Olivia Colman: “I’ve always described myself to my husband as a gay man.” 🙄

[NaysayerOrMeanie]

Olivia Colman is currently on the press tour for her new film Jimpa and has come out with some absolute corkers in an interview with them "magazine" including:

"Throughout my whole life, I’ve had arguments with people where I've always felt sort of nonbinary. Don’t make that a big sort of title! But I’ve never felt massively feminine in my being female. I’ve always described myself to my husband as a gay man. And he goes, “Yeah, I get that.”"

Which I can only assume means he likes it when she pegs him.

And a dig at some undefined group of naysayers and haters and meanies:

"Most of the actors were from, particularly in the Dutch side of things, from the queer community there; I’ve never been part of a more welcoming group of people. For all those naysayers or haters or meanies, if [only] they could spend the time with the most welcoming, kind bunch of people. I kind of want everyone to just come and say hi and actually feel total love."

Jimpa stars Olivia Colman as Hannah, mother to the non-binary Frances (played by they/them, non-binary, queer, transgender daughter of the film's director, Aud Mason-Hyde) who go to Amsterdam to visit Hannah's gay HIV positive father (John Lithgow, currently simultaneously scorned by the queers for daring to be in the new Harry Potter series, any by the meanies for talking shit about JKR). I'm sure it will be a hoot.

Congratulations Olivia on your brave coming out as a queer, non-binary, gay man, spicy-straight woman. You're so late to the party all the cool kids will find your identity embarrassing now.

Same here.

Nobody does. Everyone is non binary if what it means is "doesn't always fit exactly into every sex stereotype all the time", which it does. It should be proof that gender is bollocks but somehow it's been used as a new one!

Someone in a shop had they/them pronouns on his name badge the other day. Polite, helpful, very nice man, all good, but he was so obviously a man it felt embarrassing. The black nail varnish and jewellery didn't stop him being very obviously and recognisably a man. They didn't give him any kind of non-male air. He was a man!

I find her language so cringeworthy. Full of rancid stereotypes. It makes her sound quite dated which I'm not sure is what she was aiming for.

Exactly. I’m considerably more “gender non-binary” than most NB-IDing people I’ve met or know of. I just don’t deny being a woman because I don’t fit a sexist stereotype - most people don’t.

There are loads of normal activities that are not gendered and are “non-binary” activities. Reading, gardening, getting a takeaway, listening to music etc. The whole idea of NB relies on being surrounded by a strictly gendered world that doesn’t actually exist.

That doesn’t mean the world isn’t sexist, it is but the idea of a “gender binary” that only super-special people are outside just adds to the sexism.

Edited: Oops, sorry, I thought you responded to a different article I shared

Rumbelow or Glass, or both?
I find neither's take particularly insightful here but maybe because we have said similar things for what feels like for ever. It all just seems so obvious, people have a sex and a personality and that's it.

I’m totally non-binary, if non-binary means having short hair, wearing trousers and flat shoes and having short nails.

But it doesn’t. The binary is XX or XY.

I really hope Olivia’s husband is taking the absolute piss out of her for this behind closed doors. I’d be having so much fun.

“I do think I learned an awful lot on the way as well. Actually, I’m not sure that I spent so much time with anyone in the trans community before then, thinking about it, you know. Yeah, I did learn a bit, and I got better at pronouns as well.”

Sounds like Stockholm Syndrome to me

Reading the response Times article took me right back to being an awkward 80s teenager, feeling too tall and too fat to ever be ‘feminine’ like the cool girls, not having a clue about make up and fashion, choosing to wear men’s jeans because I couldn’t accept I had female hips and baggy tops to hide my breasts.
I shudder to think that if that had been today I would have completely embraced the GI movement. Luckily the only option then was to be a goth, and the only permanent physical reminder I have is three piercing holes in one ear.

I feel like she just invalidated quite a lot of hard-line TRA transwomen with her line "I believe everyone has all of it in them. I’ve always felt like that".

I'm just grateful teenage me had 90s club and drug culture to make me believe we were all part of one huge, loving collective whole, rather than this individualistic shite.

This was discussed on Times Radio this morning.

No one seems to think she has any reasonable points

Ditto, 100%.

I don't think so.

Wondering if youre in my town. Oxfam?

No, B&Q. Although there may well be one in the local Oxfam too. Young men with nail varnish, eyeliner and silver jewellery are pretty common and until very recently, nobody ever thought it meant they weren't men.

Black nailpolish and a they/them badge seemed so unique, though! 😂

Exactly it's the same as the clearly male 'they/them' at the cinema near me too; black nail varnish, some kind of nose and ear jewellery, metal chains.

Tbh just dressed like all the male Goths I knew back in the 90s. Who we all knew were men, including them.

The BBC interviewed a they/them after that student was murdered recently. I saw his photo, septum piercing ✔️, interesting hair colour ✔️, they/them'd in his quotes ✔️ . I'm not certain how good a witness he would be if he's incapable of observing his own sex!

Interesting responses to Olivia Colperson's interview in the Times

https://archive.ph/z5RPj

https://www.thetimes.com/life-style/sex-relationships/article/yes-olivia-we-feel-sort-of-non-binary-too-xg69v8w90

Interesting article. I feel like the author nearly gets it...but then starts making similar cool girl pronouncements eg that she's got no interest in womanly things (including her own womb) or
whatever else they’re going on about on Woman’s Hour this week.

"Going on about". Not discussing. Because they're just silly wims. The internalised misogyny runs deep.

‘Colperson’ 😂😂😂

Yep. David Tennant, Stephen Fry, John Lithgow, Emma Thompson, Dawn French et al
all gone to the devil the minute they speak their own words - if only they stuck to their scripts. I think most slebs are confused, believing they are clever when in truth they are just good at pretending to be a whole range of things they are not. Silence definitely is golden. Acting mostly seens to be modelling with a bit more movement.

Who was it who said, ‘Better to keep quiet and be thought an idiot than to speak up and remove all doubt’?

They were right, whoever they were.

The minute women like her get a sniff of wealth and fame they conveniently forget how vital women only toilets, changing rooms, Refuges, women only hospital wards, and women only support services are. They will never need any of these, money and fame will insulate them from the real world from now on. Must be nice i guess. Makes me remember how extraordinary and wonderful J K Rowling is, the wealthiest and most famous who never for a moment forgets the problems of ordinary women in this misogynistic world. 😍

To be fair ‘I learned a lot’ is often acting speak for ‘I learned to never work with this lot ever again.’

The rest of it sounds very much like standard ‘my contract says I have to do publicity, so I will find something positive to associate me with the queer community even if it’s a stupid joke I made to my husband ten years ago.’

Which would be fair enough, if she wasn't throwing ordinary women under the bus in the process.

Whenever I read something like this I see some awful Mary Whitehouse figure in a1950s dress tinkly laughing about how women don't need legal protections against harassment because they have never been one of those women who mistakes their role in the home...

Same degree of asinine submission. Same degree of throwing women who are 'not like me' under a bus.