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Olivia Colman: “I’ve always described myself to my husband as a gay man.” 🙄

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NaysayerOrMeanie · 06/02/2026 23:29

Olivia Colman is currently on the press tour for her new film Jimpa and has come out with some absolute corkers in an interview with them "magazine" including:

"Throughout my whole life, I’ve had arguments with people where I've always felt sort of nonbinary. Don’t make that a big sort of title! But I’ve never felt massively feminine in my being female. I’ve always described myself to my husband as a gay man. And he goes, “Yeah, I get that.”"

Which I can only assume means he likes it when she pegs him.

And a dig at some undefined group of naysayers and haters and meanies:

"Most of the actors were from, particularly in the Dutch side of things, from the queer community there; I’ve never been part of a more welcoming group of people. For all those naysayers or haters or meanies, if [only] they could spend the time with the most welcoming, kind bunch of people. I kind of want everyone to just come and say hi and actually feel total love."

Jimpa stars Olivia Colman as Hannah, mother to the non-binary Frances (played by they/them, non-binary, queer, transgender daughter of the film's director, Aud Mason-Hyde) who go to Amsterdam to visit Hannah's gay HIV positive father (John Lithgow, currently simultaneously scorned by the queers for daring to be in the new Harry Potter series, any by the meanies for talking shit about JKR). I'm sure it will be a hoot.

Congratulations Olivia on your brave coming out as a queer, non-binary, gay man, spicy-straight woman. You're so late to the party all the cool kids will find your identity embarrassing now.

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Carla786 · 08/02/2026 18:12

SionnachRuadh · 08/02/2026 10:43

I find the same thing. The Looking Glass War is one of my favourites - it's underappreciated because it's about a doomed mission launched by an incompetent agency, but I like it as a dark comedy because I've worked in organisations exactly like that. But I've never been comfortable with the passages about Avery feeling oppressed by his needy wife, because it's painfully obvious Le Carre wrote it when his first marriage was breaking down.

Adam Sisman's follow up volume to his biography makes it very plain that his female characters were mostly based on whoever his mistress of the moment was. A close reader of the books would probably have guessed that anyway.

Charlie in The Little Drummer Girl is the exception for me, but that's probably because he drew heavily on his sister Charlotte Cornwell (an interesting woman in her own right who's not as well known as she should be) and that gives Charlie three dimensions where most of his women don't get beyond two.

I didn't know that about his sister Charlotte - interesting.

Yes, basing female MCs on mistresses probably isn't ideal for a rounded character.

Carla786 · 08/02/2026 18:14

InconvenientlyMaterial · 08/02/2026 12:52

It's really insulting. I'm several years younger than OC, yet all my gay male friends have experienced homophobia at some point, despite things undoubtedly improving. None were able to come out until adulthood. Gay men are over represented in suicides I know of too. That's a complex issue so I'm not suggesting a direct cause, but perhaps it points to the fact that the scars from the past run deep.

Yes, the gay male suicide rate is high, especially younger gay men I think. Lesbians and bisexual women and men have a higher rate than average but gay men have the highest.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&source=web&rct=j&url=www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/apr/09/suicide-self-harm-risk-lgb-adults-lesbian-gay-bisexual-ons-england-wales%23:~:text%3DAccording%2520to%2520the%2520Office%2520for%2520National%2520Statistics,times%2520higher%2520than%2520for%2520their%2520heterosexual%2520peers.&ved=2ahUKEwjZ58nJv8qSAxW_Q0EAHYeZCFYQ1fkOegQIChAN&opi=89978449&cd&psig=AOvVaw2OyGpFz2AJHs90l8vtQaOZ&ust=1770660783838000

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WhatterySquash · 08/02/2026 18:39

Quite why we’re supposed to be so fascinated by this average-looking 20-something woman who plays female parts (because, er, she’s a woman?) and is in a heterosexual relationship with a man, but is afforded reverential coverage as she maunders on about the minute shifts in her ‘identity', I'm not quite sure.

This is one of the things about the whole GI situation that I find mindblowing. In a similar way to the males in women's prisons thing, thought that's on a very different level of seriousness. If all you have to do is say you're trans / NB, it has no real definable meaning (other than one based on meaningless terms), and cannot be tested for, how can people not see that OF COURSE people are going to suddenly announce they're NB to get cool points, get roles or jobs, claim oppression, be able to apply for grants and opportunities for "LGBTQ" people or be able to tick-box their own organisation/team/business as "diverse" or "under-represented" without having to actually change anything. OF COURSE THEY ARE! Just like male sex offenders announcing they're women will get them special treatment, an easier life and access to more victims so OF COURSE THEY ARE! How can so many people apparently not figure this out!? Why does anyone take "NB" seriously when it's totally meaningless in itself, and is an obvious grift?

(I do accept some young people will decide they're NB in earnest, via GI indoctrination and their feeling of not fitting in. But in most adults its an OBVIOUS grift IMO.)

Szygy · 08/02/2026 18:40

FFSMaureen · 08/02/2026 16:15

@Szygy can you remember anything about the title of the thread? I find googling something then 'Mumsnet' takes me to it more easily than searching for it on here.

Sorry everyone - I'm sure I didn’t dream this but I’ve been searching for hours (also trying your suggestion @FFSMaureen) and I can’t find any trace now. Maybe it was deleted….better not say too much under the circs but I’m sure I read something about OC and her husband being patrons (to be clear, not their own charity/company) of a particular charitable foundation, and its donations……as I say, could I really have hallucinated it in so much detail?! Oh well. Apologies if I misled.

SternJoyousBeev2 · 08/02/2026 19:21

Americano75 · 08/02/2026 10:42

'I find it so upsetting and so mystifying that there is such hatred towards any group of people. But clearly, hatred can only come from people that just don't know any of these people, because I don't know how you could hate people that are so kind and lovely.'

Oh my actual God. What is she, 5?

its such an insufferably patronising thing to say and attitude to have.

Americano75 · 08/02/2026 19:42

SternJoyousBeev2 · 08/02/2026 19:21

its such an insufferably patronising thing to say and attitude to have.

It's very infantilising isn't it? 'Ooooh, look at you, you're so sweeeeeet!'

Gettingbysomehow · 09/02/2026 06:55

Absurd. A strong woman and not conventionally pretty so she must be non binary. A real woman cant possibly be outspoken and not pretty.
This gender bollox is the most misogynistic thing this century.

DialSquare · 09/02/2026 09:43

SternJoyousBeev2 · 08/02/2026 19:21

its such an insufferably patronising thing to say and attitude to have.

And the fawning. It’s cringeworthy. No wonder TRA’s feel so entitled

Gloriia · 09/02/2026 10:13

It's like when Victoria Cohen responded to the criticism of a man identifying as a woman on her tv show and called him a 'sweet quizzer'.

Are these women so utterly gormless that that don't see that it doesn't matter how sweet their dresses are nor how pretty their lippy is they are men and as such should stop trying to convince themselves and others that they are women and stop trying to get into women only areas.

hholiday · 09/02/2026 10:27

Gloriia · 09/02/2026 10:13

It's like when Victoria Cohen responded to the criticism of a man identifying as a woman on her tv show and called him a 'sweet quizzer'.

Are these women so utterly gormless that that don't see that it doesn't matter how sweet their dresses are nor how pretty their lippy is they are men and as such should stop trying to convince themselves and others that they are women and stop trying to get into women only areas.

Agree. And who is it they are calling ‘meanies’? NHS nurses who are being forced to share changing rooms with these men? Little girls trying to use a supermarket toilet? Are they so wrapped up in their own privilege, they can’t imagine the unintended consequences of their views?

EmpressDomesticatednottamed · 09/02/2026 10:28

Gettingbysomehow · 09/02/2026 06:55

Absurd. A strong woman and not conventionally pretty so she must be non binary. A real woman cant possibly be outspoken and not pretty.
This gender bollox is the most misogynistic thing this century.

It's all so fluffy, as fluffy as a fluffed up crinoline on a chaise longue looking at lovely pictures of kittens in case anything might filter through.
I don't think my ironyometer can take many more repairs.

FFSMaureen · 09/02/2026 10:35

Szygy · 08/02/2026 18:40

Sorry everyone - I'm sure I didn’t dream this but I’ve been searching for hours (also trying your suggestion @FFSMaureen) and I can’t find any trace now. Maybe it was deleted….better not say too much under the circs but I’m sure I read something about OC and her husband being patrons (to be clear, not their own charity/company) of a particular charitable foundation, and its donations……as I say, could I really have hallucinated it in so much detail?! Oh well. Apologies if I misled.

That's ringing a vague bell.

InconvenientlyMaterial · 09/02/2026 10:39

hholiday · 09/02/2026 10:27

Agree. And who is it they are calling ‘meanies’? NHS nurses who are being forced to share changing rooms with these men? Little girls trying to use a supermarket toilet? Are they so wrapped up in their own privilege, they can’t imagine the unintended consequences of their views?

Well of course they're meanies!

If OC has to play an NHS nurse OC'll get changed in OC luxury trailer or dressing room. And OC doesn't need to shop in a supermarket, silly!

Please be kind!

Gloriia · 09/02/2026 11:22

InconvenientlyMaterial · 09/02/2026 10:39

Well of course they're meanies!

If OC has to play an NHS nurse OC'll get changed in OC luxury trailer or dressing room. And OC doesn't need to shop in a supermarket, silly!

Please be kind!

She maybe wouldn't care because as she identifies as a gay man what's a few cocks in the changing rooms Confused.

I really wish a high profile gay man would put her back in her box.

OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 09/02/2026 16:05

Gloriia · 09/02/2026 11:22

She maybe wouldn't care because as she identifies as a gay man what's a few cocks in the changing rooms Confused.

I really wish a high profile gay man would put her back in her box.

And they would.

But it's fine, she can be cool and exciting in the mixed sex gender neutral facilities, and the rest of us can crack on in single spaces in peace.

SionnachRuadh · 09/02/2026 16:37

It's the kind of thing that makes me think - OC is an actor, if she works in that environment then obviously she knows lots of gay men.

Surely a gay man in the business might set her straight on this.

You don't feel conventionally feminine; fine, none of us have a problem with that. That doesn't make you Jeff Stryker; your husband would feel the difference in a very sensitive place.

ThatCyanCat · 09/02/2026 20:21

If people are binary or non binary, isn't that... a binary?

GlomOfNit · 09/02/2026 20:27

Pick Meeee Pick MEEEEEEE!!!

Oh dear Olivia. They've moved on a bit now, but don't worry. We can all see that you're very Kind and Bewildered by all those incomprehensible meanies.

(It's really sad. Back in the 90's/00's this is exactly the sort of film I'd rush to see. How lovely, how tolerant/inclusive/brave etc. Now it feels precisely like Tick Boxes By The Numbers for maximum cookies. It's all pretty soulless and contrived. But I do find that my 90's love for The Gay has been completely taken away by this cohort of blue-haired humourless zealots.)

BatchCookBabe · 09/02/2026 20:31

HildegardP · 06/02/2026 23:33

I rolled my eyes so hard I may have self-inflicted bilateral retrobulbar hematomas.

I don't even know what this means, but it made me LOL!!!!! 😆

Like everyone else here, I just laughed when I read this about Olivia Coleman. I was like WTF?! 😂

Americano75 · 09/02/2026 20:58

Interesting how bad a lot of the reviews are. Oh dear.

AeroChambre · 10/02/2026 00:13

FFSMaureen · 09/02/2026 10:35

That's ringing a vague bell.

This one?

https://tender.org.uk/about/our-people/our-patrons-ambassadors/olivia-colman-ed-sinclair/

Namingbaba · 10/02/2026 06:42

I’m sure lots of women don’t fit neatly into what’s expected of women, myself included. It’s so divisive, regressive and unhelpful to create this new category.