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TinselAngel · 05/04/2026 22:47

JennyShaw · 03/04/2026 09:45

I don't feel sorry for his wife. She is Kristi Noem, a conservative politician, and she has opposed gay marriage.

Oh so conservative trans widows deserve abuse?

TinselAngel · 05/04/2026 22:57

I often feel that despite having been talking on mumsnet about trans widows for 9 years that we’re no further forward.

moto748e · 05/04/2026 23:01

Not for lack of effort on your part, @TinselAngel .

TinselAngel · 05/04/2026 23:02

moto748e · 05/04/2026 23:01

Not for lack of effort on your part, @TinselAngel .

You can take a horse to water but you can’t make it drink etc

murasaki · 05/04/2026 23:06

I feel sorry for her. She may be a horrible person, but she doesn't deserve that shit.

It comes from the same playbook as the one that thinks that if you want single sex spaces you support Trump. It's entirely possible to hold a view without agreeing with every single thing a person who also espouses that view has ever said.

TinselAngel · 05/04/2026 23:16

I know I should be better at engaging with people who are new to this but you do run out of energy. In my experience, USA conservative couples, for whatever reason seem particularly prone to this phenomenon.

Read the women’s stories on our website and see if you still think that some of us deserve what we got, because of politics:
https://www.transwidowsvoices.org/our-voices

Our Voices | Trans Widows Voices

These stories are contributed by women who have sought support and who are now being given the opportunity to share their experiences. 

https://www.transwidowsvoices.org/our-voices

UtopiaPlanitia · 06/04/2026 00:17

The Noem case is causing ripples online:

https://x.com/sappholives83/status/2040722112688615797?s=20
'It seems the activities of Kristi Noem’s husband are causing an uncomfortable feeling of recognition in trans communities…'

For those without TwiX:
https://nitter.net/sappholives83/status/2040722112688615797

stapletonsguitar · 06/04/2026 06:59

hahabahbag · 03/04/2026 10:15

Honestly it varies! Do any of you know trans people or cross dressers? Well I do and each is an individual with different motivations and it’s more diverse than this article. The guy down the road likes the feel of women’s clothing, he knows he isn’t a woman but prefers to dress as one. His name was unisex to begin with. My nephew is full trans he knew he felt different as a toddler and didn’t have words for it, 20 years before any of the current trends began. DD’s friend knew they felt different but was thrown out by intolerant parents aged 16, they now live as a woman but are quiet and don’t push boundaries,

What do you mean by “felt different”? We all “feel different”, because we are all different! Honestly, trans ideology is regressive bullshit and without gender stereotypes it wouldn’t exist.

EmpressaurusKitty · 06/04/2026 08:21

UtopiaPlanitia · 06/04/2026 00:17

The Noem case is causing ripples online:

https://x.com/sappholives83/status/2040722112688615797?s=20
'It seems the activities of Kristi Noem’s husband are causing an uncomfortable feeling of recognition in trans communities…'

For those without TwiX:
https://nitter.net/sappholives83/status/2040722112688615797

Ha.

DeanElderberry · 06/04/2026 08:30

UtopiaPlanitia · 06/04/2026 00:17

The Noem case is causing ripples online:

https://x.com/sappholives83/status/2040722112688615797?s=20
'It seems the activities of Kristi Noem’s husband are causing an uncomfortable feeling of recognition in trans communities…'

For those without TwiX:
https://nitter.net/sappholives83/status/2040722112688615797

That bloke doesn't need a skirt, he needs that elaborate wrapping-up-with-string thing men did in the ancient world to keep their bits in check.

ThatsCute · 06/04/2026 09:33

Bertiebiscuit · 03/04/2026 10:19

So women who have different politics and opinions from yours deserve to be mistreated? How dare they have independent views, they deserve to be punished? Misogyny much.

Nah. She deserves to be punished for delighting in the separation of children (Liam, eg) from their families. For delighting in rounding up Native Americans because they have brown skin. For calling US protesters Domestic Terrorists. For shooting her puppy (RIP Cricket) who she couldn’t be bothered to train. She’s a shit stain on the Constitution and I have zero sympathy for her. Racists may have “independent views that are different to mine,” true—but I will not respect this.

TinselAngel · 06/04/2026 11:27

ThatsCute · 06/04/2026 09:33

Nah. She deserves to be punished for delighting in the separation of children (Liam, eg) from their families. For delighting in rounding up Native Americans because they have brown skin. For calling US protesters Domestic Terrorists. For shooting her puppy (RIP Cricket) who she couldn’t be bothered to train. She’s a shit stain on the Constitution and I have zero sympathy for her. Racists may have “independent views that are different to mine,” true—but I will not respect this.

Edited

So is it just some of us that deserve what we get? How far to the right do women have to go to deserve their fate? Is it just this form of domestic abuse that we deserve or would we deserve other types?

ThatsCute · 06/04/2026 11:35

TinselAngel · 06/04/2026 11:27

So is it just some of us that deserve what we get? How far to the right do women have to go to deserve their fate? Is it just this form of domestic abuse that we deserve or would we deserve other types?

As I said, Kirsty Noem is an absolute shitstain on the Constitution. She deserves every ounce of karma that she gets, whether she’s male or female. Perhaps Google what she’s been up to for the past 14 months (and more).

OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 06/04/2026 11:37

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ThatsCute · 06/04/2026 11:47

Someone who tramples on the civil rights of citizens gets no sympathy in my book. She belongs in the Hague. Not sure what human rights of hers are under threat.

Pingponghavoc · 06/04/2026 11:50

So men are entitled to act this way because women deserved to be punished?

OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 06/04/2026 11:57

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ThatsCute · 06/04/2026 12:01

Pingponghavoc · 06/04/2026 11:50

So men are entitled to act this way because women deserved to be punished?

I don’t think you understand what I’m saying. “Women” don’t need to be “punished.” Men aren’t “entitled” to act this way. Neither are true.

What IS true is that Kirsty Noem trampled on the civil rights of thousands of US citizens, took delight in it, and deserves her karma. Regardless of whether she’s a male or female. I have no sympathy that the shitstain on the Constitution married a piece of shit man. Quelle surprise. Just like I would have zero sympathy for any other piece of shit human being (male or female) who found themselves in the same situation—Trump, Jeffrey Epstein, Gislane Maxwell, Andrew Mountbatten, etc. Poor excuses of human beings get zero sympathy from me when bad things happen in their lives.

TinselAngel · 06/04/2026 12:26

ThatsCute · 06/04/2026 11:35

As I said, Kirsty Noem is an absolute shitstain on the Constitution. She deserves every ounce of karma that she gets, whether she’s male or female. Perhaps Google what she’s been up to for the past 14 months (and more).

Edited

Putting aside “shit stain on the constitution” being really odd terminology, who or what she is is irrelevant. You are suggesting that some women deserve to be abused by their husbands due to their politics/ behaviour. Not only that, but it is “karma”. So the universe is using abuse to righteously punish them for their views.

This is a profoundly unfeminist statement on a feminist board.

Where is your line on this? Do eg women who vote conservative deserve abuse? Is it a husbands duty to punish us if we have different politics to you?

ThatsCute · 06/04/2026 12:41

TinselAngel · 06/04/2026 12:26

Putting aside “shit stain on the constitution” being really odd terminology, who or what she is is irrelevant. You are suggesting that some women deserve to be abused by their husbands due to their politics/ behaviour. Not only that, but it is “karma”. So the universe is using abuse to righteously punish them for their views.

This is a profoundly unfeminist statement on a feminist board.

Where is your line on this? Do eg women who vote conservative deserve abuse? Is it a husbands duty to punish us if we have different politics to you?

It’s not about politics. It’s not about being a woman.

“Shitstain on the Constitution” means just that—Noem has violated the First Amendment, Second Amendment, Fifth Amendment, and Fourteenth Amendment of the United States Constitution.

I didn’t feel one ounce of sympathy when Jeffrey Epstein died. And I own that. Nor would I ever feel any sympathy for Gislane, Donald, Kirsty, or Andrew.

Not sure what “women who vote Conservative” have to do with this discussion. You have no idea how I vote.

And no, husbands shouldn’t punish us. You ok, hun?

TinselAngel · 06/04/2026 12:57

So it’s all women who contravene the American constitution who deserve abuse?

UtopiaPlanitia · 06/04/2026 15:14

I'm of the opinion that watching people, who describe themselves as aligned with the self-styled empathetic and virtuous side of the political divide, taking pleasure in the spousal abuse and humiliation of a woman, whose politics they disagree with, are probably storing up negative karma for themselves in the future.

The entire point of universal human rights is that even people we can't stand are allowed to have them. The entire point of feminism is that even women we can't stand are allowed to benefit from rights & protections won for women.

I'm not trying to be pious when I say this, I struggle with the idea of human rights, feminism, and equality under the law benefitting some awful human beings who feel no obligation towards bettering society or towards their fellow humans. But the way I see it, the alternatives to this way of thinking are too grim to contemplate and we see them played out in countries all around the world where these concepts have no political standing and human life has very little value, especially if that human life is female.

moto748e · 06/04/2026 15:21

Yes, it's "Civil rights for everyone! Except Nazis"
"But who decides who's a Nazi?"
"We do!"

Or, for Nazis, read 'transphobe bitches'.

UtopiaPlanitia · 06/04/2026 15:30

moto748e · 06/04/2026 15:21

Yes, it's "Civil rights for everyone! Except Nazis"
"But who decides who's a Nazi?"
"We do!"

Or, for Nazis, read 'transphobe bitches'.

Exactly! That 2010s slogan of, 'Punch a nazi', very quickly became, 'Punch a TERF', and women of all political persuasions found themselves in danger of physical violence when they gathered to assert their legal rights.

UtopiaPlanitia · 06/04/2026 18:27

I always think I’ve heard the most selfish and arrogant thing from these men until I hear the next one:

https://x.com/Sidewalk_Steve/status/2040188025490088279
"I think that it's important to know that my dignity means more to me than I think privacy means to any cisgender woman supporting this bill." Hazel Kane NH HB1442

For non TwiX users:
https://nitter.net/Sidewalk_Steve/status/2040188025490088279

Sidewalk Steve (@Sidewalk_Steve) on X

"I think that it's important to know that my dignity means more to me than I think privacy means to any cisgender woman supporting this bill." Hazel Kane NH HB1442

https://x.com/Sidewalk_Steve/status/2040188025490088279

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