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GLP v EHRC judgement is coming tomorrow

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DownhillTeaTray · 12/02/2026 14:44

Listing in the Administrative Court for tomorrow not before 11am: read out of the judgment in our challenge to the EHRC Interim Guidance.

https://bsky.app/profile/goodlawproject.org/post/3meo6ow7ow22k

Jolyon Maugham KC (@goodlawproject.org)

Listing in the Administrative Court for tomorrow not before 11am: read out of the judgment in our challenge to the EHRC Interim Guidance.

https://bsky.app/profile/goodlawproject.org/post/3meo6ow7ow22k

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EasternStandard · 13/02/2026 12:21

ItsCoolForCats · 13/02/2026 12:18

Baroness Faulkner on X:

"The Court held that the Interim Update contained an “accurate statement of the law without misstatement or material omission” and complied within the EHRC’s statutory duties, and that the legislation on which it was based, properly interpreted, was compatible with human rights".

Good.

Wtf with the spinners and fabricators.

OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 13/02/2026 12:22

Lilyfreedom · 13/02/2026 12:20

Oh absolutely, it has buried the decisions in Croft, Kelly and Peggie in one go. Thanks Jolyon.

I am pleased for Baroness Faulkner.

Any insights on how this may affect or inform SP's appeal against the Kemp judgment?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 13/02/2026 12:22

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 13/02/2026 12:19

Meanwhile over on Bluesky?!?!? This is ons of the GLP’s lawyers I believe. How can they have misread the judgement so badly?!

Can anyone point out, in summarily dismissing this legal challenge, at what point the judge was “clear” that the EHRC would need to rewrite the code?

ItsCoolForCats · 13/02/2026 12:24

Can we expect a statement from the government, given that they intervened in the case?

SidewaysOtter · 13/02/2026 12:25

Chersfrozenface · 13/02/2026 12:12

From Reddit, I think a user was decrying how unfair it is that cis folk are protected from sharing toilets with people of the opposite chromosomes, but a third space toilet would mean trans folk are forced to share toilets with people of the opposite chromosomes.

I thought all trans folx were one big happy family. What happened to solidarity within the trans community?

Why on earth would they object to sharing toilets with people of the opposite chromosomes? Chromosomes don't matter anyway, it's feelz that are paramount.

Quite, I've always heard that all trans folx are lovely and kind and never ever a problem to anyone else (which would potentially explain the complete lack of reference to the Canada mass shooter). So why can't they all be in a bathroom together? Or is it shades of the sporting competition where a parent said it was, of course, brilliant that there was a trans category but perhaps it should be divided into AFAB and AMAB to make it fairer?

Aside from anything else, what's making me angry about this is that a lot of GLP's followers/supporters are quite vulnerable kids. The ethics of them being lied to is off the fucking scale.

Shortshriftandlethal · 13/02/2026 12:25

Shortshriftandlethal · 13/02/2026 12:16

I think that was in the original SC judgment.....I'll try and see if i can locate it. I recall feeling relieved when I read and understood that.

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“provided it is proportionate, the female only nature of the service would engage paragraph 27 [of Schedule 3] and would permit the exclusion of all males including males living in the female gender regardless of GRC status.”

"There is nothing in the judgment that suggests that the question of what is “proportionate” is a question to be negotiated on a case-by-case basis with individuals; rather it relates to whether the rule is lawful.

The judgment describes how service providers offering a single-sex service are also exempt from the prohibition against gender-reassignment discrimination (as long as their conduct is proportionate). For example, a “trans man” (a woman living in the male gender) can be lawfully excluded from a female-only service, without this amounting to gender-reassignment discrimination"

https://sex-matters.org/posts/publications/supreme-court-judgment-summary-and-practical-advice/

Supreme Court judgment: summary and practical advice

The Supreme Court has clarified that “sex” in the Equality Act 2010 means biological sex, male or female. Policies should use this definition. Any policy which relies on some other definition is likely to result in unlawful conduct.  This briefing prov...

https://sex-matters.org/posts/publications/supreme-court-judgment-summary-and-practical-advice/

DrudgeJedd · 13/02/2026 12:27

ItsCoolForCats · 13/02/2026 12:16

The GLP have done us a massive favour. Thanks Jolyon ☺️ They have helped to clarify the law (that was already clarified 🙃) and now they will have to pay the EHRC's costs. Oh dear. Great use of all those donations.

And they're going to appeal then lose even more money.
Let's hope the tickets for Transmission are selling well.

Just checked, they're offering resale tickets but it's looking very sparsely booked so far. Sad times

ItsCoolForCats · 13/02/2026 12:27

Over on Reddit, someone has commented that HR departments will be sending people for chromosome testing 🤣

EasternStandard · 13/02/2026 12:27

Ereshkigalangcleg · 13/02/2026 12:22

Can anyone point out, in summarily dismissing this legal challenge, at what point the judge was “clear” that the EHRC would need to rewrite the code?

I mean EHRC show no indication of this so come on people get real, why would they

I’m glad I’m not on Reddit, BlueSky or X just reading second hand nonsense here is bad enough!

Shortshriftandlethal · 13/02/2026 12:28

ItsCoolForCats · 13/02/2026 12:24

Can we expect a statement from the government, given that they intervened in the case?

They'll most likelly declare another 10 months of 'consultation' before saying anything. 🤔

Ereshkigalangcleg · 13/02/2026 12:28

DrudgeJedd · 13/02/2026 12:27

And they're going to appeal then lose even more money.
Let's hope the tickets for Transmission are selling well.

Just checked, they're offering resale tickets but it's looking very sparsely booked so far. Sad times

Oh yes I’d forgotten about that 😂

Ereshkigalangcleg · 13/02/2026 12:29

EasternStandard · 13/02/2026 12:27

I mean EHRC show no indication of this so come on people get real, why would they

I’m glad I’m not on Reddit, BlueSky or X just reading second hand nonsense here is bad enough!

It doesn’t even make sense. The judge dismissed the challenge in full. Why would the EHRC have to do anything?

EmpressDomesticatednottamed · 13/02/2026 12:29

Catiette · 13/02/2026 12:15

Ah, Peter and Jane. 😍

Here is a toilet. It is a male toilet. It is Peter's toilet.

Here is another toilet. It is a female toilet. It is Jane's toilet.

Peter goes into his toilet.

Jane goes into her toilet.

Peter does not go into Jane's toilet.

Jane does not go into Peter's toilet.

Peter is happy. Jane is happy.

Here is another toilet. It is very small. It has its own basin. It has its own taps. It has its own door. The door locks. It is a good toilet.

This toilet is for everyone.

Here is Jolyon.

He is unhappy.

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😂😂😂

Ereshkigalangcleg · 13/02/2026 12:30

ItsCoolForCats · 13/02/2026 12:27

Over on Reddit, someone has commented that HR departments will be sending people for chromosome testing 🤣

Better than a genital inspection 😂

EasternStandard · 13/02/2026 12:30

Ereshkigalangcleg · 13/02/2026 12:29

It doesn’t even make sense. The judge dismissed the challenge in full. Why would the EHRC have to do anything?

Exactly that whole office has just said great dismissed that’s over, nothing to change. What do the pundits on SM think they’re doing next? Whatever it is they’ve got it wrong.

Greyskybluesky · 13/02/2026 12:31

I am amused to see (on Reddit) hints of a conspiracy-theory connection between PTD and Mumsnet!

murasaki · 13/02/2026 12:31

Doesn't the fox killer, as a lawyer, have some sort of responsibility to his acolytes, who, let's face it, are predominantly mentally unwell, to not rewrite judgments and lie to them? He's no better than those romance scammers.

teawamutu · 13/02/2026 12:32

Does this mean Phillipson has finally run out of road and has no further reason not to publish the guidance?

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 13/02/2026 12:32

Para 25 is interesting (my emphasis):

^One example is the way in which the protected characteristic of gender reassignment is defined. The protected characteristic is identified by reference to a "process" for the purpose of “... reassigning ... sex by changing physiological or other attributes of sex" (see section 7 of the EA 2010). The protected characteristic is not, therefore, defined by a notion of self-identification. Another example is the suggestion that some of the protected characteristics will "trump" others as if they were in conflict in a zero-sum game. In fact, the provisions in the EA 2010 are more nuanced. The way in which the derogations from section 29 set out at paragraphs 26 - 28 of schedule 3 to the EA 2010 are formulated is a case in point.

teawamutu · 13/02/2026 12:32

Catiette · 13/02/2026 12:15

Ah, Peter and Jane. 😍

Here is a toilet. It is a male toilet. It is Peter's toilet.

Here is another toilet. It is a female toilet. It is Jane's toilet.

Peter goes into his toilet.

Jane goes into her toilet.

Peter does not go into Jane's toilet.

Jane does not go into Peter's toilet.

Peter is happy. Jane is happy.

Here is another toilet. It is very small. It has its own basin. It has its own taps. It has its own door. The door locks. It is a good toilet.

This toilet is for everyone.

Here is Jolyon.

He is unhappy.

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This is fabulous.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 13/02/2026 12:33

Greyskybluesky · 13/02/2026 12:31

I am amused to see (on Reddit) hints of a conspiracy-theory connection between PTD and Mumsnet!

Oh no poor PTD 🤣 🤣 the ignominy of association with us awful harpies at Prosecco Stormfront. I could almost feel sympathy 😂

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 13/02/2026 12:34

What other courts is the High Court binding on? Whilst it has gone against the Kelly tribunal, for example, does it overturn it?

Greyskybluesky · 13/02/2026 12:35

Ereshkigalangcleg · 13/02/2026 12:33

Oh no poor PTD 🤣 🤣 the ignominy of association with us awful harpies at Prosecco Stormfront. I could almost feel sympathy 😂

Interesting that he seems far more intelligent and down to earth than most on there, and with a grip on reality... and so they are suspicious of him!

DownhillTeaTray · 13/02/2026 12:35

Some of them can't bear P-t-d because he bursts their bubble with howwible facts, so he's consistently downvoted.

And, because he has at least some grip on reality, they obvs think he's a plant 🙄

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DeanElderberry · 13/02/2026 12:36

Catiette · 13/02/2026 12:15

Ah, Peter and Jane. 😍

Here is a toilet. It is a male toilet. It is Peter's toilet.

Here is another toilet. It is a female toilet. It is Jane's toilet.

Peter goes into his toilet.

Jane goes into her toilet.

Peter does not go into Jane's toilet.

Jane does not go into Peter's toilet.

Peter is happy. Jane is happy.

Here is another toilet. It is very small. It has its own basin. It has its own taps. It has its own door. The door locks. It is a good toilet.

This toilet is for everyone.

Here is Jolyon.

He is unhappy.

Edited

He is sad.

:(

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