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Joanne cherry writes explosive tell all on the SNP

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Hoardasurass · 09/03/2026 16:23

So joanna cherry has written a new book which is a tell all on how the SNP under Stergeon and Swinney fell for gender ideology and its set to come out just before the election
https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/scottish-news/election-nightmare-john-swinney-joanna-36838766

Election nightmare for SNP as Joanna Cherry vows to 'lift the lid on everything'

The rengade Nat is set to reveal how her party became in thrall to the transgender lobby and ditched its independence campaign

https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/scottish-news/election-nightmare-john-swinney-joanna-36838766

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SirChenjins · 09/07/2026 23:18

WearyAuldWumman · 09/07/2026 23:15

"God's country!" as DH used to say. (He was a Crathie loon.)

Lovely part!

Waitwhat23 · 09/07/2026 23:18

ArabellaScott · 09/07/2026 23:00

I love Doric. It's a right shame it's falling out of usage.

It is a shame. I (rather predictably) know only 'fit like?'. Would love to know more.

(I didn't see the deleted posts with the controversial word but wouldn't be able to comment anyway)

SirChenjins · 09/07/2026 23:22

Waitwhat23 · 09/07/2026 23:18

It is a shame. I (rather predictably) know only 'fit like?'. Would love to know more.

(I didn't see the deleted posts with the controversial word but wouldn't be able to comment anyway)

It wasn't controversial if you know Doric (I grew up hearing it spoken) but MN must have decided its other meaning was offensive. Shame, it's a lovely dialect of Scots.

WearyAuldWumman · 09/07/2026 23:24

Waitwhat23 · 09/07/2026 23:18

It is a shame. I (rather predictably) know only 'fit like?'. Would love to know more.

(I didn't see the deleted posts with the controversial word but wouldn't be able to comment anyway)

I'd like to think of myself as bilingual, but some bits of Doric do defeat me.

I can remember the "Fit like?" response, however: "Chavvin awa!"

I recall we bumped into one of DH's old classmates in Ballater one time:

"Far ye bidin noo?"

"Fife."

"Fit ye daein there?"

"Teachin."

"Teachin?! Bit you were nivver very clever at the squeal!" [I have no idea of the correct Doric spelling."]

For those in need of a Doric injection:

ETA A click will take you through to Youtube. Worth watching, in my view, although I notice that the subtitle app is having a nervous breakdown.

WearyAuldWumman · 09/07/2026 23:29

As an aside, the Ballater toy shop did actually sell cuddly futtrets at one point.

SirChenjins · 09/07/2026 23:34

WearyAuldWumman · 09/07/2026 23:24

I'd like to think of myself as bilingual, but some bits of Doric do defeat me.

I can remember the "Fit like?" response, however: "Chavvin awa!"

I recall we bumped into one of DH's old classmates in Ballater one time:

"Far ye bidin noo?"

"Fife."

"Fit ye daein there?"

"Teachin."

"Teachin?! Bit you were nivver very clever at the squeal!" [I have no idea of the correct Doric spelling."]

For those in need of a Doric injection:

ETA A click will take you through to Youtube. Worth watching, in my view, although I notice that the subtitle app is having a nervous breakdown.

Edited

Chavin' awa - or chavin' if you were only just getting by!

RapidOnsetGenderCritic · 09/07/2026 23:39

Heggettypeg · 09/07/2026 23:10

I don't know why you got deleted, @RapidOnsetGenderCritic ! It disappeared as I was replying to say that if you are in the UK, you might like to Google Great Northern Divers. There are also Red- throated and Grey-throated.

Perhaps the moderators wanted me to be more comprehensive or accurate in my ornithological assertions.

SirChenjins · 09/07/2026 23:39

WearyAuldWumman · 09/07/2026 23:29

As an aside, the Ballater toy shop did actually sell cuddly futtrets at one point.

Tell me they weren't real?!

The Ballater Arms has gone posh - we used to stop in there on the way back from Glenshee skiing, don't think they'd have us now! A certain Australian actor has bought a house up there - very fancy.

WearyAuldWumman · 10/07/2026 00:04

SirChenjins · 09/07/2026 23:39

Tell me they weren't real?!

The Ballater Arms has gone posh - we used to stop in there on the way back from Glenshee skiing, don't think they'd have us now! A certain Australian actor has bought a house up there - very fancy.

The toy shop responded to visitor demand, I was told - people came looking for them, thanks to the sketch. The original toy shop's no longer there, though - it was combined with the newsagent's and there were no futtrets for sale the last time I looked.

It's all getting very confusing. Various places have changed their name. The Loirston was posh when DH was a bairn, but then became much less so. Then it was taken over by...[name escapes me - Irish firm] and became The Deeside Inn. (I recall DH's horror when they put the cutlery in old syrup tins in order to follow some kind of upmarket trend). Then it became the Balmoral something , but there are two other Balmoral somethings that had the name first.

Apparently, the really posh place is now the Fife Arms in Braemar - they've been getting Judy Dench and all the A-listers staying there. We sometimes stopped there for a coffee, but it's a bit rich for me now.

Our retirement holiday plan had been a static caravan in Ballater, but the deluge put paid to that idea.

I'm not sure whether Byzantium is still open in Ballater? At one point, the 'vintage' section was selling shabby working class houseware to middle-class visitors for silly money. They were selling empty shortbread tins for 20 quid a time.

Igneococcus · 10/07/2026 06:03

RapidOnsetGenderCritic · 09/07/2026 23:39

Perhaps the moderators wanted me to be more comprehensive or accurate in my ornithological assertions.

I was just about to tell you that there are loons (the birds) in the Northern hemisphere when your post got deleted. There is a pair of red throated loons raising chicks on a little lochan not far from my house.

SirChenjins · 10/07/2026 09:36

I'm feeling very nostalgic now @WearyAuldWumman ! Yes, Byzantium is still there and the Deeside Inn is now the Balmoral Arms Hotel. I'm also delighted to report that Dee Valley Confectioners is still there - much loved shop from my childhood. The Monaltrie is now flats - DS and I stayed there a couple of years ago on holiday. Further along, the Potarch Hotel (one of my faves years ago and beside the place we would go as teenagers to pose by the river) is now the Potarch Cafe and Restaurant. So many lovely places up there - I feel a holiday coming on actually.

lcakethereforeIam · 10/07/2026 09:53

I see 'Deeside', I think Cheshire, 'Doric' has me thinking of columns 😁 but even I've heard of Wings and Joanne Cherry.

ArabellaScott · 10/07/2026 11:48

Waitwhat23 · 09/07/2026 23:18

It is a shame. I (rather predictably) know only 'fit like?'. Would love to know more.

(I didn't see the deleted posts with the controversial word but wouldn't be able to comment anyway)

To my mind/ear its as much about the lovely thick accent, and sound and breath patterns as individual words. More in the front of the mouth and with tighter cheeks than Glasgow. But looser lipped than Edinburgh.

BezMills · 10/07/2026 14:15

The loddie on his first day at the cobblers, looking at the left and right lasts for making shoes (shaen in fife).

"Bit fit fit fits fit fit though?"

Differentforgirls · 10/07/2026 15:01

RapidOnsetGenderCritic · 09/07/2026 21:42

A loon is a seabird, common in parts of the southern hemisphere I think.

Aye sure pal. So they were calling a male, gay politician a seabird?

Differentforgirls · 10/07/2026 15:02

RapidOnsetGenderCritic · 09/07/2026 21:42

A loon is a seabird, common in parts of the southern hemisphere I think.

Do you actually feel comfortable with that deflection? About a gay male politician?

Differentforgirls · 10/07/2026 15:05

lcakethereforeIam · 10/07/2026 09:53

I see 'Deeside', I think Cheshire, 'Doric' has me thinking of columns 😁 but even I've heard of Wings and Joanne Cherry.

I wonder why? Could it be because they post all day, every day about trans women?

Joanna does a peculiar thing. She always posts about "Woman and Lesbians" as if they are two different things.

Is she saying that lesbians can be male so she has to seperate them?

BezMills · 10/07/2026 15:20

I like to imagine a circle of cousin dialects on the North Sea coastal regions , spanning the modern day countries. I was amazed when learning Dutch how many of our dialect words mapped closely or exactly.

I'm fairly convinced my maternal grandad would be able to have a conversation with a Dutchman or Dane of his generation from the respective coasts (efter three or fower pints doon his thrapple).

Ironically, as we've all drifted towards the more cosmopolitan twangs of our respective moeities, we are losing our ability to converse with our cousins fae o'or the watter.

Differentforgirls · 10/07/2026 15:32

Well at least I have witnessed a reform/restore thread.

ArabellaScott · 10/07/2026 15:39

WearyAuldWumman · 09/07/2026 23:24

I'd like to think of myself as bilingual, but some bits of Doric do defeat me.

I can remember the "Fit like?" response, however: "Chavvin awa!"

I recall we bumped into one of DH's old classmates in Ballater one time:

"Far ye bidin noo?"

"Fife."

"Fit ye daein there?"

"Teachin."

"Teachin?! Bit you were nivver very clever at the squeal!" [I have no idea of the correct Doric spelling."]

For those in need of a Doric injection:

ETA A click will take you through to Youtube. Worth watching, in my view, although I notice that the subtitle app is having a nervous breakdown.

Edited

'Foos yer doos' was well loved.

['How are your pigeons']

Tallisker · 10/07/2026 15:39

Is quine the opposite?

Tallisker · 10/07/2026 15:40

I like ‘furry boots’ country too ☺️

ArabellaScott · 10/07/2026 15:45

BezMills · 10/07/2026 15:20

I like to imagine a circle of cousin dialects on the North Sea coastal regions , spanning the modern day countries. I was amazed when learning Dutch how many of our dialect words mapped closely or exactly.

I'm fairly convinced my maternal grandad would be able to have a conversation with a Dutchman or Dane of his generation from the respective coasts (efter three or fower pints doon his thrapple).

Ironically, as we've all drifted towards the more cosmopolitan twangs of our respective moeities, we are losing our ability to converse with our cousins fae o'or the watter.

Friesian is supposed to be relatively easy for English speakers to understand, though. And maps to Dutch. There is a good flowchart of linguistic evolution in this video.

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Enjoy the videos and music that you love, upload original content and share it all with friends, family and the world on YouTube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYT81r6_Vrc

lcakethereforeIam · 10/07/2026 15:48

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ArabellaScott · 10/07/2026 15:52

Tallisker · 10/07/2026 15:39

Is quine the opposite?

Yes. Quine is girl. And woman is 'wifie' and man is 'mannie'.

(Quine comes from 'queen', I think)