Has anyone left their spouse over GC views / pro-Islam stance

[PinkTreeFrog]

Husband and I could never find common ground on gender critical views and his blindness to the harms of Islam to women. He has an inability to take in information that contradicts his world view. Has anyone left a spouse over this?

I asked OP whether she feels the same about Jewish men at least twice and she ignored my question and focussed only on Islam.

You've just answered your own question there. The hijab unsettles you. So your assumptions are based on what you see and think. Im a Muslim woman who doesn't wear the hijab. I haven't been forced to wear one and I won't be forced to wear one either. Im 40 years old with 2 girls who dont wear the hijab and a son. I love my faith and absolutely have no pressure to wear the hijab or have 'men' who will force me or my daughters. I have a husband,brothers,brother in laws and a dad. Who again haven't forced anything on us.

Then give those actual sources, since that is what I asked for. Instead of giving actual links to actual data sources, you've given pictures. You must understand that anyone can make an infographic with a stat in it to make a point, whether those stats are taken out of context or not. You must understand that this is why people want to see actual data, and not the pictures you have supplied.

I am not claiming it is some sort of conspiracy by the 'prison department'. I am asking for actual evidence to support what you are saying, and you have not provided it.

I resent the implication that my question is not in good faith. I am not 'flailing about', I am asking you for factual information, not a picture.

I'm not denying anything. I'm asking for actual, factual information that is verifiable. All I've been given so far on this thread is 'trust me bro', with absolutely no context.

I have seen nothing that demonstrates transgender people are more dangerous.

If you want to claim that there is no difference in sex offending between women and men who identify as women, why not work out the hypothetical male trans population which would be needed in order to equalise that convicted sex offender figure for women, 4 per million population?

Also, why don’t you follow the links and verify or refute the official information yourself? An infographic was provided for you, a perfectly reasonable means of delivering data, and your own bias is crystal clear.

i await your demonstration that the government figures given, which you can find links to at the author’s Substack, are incorrect. Prove her wrong, if you can. Instead of hiding behind the way the statistic is presented to you and your disapproval of the source to avoid dealing with it.

No, you haven’t been given “trust me bro”, you’ve been given an infographic with a link to the author’s Substack. Why not read it?

In actual fact it’s very obvious that men who identify as women are more dangerous than actual women, and it would certainly constitute an extraordinary claim needing evidence that by the simple act of calling himself a woman, a man renders himself less dangerous. Because that is what a “trans woman” is, a male who identifies as a woman. No more, no less.

It's the most preposterous argument. Men are, what, 40-50x more liable to commit violent/sexual crime than women.
So many of those men, pro rata, are in prison.
TIM prisoners held in women's prisons are almost to a man (pun intended) guilty of violent sex offences.
And women are going to be told there is no more risk of TIMs being a threat to them than women pro rata in the general population.
More mind games and deliberate obfuscation.

@1984Now yep. And it is a case of flailing about, to avoid engaging with that.

I'm not trying to prove anyone wrong, I'm asking for actual information. I didn't just jump on her post, she replied to mine with these images, and I have asked her, again, for actual information.

Pointing out that a statistic in an infographic can be easily manipulated to say anything you want is not 'disapproval', or avoiding dealing with it. It is an accurate point.

I want facts, not to prove her wrong. Although, I can't actually do that if she won't provide any facts in the first place.

Still no refuting of the infographic. Would the refusal to engage with the statistic presented or check out the explanation at the source yourself be the case if the infographic was from Stonewall or GLAAD? It wouldn’t, would it, because you assume GC feminists lie and genderist orgs tell the truth. Your bias.

I’m sure you know how google works and can check out the linked sources yourself to your satisfaction if you want to. Anyway, I can’t take the flailing seriously.

I can tell you from my knowledge that vis a vis England and Wales the only dubious figure is the “trans woman” census figure, because the ONS made a complete pigs ear of the gender identity section to pander to genderists. But hey ho that’s the official figure, they’ve never withdrawn it 🤷‍♀️

She did provide facts, and sources, you’ve just decided they must be wrong.

The majority of the very small number of UK women who convert to islam each year, do so largely for a Muslim man they are romantically interested in. This is unsurprising as Islam is very misogynistic.

Who would want to join a religion where you're not even allowed in the main prayer hall, and can never ever be a priest, just because you don't have a penis and Y-chromosome? Why should those irrelevant aspects matter at all to an all-knowing/powerful/loving God? Can women not sufficiently learn/understand/speak the religious texts? And can they not be sufficiently good, wise, charismatic & brave? Do women not matter as much in Islam because they are considered inferior and so may only follow/watch/obey the men?

The reverting (not converting) aspect is odd. Believing all humans are born Muslim, so a convert is merely returning to the 'one true and definitely final faith' is not very respectful. We live in a multifaith and no-faith society. We don't impose our religion on people we don't know. It's very rude.

Requiring women to always cover their hair to be 'modest' and avoid attracting male attention implies that men are unable to control themselves. It's very controlling of women and very insulting of men.

The Old Testament also forbids eating shellfish and wearing clothes made from two different fibres. One of the benefits of Christianity is it doesn't claim perfection. And I understand from Christian friends that the teachings of the New Testament are considered paramount. The Old Testament is more for context.

Your views re Islam and Muslim people, OP, are so far along the path of generalisation and assumption that they are veering towards offensive.

Why would I refute something I didn't ask for, and that is not relevant? I asked for facts from proper sources, and I don't understand why that is difficult to provide. I also don't understand why you have assumed what my entire belief system, opinions, and biases are based solely on my asking for factual evidence of something.

Why don’t you get it yourself? You keep claiming she hasn’t provided anything other than “trust me bro”. She has, she’s provided an infographic. Yes, all infographics could be lying, but it’s a valid way of presenting data, and it’s not particularly uncommon to use two different datasets to calculate statistics. Your implied claim that “trans women” as a group statistically pose less risk to women than other men is pretty indefensible, and you know it, or you would be able to back it up.

I haven't implied anything, or claimed anything of the sort. I have asked someone to provide actual evidence of their claims.

Do you really think that restricting or banning abortion in (I think so far) 19 states isn’t harming American women and removing basic rights, especially those who have died along with their unborn child because doctors have refused to provide medical care?
https://www.propublica.org/series/life-of-the-mother
And there’s the Republican USAID cuts. Obviously these are deadly across the board to men, women and particularly children - I’ve seen estimates of half a million killed so far from withdrawal of food and vital medical services, and 14 million deaths predicted in total if they are not reversed. But there is a particular goal of preventing women around the world accessing reproductive healthcare and contraception.
So yes, religious ideology can be a huge threat to women, and the alliance between Christian fundamentalism and the current Republican Party is a clear example of that,

We're expected to believe that transwomen who being men, at 40-50x more violent/sexually violent than women, suddenly don't present that threat because they're women. Because they feel they are. Because they say they are. Because leftist elites and transmaidens contend they are.
Not simply that these men ID as women, but that they are women, which would mean a 1:1 correspondence re violence/sexual violence between these men and the 97% of women that aren't in any way violent/actually violent.
But this fantasy isn't true.
We've all seen the stats...highlighted particularly by Helen Joyce and Kara Dansky, and published by prison authorities and various Home Offices.
That the vast majority of TIMs in the female prison population are violent/sexual offenders.
They correpond exactly to the proportion of violent/sexually violent male prisoners you'd find in any male prison.
You only have to peruse Reduxx for 30 minutes for any scales you might have on your eyelids to drop away like lead weights.

She did. If you doubt the accuracy, you go look them up using the links provided. And yes, you have, you literally used the words “trust me bro”. Why are you misrepresenting your own posts?

Absolutely. And because government data collection is so piss poor and captured, people hide behind this to make claims that there is no “evidence” that their pet group of men poses at least equal risk to women than other members of the male sex. God of the Gaps.

How do you know that will continue to be the case when in places like Iran (legally) and Malaysia (culturally) it has become mandatory?

I'm curious if transphobia is a gateway drug to Islamaphobia or if Islamaphobia is a gateway drug to transphobia. 😬

People who know men aren’t women have a range of other beliefs, both left leaning and right, because it’s common knowledge and the majority view 🤷‍♀️

Hi. I've never posted before, only been reading here for a few months, so not sure if I'm doing this correctly. For evidence of trans crime rates there are these.

https://usa.kpssinfo.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/BOP-Transgender-Inmate-Report-2025-01832.pdf and

https://archive.ph/sfjVM

Yes this info is shared by KPSS and the Telegraph, but the stats were provided by the United States Bureau of Prisons and the Ministry of Justice. You can see from the US stats that trans men (female) are more likely to be imprisoned for drug offences and that trans women (male) are more likely to be in for sex offences. I used to have links to reports that showed similar rates of offending in trans prisoners in another country, (I think it was either Canada or Australia), but struggling to find them. I will go back to lurking now.