Olivia Colman: “I’ve always described myself to my husband as a gay man.” 🙄

[NaysayerOrMeanie]

Olivia Colman is currently on the press tour for her new film Jimpa and has come out with some absolute corkers in an interview with them "magazine" including:

"Throughout my whole life, I’ve had arguments with people where I've always felt sort of nonbinary. Don’t make that a big sort of title! But I’ve never felt massively feminine in my being female. I’ve always described myself to my husband as a gay man. And he goes, “Yeah, I get that.”"

Which I can only assume means he likes it when she pegs him.

And a dig at some undefined group of naysayers and haters and meanies:

"Most of the actors were from, particularly in the Dutch side of things, from the queer community there; I’ve never been part of a more welcoming group of people. For all those naysayers or haters or meanies, if [only] they could spend the time with the most welcoming, kind bunch of people. I kind of want everyone to just come and say hi and actually feel total love."

Jimpa stars Olivia Colman as Hannah, mother to the non-binary Frances (played by they/them, non-binary, queer, transgender daughter of the film's director, Aud Mason-Hyde) who go to Amsterdam to visit Hannah's gay HIV positive father (John Lithgow, currently simultaneously scorned by the queers for daring to be in the new Harry Potter series, any by the meanies for talking shit about JKR). I'm sure it will be a hoot.

Congratulations Olivia on your brave coming out as a queer, non-binary, gay man, spicy-straight woman. You're so late to the party all the cool kids will find your identity embarrassing now.

It's the old Dire Straits problem. Mark Knopfler used to base a lot of his songs on ordinary people he encountered. When he became rich and famous, he had a lot less material to work with.

I adored Rev and her in it. Like you, also Broadchurch. I don’t think I’ve ever seen anything of hers that I haven’t been quite mesmerised by her.

Another poster also mentioned The Accused. She was also in Tyranossaur. I loved her in the dance scene with Paul Mescal in The Lost Daughter.

I think she is utterly stunning and has such an interesting expressive face and a gorgeous voice. I don’t think she is the same in everything she’s in. I suppose this is me loving her as an actor, but I can’t help but be disappointed by the real life spouting of such nonsense.

I enjoy Le Carre on audio book where some have essays he wrote far more recently as a post script. He's genuinely interesting.

But I've not come across a decent female character yet. The novels are all massive bromances. Whilst some women fare better than others, they're invariably described as quite pathetic, needy characters and are never the main focus.

That said, I liked the ambiguity of Jed in the novel. Pine found her highly irritating at first, and he didn't know she wasn't fully colluding with Roper. The TV series (which I mostly loved) did the book a disservice by clunkily ensuring viewers knew Jed was a Good Person.

'I find it so upsetting and so mystifying that there is such hatred towards any group of people. But clearly, hatred can only come from people that just don't know any of these people, because I don't know how you could hate people that are so kind and lovely.'

Oh my actual God. What is she, 5?

I find the same thing. The Looking Glass War is one of my favourites - it's underappreciated because it's about a doomed mission launched by an incompetent agency, but I like it as a dark comedy because I've worked in organisations exactly like that. But I've never been comfortable with the passages about Avery feeling oppressed by his needy wife, because it's painfully obvious Le Carre wrote it when his first marriage was breaking down.

Adam Sisman's follow up volume to his biography makes it very plain that his female characters were mostly based on whoever his mistress of the moment was. A close reader of the books would probably have guessed that anyway.

Charlie in The Little Drummer Girl is the exception for me, but that's probably because he drew heavily on his sister Charlotte Cornwell (an interesting woman in her own right who's not as well known as she should be) and that gives Charlie three dimensions where most of his women don't get beyond two.

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Have you been to The Bluestocking Women's Pub, Carla786?
It's staffed by gerbils - maybe OC did a few shifts there between roles?

How about the hatred towards women who need female only spaces, Olivia? Is that upsetting and mystifying too?

She just “doesn’t understand” why women don’t want predatory men in their safe spaces.

Poor Olivia, must be a hard life being so easily confused

If i described myself as a 'gay man' DH would book me in with the doctor
If I told him I described myself as a gerbil he'd probably say 'crack on love '

How come OC's husband said ' I get that'
Is he as daft as she is??
Quite insulting to gay men actually

Exactly. She's an idiot.

It's really insulting. I'm several years younger than OC, yet all my gay male friends have experienced homophobia at some point, despite things undoubtedly improving. None were able to come out until adulthood. Gay men are over represented in suicides I know of too. That's a complex issue so I'm not suggesting a direct cause, but perhaps it points to the fact that the scars from the past run deep.

I suppose Olivia Colman is a middle-aged woman now so she’s desperate not to fall behind when the likes of Emma 'They/Them' Corrin is lounging around being snapped in their big pants and fangirled (fanthem-ed?) over in today's Observer.

Quite why we’re supposed to be so fascinated by this average-looking 20-something woman who plays female parts (because, er, she’s a woman?) and is in a heterosexual relationship with a man, but is afforded reverential coverage as she maunders on about the minute shifts in her ‘identity', I'm not quite sure. But it’s maybe got Olivia worried the bandwagon may move on without her.

PS Haven’t RTFT but I expect someone has linked to the thread about OC and husband's company?

Haven’t RTFT but I expect someone has linked to the thread about OC and husband's company?

I don't think so - what's the link?

This.

I never have understood why people are supposed to be fascinated by someone's deep and meaningful thoughts about the internal workings of themselves.

No, please do @szygy!

I'm trying to find it but I can’t - I'll keep trying!

@Szygy can you remember anything about the title of the thread? I find googling something then 'Mumsnet' takes me to it more easily than searching for it on here.

So agree with you about Emma Thompson. A real pain.

Oh god I forgot non-binary Emma Corrin was gonna be in the new P&P

How can a cast of people who think that the oppression of women is nothing to do with biology but with “identity”, seriously be in a classic novel where the central theme is that a family of 5 children will lose everything they have before long, and have no home to live in, precisely because they were all born female and their male parent dying could destroy their lives if they don’t marry other males?!

Do you think as two educated women, Emma Corrin and Olivia Coleman think that if Jane Bennet had just identified as a man, everything would have been fine and Longbourne wouldn’t have gone to Mr Collins? Because if not then surely they’re completely betraying their belief system?

Here’s a list of things I’d rather do than watch the new “diverse and modern” (I’m still reeling from the diverse and modern shitshow that was Netflix’s Persuasion) Emma Corrin and Olivia Coleman P&P:

1. Watch the absolutely perfect and flawless 1995 BBC version
2. Watch the (utterly shite and too unlike the book) 2005 Kiera Knightley version
3. Die

Judging by their comments, I don’t think either of them have thought about the implications of gender identity ideology all that much.

Thanks Olivia. I was feeling bad about your character's demise in the Night Manager until now.

Aha, I see,,thank you. I will definitely read The Little Drummer Girl. I like Florence Pugh a lot, so looking forward to watching.

That's a shame...but yes, I can see how that would happen. It's probably better creatively to live a low-key life but the lure of wealth & constant press attention are difficult for many to avoid..

Oh, did she die? Either I missed it or I stopped watching before I got to that bit.