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Joanne cherry writes explosive tell all on the SNP

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Hoardasurass · 09/03/2026 16:23

So joanna cherry has written a new book which is a tell all on how the SNP under Stergeon and Swinney fell for gender ideology and its set to come out just before the election
https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/scottish-news/election-nightmare-john-swinney-joanna-36838766

Election nightmare for SNP as Joanna Cherry vows to 'lift the lid on everything'

The rengade Nat is set to reveal how her party became in thrall to the transgender lobby and ditched its independence campaign

https://www.scottishdailyexpress.co.uk/news/scottish-news/election-nightmare-john-swinney-joanna-36838766

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SirChenjins · 09/07/2026 18:50

WearyAuldWumman · 09/07/2026 18:29

Oh good grief. How on earth could I forget about the Scottish Greens?! He's still at Holyrood, but no longer co-leader

Add him to the pile - the Greens and the MRLP can compete for the top loon position.

ArabellaScott · 09/07/2026 19:14

Differentforgirls · 09/07/2026 17:00

Your feminism is top tier. On here anyway…

You think feminism means we cant criticise politicians if they're female. Amazing.

Differentforgirls · 09/07/2026 19:21

ArabellaScott · 09/07/2026 19:14

You think feminism means we cant criticise politicians if they're female. Amazing.

Where did I say that?

I criticise Thatcher.

Most feminists in Scotland criticise JC.

Hence she was rejected by the electorate. She couldn’t even get local activists to canvas for her. She had to ship in GCs from other areas.

As you know, that didn’t go well.

Differentforgirls · 09/07/2026 19:28

However, I criticise Thatchers policies. I don’t mention the whole debacle about her son, husband or daughter.

ArabellaScott · 09/07/2026 19:50

'Most feminists in Scotland criticise JC.'

Havering.

Differentforgirls · 09/07/2026 20:11

ArabellaScott · 09/07/2026 19:50

'Most feminists in Scotland criticise JC.'

Havering.

I’m not havering.

Maybe I should have said most SNP/SGP/Scottish Labour and Scottish Lib Dem feminists? The majority. Party members, voters and canvassers.

If she is as respected as you think, why did she get rejected by the electorate?

If you speak to a person who isn’t into politics and say names like “Wings”, “Craig Murray” “Eva Comrie” or “Joanna Cherry”, they’ll say “who?”

But they all know Nicola, Alex, Stephen Flynn, John Swinney, Humza, Anas Sarwar, wee Willie Rennie and Douglas Ross.

Most will also remember Kezia and Ruth.

Which is why my first post on here was “ nobody is interested”. Which was a bit much as you all are obviously, but the man/woman on the street don’t have a clue who she is.

ArabellaScott · 09/07/2026 20:13

People who are interested in politics, aware, and informed, agree with the women on here, but the average clueless man in the street barely even bothers his arse to vote, correct.

Differentforgirls · 09/07/2026 20:14

ArabellaScott · 09/07/2026 20:13

People who are interested in politics, aware, and informed, agree with the women on here, but the average clueless man in the street barely even bothers his arse to vote, correct.

I hate to break this to you, but the majority of the population don’t even know mumsnet exists.

ArabellaScott · 09/07/2026 20:16

Correct. What's your point?

Differentforgirls · 09/07/2026 20:18

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Differentforgirls · 09/07/2026 20:23

SirChenjins · 09/07/2026 18:50

Add him to the pile - the Greens and the MRLP can compete for the top loon position.

Edited

“Loon” is an awful term. Reminiscent of the poor souls put in a “looney bin” where people went to point and laugh at them as if it was a human zoo.

KittyWilkinson · 09/07/2026 20:24

A bit like the population of Reddit then...

Differentforgirls · 09/07/2026 20:27

KittyWilkinson · 09/07/2026 20:24

A bit like the population of Reddit then...

I wouldn’t know. This is the only forum I’m on. First was DS back in the day then all the ones where people took the huff and created their own forums.

RapidOnsetGenderCritic · 09/07/2026 21:42

Differentforgirls · 09/07/2026 20:23

“Loon” is an awful term. Reminiscent of the poor souls put in a “looney bin” where people went to point and laugh at them as if it was a human zoo.

A loon is a seabird, common in parts of the southern hemisphere I think.

RoundedRobin · 09/07/2026 22:26

FranticFrankie · 09/03/2026 22:19

I could only think of the Joe Jackson song

Me too!

WearyAuldWumman · 09/07/2026 22:43

I hesitate to type this, given the number of deletions. I didn't see the original comments, but it's also a perfectly benign word in Doric Scots. I have seen it causing consternation in the central belt of Scotland, however, since it's frequently misunderstood. (My late husband spoke Doric.). The meaning in the central belt is slightly different, but nothing like the meaning in Standard English.

I've actually seen it inscribed on a long-service medal, given as part of a retirement gift in the late '90s.

The various Scots dictionaries available online have a plethora of examples.

The Doric is dying out, but I'd say that it's a term that is still well used by Aberdeenshire folk over the age of 40.

Anyway, back on topic.

It's certainly the case that in the heady days after IndyRef many more independent supporters joined the SNP. Since then, numbers have plummeted - and that happened while NS was leader of the party: to my mind, that was a clear rejection of her leadership. I can't find the current figures, but she lost more than 50,000 members between 2018 and 2023. The party lost around another 15 thousand by the end of '24.

People have been well aware of the failure to keep proper account of party funds. I'd say that there's been disillusionment around that, the shame of violent men being allowed into the women's prison estate and the farce of the party seeming to sit back in spite of the promise that Scotland would not be dragged out of the EU against its will.

Had Murrell's trial gone ahead sooner rather than later, I think that we'd be looking at lower numbers of SNP MSPs in parliament today. I don't know how the party is going to come back from this.

ArabellaScott · 09/07/2026 23:00

Crikey, what happened?!

Episode 4 Zombie GIF by The Simpsons
ArabellaScott · 09/07/2026 23:00

I love Doric. It's a right shame it's falling out of usage.

WearyAuldWumman · 09/07/2026 23:07

ArabellaScott · 09/07/2026 23:00

I love Doric. It's a right shame it's falling out of usage.

Aye. Last time I was up in Ballater, all the youngsters sounded as though they came from Edinburgh. I blame it on them losing Ballater school's secondary department and being sent to Aboyne which has a large number of incomers thanks to the oil industry.

Outside work, my husband used to speak Doric as a point of honour. Whenever anyone asked him what he was doing in Fife, he'd answer 'Missionary work!'

Waitwhat23 · 09/07/2026 23:07

Differentforgirls · 09/07/2026 20:11

I’m not havering.

Maybe I should have said most SNP/SGP/Scottish Labour and Scottish Lib Dem feminists? The majority. Party members, voters and canvassers.

If she is as respected as you think, why did she get rejected by the electorate?

If you speak to a person who isn’t into politics and say names like “Wings”, “Craig Murray” “Eva Comrie” or “Joanna Cherry”, they’ll say “who?”

But they all know Nicola, Alex, Stephen Flynn, John Swinney, Humza, Anas Sarwar, wee Willie Rennie and Douglas Ross.

Most will also remember Kezia and Ruth.

Which is why my first post on here was “ nobody is interested”. Which was a bit much as you all are obviously, but the man/woman on the street don’t have a clue who she is.

Edited

I dare say Craig and Eva may not be particularly well known apart from to particularly politically minded people, but as for your claims regarding Wings, what pish.

From yesterday -

www.thenational.scot/news/26262311.snp-face-group-legal-action-600k-ring-fenced-indyref2/

https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/26260796.snp-independence-fund-court-case-launched-donations/

Your similar pish claim in regards to Joanna has already been thoroughly refuted previously on this thread.

Why do you continue to claim such utter pish when it is clearly not true?

www.scotsman.com/news/politics/snp-independence-referendum-ring-fenced-fund-wings-over-scotland-8784190

news.sky.com/story/operation-branchform-timeline-the-downfall-of-ex-snp-chief-executive-peter-murrell-13546737

SNP faces court action from donors demanding repayment of independence funds

The SNP faces a legal challenge at the Court of Session as independence donors launch group proceedings. Activists argue that…

https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/26260796.snp-independence-fund-court-case-launched-donations/

Heggettypeg · 09/07/2026 23:10

I don't know why you got deleted, @RapidOnsetGenderCritic ! It disappeared as I was replying to say that if you are in the UK, you might like to Google Great Northern Divers. There are also Red- throated and Grey-throated.

SirChenjins · 09/07/2026 23:13

WearyAuldWumman · 09/07/2026 23:07

Aye. Last time I was up in Ballater, all the youngsters sounded as though they came from Edinburgh. I blame it on them losing Ballater school's secondary department and being sent to Aboyne which has a large number of incomers thanks to the oil industry.

Outside work, my husband used to speak Doric as a point of honour. Whenever anyone asked him what he was doing in Fife, he'd answer 'Missionary work!'

I'm from up there - lived on Deeside for many years, it's beautiful 😊

WearyAuldWumman · 09/07/2026 23:14

My late husband and I were both members. I do find myself wondering what was done with our membership fees.

I genuinely cannot remember whether I contributed to the separate 'ring-fenced' fund.

Before I'm accused of speaking baloney, I'll explain that DH died during lockdown - it wasn't Covid, but the way that things were handled made the death much more traumatic than it should have been and I have gaps in my memory.

I did write to my then SNP MP, Peter Grant, and got an immediate reply from him. He actually raised my experience during Prime Minister's Question Time.

I actually had to pick up some documentation from a solicitor today and I have no memory of signing it - though it's clear to me that it's my signature at the top.

WearyAuldWumman · 09/07/2026 23:15

SirChenjins · 09/07/2026 23:13

I'm from up there - lived on Deeside for many years, it's beautiful 😊

"God's country!" as DH used to say. (He was a Crathie loon.)