A UK forum is encouraging a desperate parent of a trans identified male to seek out DIY hormones, without consulting health care professionals, how is this dangerous advice legal?

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OP "If anyone could help me to understand, I would be extremely grateful. I just want my daughter to be alive and happy in her own skin as much as possible ."

Responses: "diy is reliable and safe, there are communities that will be able to help, and really all it is getting a blood test every now and then to check how low or high a couple numbers are and adjusting accordingly."

Full details here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/transgenderUK/comments/1rw0bac/please_help_parent_to_a_16_year_old/

How is this even slightly legal? The pro anorexia sites were shut down right? The pro suicide?

I don't make the rules.

You can't be serious?

Katie Dolatowski is a trans woman? You can't mean that, surely.

I’m literally asking you what your rule would be.

I think you'd have to read from that that he doesn't pass in a month of Sundays.

People are who they say they are, Weary.

Again, I don't make the rules. It seems as valid as calling all non-large gamete people men.

It’s very 1984.

You think men should be excluded from women’s toilets but actually you don’t think men should be excluded from women’s toilets, any of them can legitimately gain access by saying some words..

Make that make sense.

Well, Katie Dolatowski's second victim obviously recognised Dolatowski's sexed body cues and knew to punch Katie in the nuts. Thank goodness.

Sorry, desperate to violate women's boundaries and find it funny.

Well, their societies are going to have some interesting problems in the future, then.

I have my beliefs, which are not valid in this space. So I've constructed what seem to be equally ridged assumptions to present as an opposing force. Ta da.

As soon as you say that anyone who claims to be a "trans woman" is one, then you lose what little credibility you have.

It's a tightrope for sure.

You want to be the only one, but you can't provide any criteria, because you won't fit it.

As comes with westernisation as a whole.

I understand your context, thanks. I just find it funny from my reality.

It's just sickening. That young girl should have been safe in that single sex space. She wasn't. But I suppose some people would find that funny.

Well, sexed body cues are those which will be the ones that when someone looks at a male person will indicate they are male. Based on a combination of testosterone exposure, even as a child, to genetics. Those male people who many people use as examples of the success of puberty blockers still retain male sex body cues.

Those male sex body cues come about because of the male body being formed around the production of small gametes. Regardless of whether those small gametes have been produced.

It isn’t rocket science and male sexed body cues do not contradict the categorisation based on having a male body formed around the production of small gametes. They are part of it.

Not sure why you think your post is some kind of gotcha.

I 100% agree. Thank you for your answer.

Synonyms of Valid:

• Legitimate/Legal: Binding, authorized, lawful.
• Sound/Logical: Reasonable, well-founded,cogent, valid argument.
• Effective/Genuine: True, bona fide, authentic, credible

Gender delulus not understanding the meaning of ‘valid’.

Defining a woman as someone who is female rather than male is an unreasonably rigid assumption?

Do I get my choice of synonym now? Is that how it works?

a mumsnet-faith answer would have me answer yes.

When you're a little girl, your mother teaches you to scream if you're attacked. She teaches you to use your elbow, your fist, your knee.

She tells you that if you're in trouble then you should only approach a woman and not a strange man. You don't quite understand why until it happens to you.

And yet we have some people telling us that anyone who claims to be a woman should be accepted as one—which was what led to Tiffany Scott nearly being allowed into the women's prison estate (until the scandal surrounding the Isla Bryson debacle erupted).

We now have Tiffany Scott being lauded as a trans martyr and Paris Green looking for sympathy in the Scottish press. We're well through the looking glass.