Transgender hate on mum's net

[Steph2002]

I'm just wondering, I see so much hate on here about transgender woman and not a lot about transgender men. Does everyone on mum's net hate Transgender women and if so why? I don't mind sharing a toilet space with a transgender woman in fact my best friend is a transgender woman and she is the nicest person you could ever wish to meet and will protect any woman no matter where they are. I would hate to be sharing a toilet with a hairy masculine transgender man, which seems the way people want to go why? Am I the only person on here that supports trans gender women, if so I need to leave. How many people that hate Transgender women have actually met one and had issues with one I'd love to know.

Why are men not expected to obey the law?

This has been done so many times before OP. You could easily look up one of the many other identical posts on here and read the answers.

It’s not nuanced.
People can’t change sex.
Men pose more of a risk to women than women pose to women, statistically.
Trans women are men.
Women deserves spaces away from men.
Women can care about more than one issue, at the same time.

You, and the others, plop post and flounce because you know you can’t argue with the above without resorting to nonsense.

Toodles.

I don't hate anyone transgender, I don't really hate anyone (perhaps with the exception of a few country leaders who keep killing others). What I find though that is if I do not wish for a transwoman in woman's spaces or sports then people would tell me I am full of hate for trans.

Kill all terfs I think I have read from transwomen, on more than one occasion! That's where I see hatred coming from.

But every cell in their body will contain DNA of their actual sex. It's what they are, despite your eyes.

That’s a real shame for the poor women with PCOS and the menopausal ones with hairy chins. And the ones who don’t want to confirm to gender norms by shaving their legs and armpits. Maybe they’re not womanly enough to use the ladies’ either 🤣

Well bully for you. Others disagree with you.

You are happy to go in a toilet with a man (transgender woman). You don't speak for all women though.

That is what feminism is all about. Its not just about you and how you feel. Its about all women. If one woman or girl is upset about it, feels uncomfortable, unsafe etc - thats one too many. Surely you can see that?

You don't get to give consent for other women.

Indeed. I am informed by the men in my life, who between them have several hundred man-years of public toilet use, that men just want to pee.

I can assure you I'm not a hater but there's plenty of people in this threat that are.

How exactly am I giving away women’s rights?

To the extent that they don't engage in there and try to leave an empty urinal between people if possible. There's a whole etiquette. The lovely transwomen will be fine.

You seem to predicate trans on passing which is transphobic. They are who they say they are, apparently. Amd wouldn't like a hairy woman in the women's loos. Pretty hateful to me.

what about the bog standard ugly ones? there must be some. Or are they all beautiful, stunning and brave?

No, I have trans friends. Unfortunately the haters are loud, well-organised and aggressive.

Yes, Bashback and other TRAs are. It's appalling.

I hope that’s a typo.

define hate.
if you see hateful posts report them for deletion.

You mean the kind of haters who threaten to rape women who don't agree with them with barbed wire baseball bats or post their addresses online so people can intimidate them?

Or do you mean the kind of haters who simply know you can't change sex, and sometimes that matters?

At a well organised, loud rally, fairly aggressive isn't it?

So you would prefer a beefy, masculine, hair trans man in the toilets with you?

How do you work out, DeftBrickWriter, that an issue which removes even the most basic women's right, i.e. the right to the word 'woman', has zero significance in our lives?

I don't know much about history, but I do know how to be on the right side of biology, which says that human sex is binary and immutable.

I'm aware that for some people, facts like that are of precisely zero significance..

You see this is precisely the problem as a man on oestrogen and T blockers can't be a sexual predator as they have no sex drive, this is the sort of misinformation that's causing the trouble.

Please can someone define “hate”?

Of course, they can. In fact, when men are chemically castrated, it often makes them more violent out of frustration and they start using objects to penetrate their victims instead. This is basic stuff.

You may not be a hater, but you're harmful nonetheless. Do you think your comments are supportive of TW who can't afford hair removal treatments or have health conditions that mean they can't take medication or have surgery? Do you think all those TW who don't pass will be thanking you for referring to them as 'a man in a dress'? And the TM who choose to excercise their right to use the women's, maybe because they feel safer, knowing you 'hate' them being in there?
You obviously mean well, but you clearly don't know your subject. It's not enough to come to MN and call GC people names. You have to be on message yourself otherwise you're just alienating both sides of the debate.