being kind- I’m not unkind. I let people exist. I judge people when they behave badly.

LOL. My guess is you approach people you perceive to be "GC feminists" (whatever that label means to you) with a bunch of assumptions and judgemental mindset, and what you experience is a reaction to that.

PrizedPickledPopcorn · Today 16:47

tanstaafl · Today 12:51

people’s ?

Indeed, as he can’t tell the difference between men and women so would market his skills to both, I imagine. And as I went on to say, TW may be a fertile marketing ground if their ‘titty skittles’ work slower than they hope.

Datun · Today 17:21

I love that we are expected to believe that someone stops being gender critical because they meet a gender critical person they don't like.

I'm not sure TRAs have quite grasped operation let them speak

Wearenotborg · Today 17:28

Pocahontasandme · Today 14:12

Feminism was brilliant back in the day. So were union leaders. But in the last 30 years they have both become insufferable and hypocritical and everything they once stood against

What? Now they want to take away women’s rights? Feminists? Are you sure about that? I’ve not seen any feminists arguing for that . I’ve seen people claiming to be feminists arguing women don’t deserve sex based rights (looking at you Laurie Penny and Judith Butler). Is that who you mean?

Wearenotborg · Today 17:29

Datun · Today 17:21

I love that we are expected to believe that someone stops being gender critical because they meet a gender critical person they don't like.

I'm not sure TRAs have quite grasped operation let them speak

Edited

Didn’t we have that a couple of weeks ago? A poster who was claiming they were GC but then came on here and our nastiness made them a full on TRA?

Datun · Today 17:31

Wearenotborg · Today 17:29

Didn’t we have that a couple of weeks ago? A poster who was claiming they were GC but then came on here and our nastiness made them a full on TRA?

Yeah. As tactics go it's not the smartest.

Wearenotborg · Today 17:35

Datun · Today 17:31

Yeah. As tactics go it's not the smartest.

Also very repetitive. I on the other hand was a TRA until I did what they told me to do, educated myself and listened to trans people. Then became a full on TERF.

MrsOvertonsWindow · Today 17:47

Datun · Today 17:31

Yeah. As tactics go it's not the smartest.

Odd how those who boast of disliking women who fight for women's rights spend so much time on here showcasing their lack of thinking and their inability to evidence anything - and expect women to cower in amazement at their views. 😅

I know toddlers with more sophisticated thinking skills.

quantumbutterfly · Today 18:14

Wearenotborg · Today 17:28

What? Now they want to take away women’s rights? Feminists? Are you sure about that? I’ve not seen any feminists arguing for that . I’ve seen people claiming to be feminists arguing women don’t deserve sex based rights (looking at you Laurie Penny and Judith Butler). Is that who you mean?

Maybe single sex spaces was a trigger phrase. I hadn't even mentioned womens' sports or equal access to education.

Datun · Today 18:35

MrsOvertonsWindow · Today 17:47

Odd how those who boast of disliking women who fight for women's rights spend so much time on here showcasing their lack of thinking and their inability to evidence anything - and expect women to cower in amazement at their views. 😅

I know toddlers with more sophisticated thinking skills.

Yeah it's very poor. It's not as though they're hard to spot.

ArabellaScott · Today 18:55

Ereshkigalangcleg · Today 09:02

If it wasn’t for GC feminists you could be sacked with impunity just for questioning the opposing narrative.

Yes, but dont forget we're evil bastards and we smell.

ArabellaScott · Today 19:33

Wearenotborg · Today 17:29

Didn’t we have that a couple of weeks ago? A poster who was claiming they were GC but then came on here and our nastiness made them a full on TRA?

We get quite a lot of 'I'm gc as they come but you lot are bastards, horrible meanie bastards'.

MrsOvertonsWindow · Today 19:41

ArabellaScott · Today 19:33

We get quite a lot of 'I'm gc as they come but you lot are bastards, horrible meanie bastards'.

Don't we just. I got a deletion recently for pointing out that an allegedly new to Mumsnet faux "I'm GC but..." poster had a complete range of tra acronyms and talking points. 😅

ArabellaScott · Today 19:43

Ooh there you go being a horrible bastard again Mrs Overton, and noticing things. It's very mean to point out people's hypocritical bullshit, you know.