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JeopardyLeopardy · 03/04/2026 10:55

hahabahbag · 03/04/2026 10:15

Honestly it varies! Do any of you know trans people or cross dressers? Well I do and each is an individual with different motivations and it’s more diverse than this article. The guy down the road likes the feel of women’s clothing, he knows he isn’t a woman but prefers to dress as one. His name was unisex to begin with. My nephew is full trans he knew he felt different as a toddler and didn’t have words for it, 20 years before any of the current trends began. DD’s friend knew they felt different but was thrown out by intolerant parents aged 16, they now live as a woman but are quiet and don’t push boundaries,

I wonder what the guy down the road means when he says he prefers the feel of women's clothing? I don't think he means jeans and tracksuits.

Shortshriftandlethal · 03/04/2026 11:00

Janie143 · 03/04/2026 10:52

This is my XH. His "woman" persona is submissive slut. It pisses me off that taxpayers have footed the bill for him to have his dick fashioned into a neovagina, "breast" enlargement and all his ongoing prescriptions for hormones etc. Also he wants to be sexually submissive with men but he's a raging homophobe so has to be a woman

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Bet you are glad to be shot of him.

A friend of mine tells me that many gay dating apps are now full of straight men looking for a TW to hook up with; and he also says that a surprising number of gay men like to wear female underwear.

LlynTegid · 03/04/2026 11:03

I expect there are different feelings and motivations.

Let's focus on making sure women do not suffer and be harmed. No-one with a penis in women's changing rooms, no unfair competition in sport, for example.

DeanElderberry · 03/04/2026 11:11

hahabahbag · 03/04/2026 10:15

Honestly it varies! Do any of you know trans people or cross dressers? Well I do and each is an individual with different motivations and it’s more diverse than this article. The guy down the road likes the feel of women’s clothing, he knows he isn’t a woman but prefers to dress as one. His name was unisex to begin with. My nephew is full trans he knew he felt different as a toddler and didn’t have words for it, 20 years before any of the current trends began. DD’s friend knew they felt different but was thrown out by intolerant parents aged 16, they now live as a woman but are quiet and don’t push boundaries,

I know plenty. Not all 'trans'. All narcissists

SwirlyGates · 03/04/2026 11:13

Theeyeballsinthesky · 03/04/2026 09:53

It's one of the many strange things about this ideology, that societal memory seems to have disappeared

when I was growing up we all knew that generally men wore women's clothes because bluntly it turned them on and yet somehow society has been persuaded that that was never the case...

God yes. Now they are poor souls born in the wrong bodies. And if you do actually genuinely think yourself to be female, you must wear dresses and make-up as women don't wear jeans and hoodies.

Shortshriftandlethal · 03/04/2026 11:17

NotBadConsidering · 03/04/2026 10:45

Look at Grace Hyland on Instagram. Cross sex identity as a child, put on puberty blockers and now has a very fetishy sexualised persona and an OnlyFans account (channel? Page?)

Had a look at some images of Hyland.....and as you say seems to be getting more cartoonish and pornified. It seems as if the search for the inner female/woman is leading to hyper sexualised portrayals.

I do wonder whether having an overtly homophobic father can push some young, nascently gay boys into female identification. It is a well worn trope about gay men and their mothers, and we all know about the importance of drag in gay male culture......but the trans phenomenon is now encouraging some of these boys to manifest their same sex attraction/female identification in this extreme way. And they want the validation and attention of striaght men.

Datun · 03/04/2026 11:21

Belittling women is the core mission of almost all male cross-dressing.

This.

And Malcolm does get it. He didn't quite say it, but these men fetishise women's oppression.

It's all across the bloody Internet. Completely undeniable.

They want to be submissive, treated like dirt, meat, blah blah blah.

Not actually treated like dirt, obviously. Because that would be rather unpleasant. Just deep enough to get off on it.

And you can't do that without thinking that that's what women are for.

Hence the absolute raging fucking misogyny. And, of course, the further use of women by demanding access to their spaces.

And I don't care if there's a man out there who claims it's not sexually motivated. It's one hundred percent misogyny motivated.

SwirlyGates · 03/04/2026 11:26

hahabahbag · 03/04/2026 10:15

Honestly it varies! Do any of you know trans people or cross dressers? Well I do and each is an individual with different motivations and it’s more diverse than this article. The guy down the road likes the feel of women’s clothing, he knows he isn’t a woman but prefers to dress as one. His name was unisex to begin with. My nephew is full trans he knew he felt different as a toddler and didn’t have words for it, 20 years before any of the current trends began. DD’s friend knew they felt different but was thrown out by intolerant parents aged 16, they now live as a woman but are quiet and don’t push boundaries,

In the words of Germaine Greer, "I don't care." They are still male.

Yes, I do know (male) trans people. I can mostly ignore the disconnect until one of the group says "she" or "woman," which sounds frankly rather ridiculous.

Crwysmam · 03/04/2026 11:27

Smartiepants79 · 03/04/2026 10:49

Does anyone personally know of a ‘trans’ man who chooses to dress like your average women in the street? Like jeans and a jumper, leggings and a hoodie, chinos and shirts??
Weirdly this was something I was wondering about recently.

Edited

Yes I know of one.They decided to transition after a medical discharge from the forces after suffering severe PTSD after the Gulf war. I think you can work out why being a woman may be a reaction. They wear their hair long but dress in jeans and a T-shirt.

I also have a very old friend who was a transvestite/cross dresser. He was open about his fetish but now finds it a difficult lifestyle since he doesn’t relate to transgenderism and does not think he is a woman. He just enjoys dressing up in leather and latex women’s clothing. He is happy to keep his fetish private and was involved in the fetish community. In normal life he presents as a perfectly normal man.

Silverbirchleaf · 03/04/2026 11:31

Smartiepants79 · 03/04/2026 10:49

Does anyone personally know of a ‘trans’ man who chooses to dress like your average women in the street? Like jeans and a jumper, leggings and a hoodie, chinos and shirts??
Weirdly this was something I was wondering about recently.

Edited

Good point.

Also, back in the 80s, men wore eyeliner, flouncy shirts etc, and looked effeminate, but still knew they were men. And most women live in trousers nowadays.

SockPlant · 03/04/2026 11:32

Smartiepants79 · 03/04/2026 10:49

Does anyone personally know of a ‘trans’ man who chooses to dress like your average women in the street? Like jeans and a jumper, leggings and a hoodie, chinos and shirts??
Weirdly this was something I was wondering about recently.

Edited

tbh i am sure there are some who genuinely have dysphoria and do try to dress and behave as the average woman in the street.

Unfortunately for this tiny number of people their existence has been hijacked and mutilated beyond recognition so they are (nearly) as much victims of current TRA behaviouir as women.

I cannot think myself into their position, i know i'm a woman (painful periods, giving birth and an awful meonpause) but i don't think about it consciously and i do tend to live in sweatpants, band shirts and go about my day like that.

MoistVonL · 03/04/2026 11:33

JennyShaw · 03/04/2026 09:45

I don't feel sorry for his wife. She is Kristi Noem, a conservative politician, and she has opposed gay marriage.

She might be a horror, but I still pity her for having an AGP husband

Laoumi · 03/04/2026 11:35

Women: dressing as men. What motivates them?

Don't be a hypocrite now. Stop wearing jeans, trousers, t-shirts, etc right this instant if you want to practise what you preach.

SockPlant · 03/04/2026 11:35

RNApolymerase · 03/04/2026 10:55

It's odd this. My son and his girlfriend, currently at university, very TWAW, JKR is evil, etc. etc. were laughing at Kristi Noem's husband. Maybe because she's a right wing US politician? Maybe if he'd been, for example, a Democrat who liked stealing luggage they'd not have mocked?
It seems like they are putting him in a completely different category. But, when it comes to things like who gets access to women's stuff - how do you differentiate between "TWAW" and Mr Noem? It seems to me that you can't.

imo this is the (transphobic) "TruTrans" argument.

As we keep saying: if you claim TWAW you have to accept them ALL. Every single one of them. And since drag and crossdressing has been subsumed into being a "trans identity" they can't just reject them for being republican or whatever.

I despise Kristi Noam but she didn't and doesn't deserve this to happen to her. Nobody does. She is still an utter cunt though.

OldCrone · 03/04/2026 11:38

Theeyeballsinthesky · 03/04/2026 09:53

It's one of the many strange things about this ideology, that societal memory seems to have disappeared

when I was growing up we all knew that generally men wore women's clothes because bluntly it turned them on and yet somehow society has been persuaded that that was never the case...

This is a good thread about how society seems to have forgotten what we all used to know, and it's all happened in the last 10 years or so.

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beadystar · 03/04/2026 11:40

Smartiepants79 · 03/04/2026 10:49

Does anyone personally know of a ‘trans’ man who chooses to dress like your average women in the street? Like jeans and a jumper, leggings and a hoodie, chinos and shirts??
Weirdly this was something I was wondering about recently.

Edited

Yes I knew one. Older, would be late fifties if they’d lived. This was genuine gender dysphoria rather than a kink. Just usually wore jeans and a top, normal shoes, a simple haircut and a touch of foundation powder. A far cry from the one in my neighbourhood who goes to the shops in a micro mini, fishnets, heels, boob tube, bucket of shit makeup and a long blonde wig.

UpTheWomen · 03/04/2026 11:41

JeopardyLeopardy · 03/04/2026 10:55

I wonder what the guy down the road means when he says he prefers the feel of women's clothing? I don't think he means jeans and tracksuits.

Quite. And I wonder how this ‘liking’ manifests itself? Because in many instances, it’s as an erection.

NebulousSadTimes · 03/04/2026 11:43

tbh i am sure there are some who genuinely have dysphoria

I suspect that for most, especially youngsters, dysphoria was a thing that was groomed into them. They felt bad about something, not necessarily knowing what, went looking for answers or help and were guided towards feeling dysphoric and trans being the answer to their problems.

Who had heard of dysphoria before all this came along? Even people who are 'be kind' and certainly more up to date than me tried to correct me by saying "It's dysmorphia!".

TomatoSandwiches · 03/04/2026 11:44

hahabahbag · 03/04/2026 10:15

Honestly it varies! Do any of you know trans people or cross dressers? Well I do and each is an individual with different motivations and it’s more diverse than this article. The guy down the road likes the feel of women’s clothing, he knows he isn’t a woman but prefers to dress as one. His name was unisex to begin with. My nephew is full trans he knew he felt different as a toddler and didn’t have words for it, 20 years before any of the current trends began. DD’s friend knew they felt different but was thrown out by intolerant parents aged 16, they now live as a woman but are quiet and don’t push boundaries,

Please tell me how one " lives as a woman "

PrettyDamnCosmic · 03/04/2026 11:49

Shortshriftandlethal · 03/04/2026 09:55

I think that even the homosexual female impersonators are motivated by sex; by wanting to be fancied by men; especially by straight men. The female presentations are often no less sexualised than those of the heterosexual AGP.

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Consultant psychiatrist Dr Az Hakeem reckons there is a sexual element motivating all trans identifying males. How could there not be?

EmpressaurusKitty · 03/04/2026 11:50

Ultimately I’m not too bothered about what motivates them as long as they stay out of women’s toilets & changing rooms.

OldCrone · 03/04/2026 11:51

NebulousSadTimes · 03/04/2026 11:43

tbh i am sure there are some who genuinely have dysphoria

I suspect that for most, especially youngsters, dysphoria was a thing that was groomed into them. They felt bad about something, not necessarily knowing what, went looking for answers or help and were guided towards feeling dysphoric and trans being the answer to their problems.

Who had heard of dysphoria before all this came along? Even people who are 'be kind' and certainly more up to date than me tried to correct me by saying "It's dysmorphia!".

'Trans children' were invented as a human shield for sexually motivated male adult transsexuals and transvestites.

ThatBlackCat · 03/04/2026 11:52

hahabahbag · 03/04/2026 10:15

Honestly it varies! Do any of you know trans people or cross dressers? Well I do and each is an individual with different motivations and it’s more diverse than this article. The guy down the road likes the feel of women’s clothing, he knows he isn’t a woman but prefers to dress as one. His name was unisex to begin with. My nephew is full trans he knew he felt different as a toddler and didn’t have words for it, 20 years before any of the current trends began. DD’s friend knew they felt different but was thrown out by intolerant parents aged 16, they now live as a woman but are quiet and don’t push boundaries,

Oh the old 'do any of you know any trans people?' trope?

Most of us on here do and have experience of them. It's the fastest way to turn 'terf' (or merf as I prefer). In fact, I sometimes think the only people who defend them are those who have never ever met or had any experience with any, or are trans themselves.

Men dressing as women; what really motivates them.
JumpingPumpkin · 03/04/2026 11:55

I do not care why men dress up "as women", what difference does it make to me if it's a fetish, if it's due to a strict upbringing, if it's confusion about their sexuality or a delusional belief that they were born in the wrong body?

It makes no difference what their motivation is, the important thing is that they are recognised as men who do not belong in women's single sex spaces.

Shortshriftandlethal · 03/04/2026 11:58

beadystar · 03/04/2026 11:40

Yes I knew one. Older, would be late fifties if they’d lived. This was genuine gender dysphoria rather than a kink. Just usually wore jeans and a top, normal shoes, a simple haircut and a touch of foundation powder. A far cry from the one in my neighbourhood who goes to the shops in a micro mini, fishnets, heels, boob tube, bucket of shit makeup and a long blonde wig.

Feeling ill at ease or deeply uncomfortable in one's sexed body has now been rebranded as 'gender dysphoria'; though I suspect many nascently gay children, and other non conformists, have always felt ill at ease and uncomfortable in their bodies and/or with the expectations of their sex. Especially if they have a parent who is strongly homophobic or insistent on stereotypical presentations or peformances.

"Just a kink" can have very deep roots. It is not necessarily superficial. It can be deeply felt and have emotional meaning. Grayson Perry wrote about how he started dressing in his mother's clothing at age 4 - and what that meant for him emotionally.....though he also was frank that as he got older it also gave him a "stiffy".