A UK forum is encouraging a desperate parent of a trans identified male to seek out DIY hormones, without consulting health care professionals, how is this dangerous advice legal?

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OP "If anyone could help me to understand, I would be extremely grateful. I just want my daughter to be alive and happy in her own skin as much as possible ."

Responses: "diy is reliable and safe, there are communities that will be able to help, and really all it is getting a blood test every now and then to check how low or high a couple numbers are and adjusting accordingly."

Full details here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/transgenderUK/comments/1rw0bac/please_help_parent_to_a_16_year_old/

How is this even slightly legal? The pro anorexia sites were shut down right? The pro suicide?

Indeedy.

A woman's womanhood is based on being a woman, yes.

I agree with him. I always have.
And the answer has NEVER been surgery and cross sex hormones.
It's all such bullshit.

As far back as the '90s I was baffled by the idea of transsexuals.

Why was surgery etc. considered the treatment for an obvious mental health condition? A delusion?
What fuckwit came up with that?

Gender delulus believe in alternate facts

On being female.

You constantly twist what people say. Do you think we can't see it?

So that’s a lot of words to say “no”.

The person who came up with it was a medical expert who had treated hundreds of trans people. Hundreds, then thousands of other medical experts globally repeated the successful treatment for decades.

Trans people continue to receive medical treatment that has been proven to work. It is only the focus of a few to inflate questions and doubt about the successful treatment. Sadly, there seem to be some in the government receptive to this tiny group.

ANY man [claiming to be a transwoman] is not a woman, penis or no penis. Their intention is irrelevant.

ADULT. HUMAN.FEMALE.

As I said, all that matters is the question asker's agenda.

That's what the T-shirt says.

and the DNA

It's way more than a t shirt slogan

I bet you're just frothing as you wait to live in a world where relationships, access to spaces and opportunity are based on what is in everyone's DNA? Or are you content to stop at just this one bit of DNA?

I'm glad I don't live in such a world.

I was the question asker (the question was “Do you care about women and children?”).

Why does my agenda matter?

You, a man, have plopped onto a thread on the women’s rights section of a parenting website. You have steered the conversation away from an innocent, vulnerable, child who needs help to your own fetishes.

Why would you do this? I suppose because you want validation, and whilst you won’t get that here, you are getting buckets of female attention (which you do not deserve).

Your plopping means that a struggling mother and her confused, possibly autistic child, aren’t getting help. Disgusting. You do not care about women and children.

I think she's just waiting to live in a world where male people keep out of female people's stuff.

No one here is concerned with helping trans children. You are collectively focused on preventing trans people, whether you personally identify that as your goal or not.

Do you think men should be allowed in women's toilets, changing rooms and sports?

No restrictions at all on who goes in them?

I know other women have said you don't have a clue, but honestly, you really don't.

There is a woman who posts on here who cannot even be in a space where there is a man behind a closed door. Such is her PTSD, caused by past sexual trauma, that it gets horrifically triggered, and lasts for days. She struggles even being on threads where she knows some of the posters are men. In fact, there are quite a few women here who do.

There's another woman who posts on here who was a victim of Jimmy Savile. Another who was a victim of John Worboys.

Barely a woman posts on here who hasn't had some kind of assault.

Statistically it's about one in five women. So you can imagine the number of women on here, concerned as we are with single sex spaces.

Your attitude is one of supreme entitlement. Not only do you not know what's going on with women, it hasn't even crossed your mind to wonder. Why would it? Being male, the world is built for and around you.

It's the reason why women have to have single sex spaces in the first place.. Not many, not everywhere, just when they're naked, vulnerable, or traumatised, for fuck's sake.

And now you want into those, too. Just to validate your bloody self image.

And Just because you haven't said the exact same words as your fellow transwoman on here, you must still be able to read what they bloody say. That they're going to continue to use women's spaces, whether we like it or not, we can't stop them, and even if people try to enforce it, they will just refuse to leave.

And you don't think that men using women's spaces is a fucking problem ???

Women everywhere are saying no. The bloody Supreme Court has said no.

Have some self-respect for the love of God.

Rule 9 of the Rules of Misogyny:
Men always know the “real reasons” for everything women do and say.

Personally? No, I have nuanced thoughts on all of those topics that cannot be discussed here because nuance is not allowed.

You don't think that men should be allowed into women's spaces?

So you are happy with some 'DNA' being excluded from women's spaces, you just want the line drawn in a different place so that it doesn't involve you being excluded?

Start a thread to discuss them. Be as nuanced as you like. Go on, the floor is yours.

No....?

Also the mind blowing arse wankery of ATranssexualWoman coming on here performing pretend outrage because we claim he's part of the oppressor class, whilst simultaneously asserting he's going to use women's spaces whenever he wants to and no one can stop him.

And not only that, he claims no one at work knows he's a man, thereby confirming that he's more than happy to deceive women in their own toilets and changing rooms, so they are unaware that they are in the presence of a man.

But he's not oppressing anyone!!

And yet, you are male and you continue to use female single sex provisions. You have already been told that female people find this distressing and yet you choose to continue.

Why?

You cannot provide even an attempt at explaining exactly how you are no longer a male person, yet you insist that you are no longer male when it comes to discussing female people’s oppresssion. You have no coherent defence of your claim that you are a woman outside the fact you chose to undergo extreme body modification.

Then you get aggressive to women who say to you that you are actually in no way a woman except that you demand your subjective and constructed reality is treated as if it is material reality when it is not. How is this not an oppressive act ?

No. Your accusation of bad faith arguments is pure projection. All to defend your demand to be treated as if you have somehow materially changed sex while acknowledging that you have not changed sex.

Your own lack of a coherent argument is your own responsibility.