GLP v EHRC judgement is coming tomorrow

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Listing in the Administrative Court for tomorrow not before 11am: read out of the judgment in our challenge to the EHRC Interim Guidance.

https://bsky.app/profile/goodlawproject.org/post/3meo6ow7ow22k

She’s brilliant. ❤️

Not in some peoples minds.

Below the school is saying some TIM may be allowed into the girls areas not that the school had decided that as a policy any TIM who wants to may use the girls areas

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/5488835-to-ask-for-parents-in-brighton-who-would-object-to-males-being-in-their-daughter-changing-room-without-even-their-knowledge-to-come-forward-and-help-with-this-legal-case

From Reddit, I think a user was decrying how unfair it is that cis folk are protected from sharing toilets with people of the opposite chromosomes, but a third space toilet would mean trans folk are forced to share toilets with people of the opposite chromosomes.

When the penny drops but it keeps on dropping...

I think this comes under the judge's comments about logic that goes beyond all normal and rational limits.

For those not on X (pic should load soon)

Yes, impressed by Dollz here and in other debates. Clear, accurate, largely empathetic - and rather brave to go against the grain with simple but uncomfortable truths. It does throw a rather damning light on the majority of posters with whom they engage, though.

Their familiarity with the truth is rather suspect.

They are like movie promotional posters that quote a Times review of "it is incredible that anyone would write such bilge, never mind film it,' as "INCREDIBLE - The Times"

Exactly. They would have the choice: either the toilets of their sex or mixed sex ones. Not special “trans woman” “trans man” and “genderqueer” ones.

Someone with a reddit account PM him and ask him to comment ;)

The guidance (when the final one is finally eventually passed by parliament) will have to be in Peter and Jane type single syllable short sentences, with pictures, and probably interpretive dance, to avoid it being grabbed, misunderstood and twisted in all possible directions.

Ha, that wouldn't be me. Not a Redditor nor never will be (don't worry about unravelling the double negatives; just used for tautologically emphatic emphasis! 😃).

From Reddit, I think a user was decrying how unfair it is that cis folk are protected from sharing toilets with people of the opposite chromosomes, but a third space toilet would mean trans folk are forced to share toilets with people of the opposite chromosomes.

I thought all trans folx were one big happy family. What happened to solidarity within the trans community?

Why on earth would they object to sharing toilets with people of the opposite chromosomes? Chromosomes don't matter anyway, it's feelz that are paramount.

I do have my doubts about PTD. He seems far too level headed and sensible to truly espouse the beliefs he purports to.

I would personally love him to come and debate here - maybe we would actually get an honest, intellectual debate for a change?

Let’s hope you’re right…

Plus a recommndation that OT provide an inspection diagram and/or GP referals

Well, they're wrong.

That is such an important point yet is so often misunderstood or misrepresented. Do you have a source for it?

I'm sure I recall JM crowing so much about his 'win' of a previous case that the judge actually had to publicly say ' no, Mr Maugham - you lost'. Anyone else remember that?

INAL but, as I understand it, JM is still registered as a barrister even if not practising. You generally have to be removed from professional registers, you can't remove yourself. Please correct me if that's not so. My point is if he is still a barrister then surely his (wilful?) misinterpretations of several judgments now could be considered bringing the profession into disrepute?

Ah, Peter and Jane. 😍

Here is a toilet. It is a male toilet. It is Peter's toilet.

Here is another toilet. It is a female toilet. It is Jane's toilet.

Peter goes into his toilet.

Jane goes into her toilet.

Peter does not go into Jane's toilet.

Jane does not go into Peter's toilet.

Peter is happy. Jane is happy.

Here is another toilet. It is very small. It has its own basin. It has its own taps. It has its own door. The door locks. It is a good toilet.

This toilet is for everyone.

Here is Jolyon.

He is unhappy.

I think that was in the original SC judgment.....I'll try and see if i can locate it. I recall feeling relieved when I read and understood that.

The GLP have done us a massive favour. Thanks Jolyon ☺️ They have helped to clarify the law (that was already clarified 🙃) and now they will have to pay the EHRC's costs. Oh dear. Great use of all those donations.

Baroness Faulkner on X:

"The Court held that the Interim Update contained an “accurate statement of the law without misstatement or material omission” and complied within the EHRC’s statutory duties, and that the legislation on which it was based, properly interpreted, was compatible with human rights".

Meanwhile over on Bluesky?!?!? This is ons of the GLP’s lawyers I believe. How can they have misread the judgement so badly?!

Oh absolutely, it has buried the decisions in Croft, Kelly and Peggie in one go. Thanks Jolyon.

I am pleased for Baroness Faulkner.

Don’t forget Maugham has inserted his shitshow into that case too.

I'm so delighted.

Thank you to Baroness Faulkner too!