The Countess - Womens rights group in Ireland - Report on Immigration Effects on Women & Girls

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Irish people are being forced to accept policy that transgresses fundamental boundaries and treats nature, identity, culture, family, and nationality as negotiable when in fact, the family unit, community, and inherited culture are the scaffolding of a stable society. We at The Countess are unafraid of analysing policy through the lens of womens’ rights and child safeguarding.

thecountess.ie/a-new-campaign-a-new-direction-a-new-mission/

Report: Through a Safeguarding lens, darkly: a thematic report into the International Protection Provision in Ireland

The report has identified significant shifts in the nature of sexual violence across Europe, highlighting emergent trends in opportunistic street attacks and group-based sexual assaults. The findings raise urgent questions for Irish policymakers as the State continues to accommodate over 33,000 individuals in the International Protection system without screening them against European Crime databases.

Drawing on official statistics from multiple EU member states including Austria, Germany, Sweden, Finland, Denmark, Italy, and France, the report outlines clear evidence that foreign-born individuals are over-represented in sexual offence data, often by a factor of three to four, with even higher rates in specific subcategories such as gang rape.

Sounds like a brilliant piece of work. And I suddenly feel as though I now need to think more deeply/critically about news coverage which portrays those protesting about immigration hotels as right wing racists… all sounding awfully familiar…

Does anyone know if UK immigration stats are disaggregated to allow a similar comparison?

What's the data of the men from particular nations having terrible levels of homosexual rape?
Should we know this data?
Maybe it would be good to know?
Have you checked the data on sexual crime committed by those at asylum hotels? Per capita much higher than the British average.
Do you think Brutish people should be made aware of the data?

Because initial evidence indicates guilt, and this is later either superceded by new evidence, or is not considered strong enough for a court to return a guilty verdict.

I think "I don't care about sport anyway" needs to be added to the bingo card

and yes pigeon chess springs to mind

I think all information should be publicly available. I think it's bad judgment of the government to ever think otherwise. But you didn't answer why you don't care about sexual assaults in single sex prisons.

Do you care about everything in the world? Probably not.

So how do you reconcile your culture bias against Irish law?

https://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/2015/act/25/enacted/en/print

If someone comes from a country with a lot of crime, it's not okay to assume they're a criminal. Brazil has a lot of crime. Can we ban Brazilians?

I mean, I have no interest in the Women's Institute, but I still care if TIMs access unreasonably.
I don't really watch women's sport, but I really care if TIMs take medals and opportunities from women.
I used to pay scant regard to the women's changing rooms at Primark, but am angry if I hear a young girl ran out tearful because....well, you know.
And I didn't pay a lot of attention to the rape data from Afghanistan or numbers of Iraqi men marrying 9 year old girls, because we used to not allow significant numbers into the UK, but now...

Well

Do you understand the difference between:
”…are criminals…”

and
“…are more likely to be criminals…”

?

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There's nothing wrong with men and women in the same restrooms or changing rooms. It's been existing longer than segregated restrooms. Kids also run away crying from deformed/disabled people

But you wouldn't even want the data to be collected, let alone published.
I'm a reasonable man, I'm happy to meet half way. For every Brazilian who at most might snatch my mobile phone or steal my car, I'll bar entry other than for the most vigorous of vetting and ability to instantly deport, Afghans, Iraqis and Eritreans, who are more likely to sexually assault or rape my wife or daughter, any female citizen, and also me (since you seem to believe I have no interest in homosexual rape).
I'm very reluctant to admit large numbers of people from nations where the culture is rapey, and the respect for women and children would shame pre-Middle Ages Britain.

Human nature is constant IMO 😬

its the culture which develops to justify the shit men want.

Thats why the support set up for women and children escaping the Russian invasion did not result in targeted protests.

Yes, and I stand by that it's not okay to dictate where people can or can't go because they happen to be from a country with high crime. Many countries do. We'll just tell all of them where they can or can't go, right? No more Brazilians too, there's a lot o crime there.

Yep, I think that is where we are. I'm not engaging further with our feathered friend

You still haven't told me why you believe it's ok to house males in female hostels/refuges but not in female prisons, particularly as women prisoners are more protected due to the levels of supervision.

What do you mean by changing rooms? Are you referring to places with showers in gyms etc? Your use of american terminology is also a bit odd. Unless you are american obviously.

Brazil has high crime rates for violence and murder depending on region. Why is murder less important to you than rape specifically? And why do you think it's okay to police people based on respect? That is what thought policing is. The UK is full of people who aren't respectful and promote evil, dangerous things. But you would still deport people purely based on where they come from? You're not at all reasonable to promote authoritarianism where people are treated different based on where they came from, and not what they actually do.

Yes, gyms and toilets.

Do you care about everything in the world? Or just when it suits you?

I guess you missed the Grok info that debunked your claims about women in Ireland having to marry rapists?

I don't think things should be censored, but I don't think it's okay to use data of crimes in any country as a way to tar every individual who comes from there. You are also a massive hypocrite.

But you are asserting that people here are saying that “all middle eastern men are rapists” when what is actually being said is “ Middle Eastern men are more likely to be rapists.”

I asked if you understood the difference, and wondered why you are misrepresenting people’s positions. I just assumed probability is too difficult a concept for you.

We're talking about sheer numbers. Tbh, if 40k Canadians annually got off illegally on a Dover beach, I'd be concerned. But we know that 40k Canadians annually are not the issue, 40k Afghans are etc. We know... because of the data.
Forget about follow the money. Follow the data.
Now, if Canadians en masse lived in a rapey culture, I'd be worried if 40k came here annually.
Brazilians? Again if 40k came annually and illegally, I suspect the data on homicides in Brazil would become relevant.
So, back in the day, when 40k Afghans Iraqis Eritreans, let alone 40k Brazilians, let's alone 40k Canadians, didn't come annually, the phenomenon of importing cultural practices inimical to British culture just wasn't an unmanageable problem.
Ditto men in women's spaces. Just 15 years ago, society dud not wave men into women's spaces, and now they do, with all the attendant issues.

Banning people based on where they come from IS assuming and treating people as criminals, when most aren't. And you are authoritarian for even telling people where they can go based on where they come from.