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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Has anyone left their spouse over GC views / pro-Islam stance

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PinkTreeFrog · 25/12/2025 13:47

Husband and I could never find common ground on gender critical views and his blindness to the harms of Islam to women. He has an inability to take in information that contradicts his world view. Has anyone left a spouse over this?

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Ereshkigalangcleg · 26/12/2025 00:39

That’s great, @RatWrangler- thank you.

1984Now · 26/12/2025 00:41

Ereshkigalangcleg · 26/12/2025 00:14

Absolutely. And because government data collection is so piss poor and captured, people hide behind this to make claims that there is no “evidence” that their pet group of men poses at least equal risk to women than other members of the male sex. God of the Gaps.

I'm afraid total lack of transparency on data also applies to ethnic figures re crime on illegal migration. There is maximum obfuscation on journalists across the Right of politics being able to easily find the data on eg sex crimes for ethnicities and sub groups within ethnicities. And trans component of offences in women's prisons.
There is a "war on noticing", Starmer and the whole of the bearacratic state will not play ball on data. But as each week goes on, journalists dig in harder and the figures become too blinding to ignore.
And don't get me started on the weaponised silence over decades on ethnic based grooming gangs
The days of "not noticing" are over.
By the end of next year Reform and the Tories will be pushing 60% of the combined vote.
Rather than trust the public, the public are treated as irritants to only be talked in a friendly fashion at GE time.
The rest of the time, women and kids are treated by the Left in power as collateral damage in the drive to a neo liberal technocratic future.
Women, and the rest of us (men like me) only given data on trans crimes against women in prison and at large against women & the ethnic component of rising sexual crime at large, by Right journalists prising open the fingers of the dead state.

PinkTreeFrog · 26/12/2025 00:45

Whatwerewetalkingabout · 26/12/2025 00:21

I'm curious if transphobia is a gateway drug to Islamaphobia or if Islamaphobia is a gateway drug to transphobia. 😬

Am I not in the feminist sub? This is perplexing. Trans and Islamism are both antithetical to women's rights.

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1984Now · 26/12/2025 00:46

RatWrangler · 26/12/2025 00:38

Hi. I've never posted before, only been reading here for a few months, so not sure if I'm doing this correctly. For evidence of trans crime rates there are these.

https://usa.kpssinfo.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/BOP-Transgender-Inmate-Report-2025-01832.pdf and

https://archive.ph/sfjVM

Yes this info is shared by KPSS and the Telegraph, but the stats were provided by the United States Bureau of Prisons and the Ministry of Justice. You can see from the US stats that trans men (female) are more likely to be imprisoned for drug offences and that trans women (male) are more likely to be in for sex offences. I used to have links to reports that showed similar rates of offending in trans prisoners in another country, (I think it was either Canada or Australia), but struggling to find them. I will go back to lurking now.

Even here you can see the absolute male/female binary.
Transmen who may have spent years training to "be male", really believe it, have had medicalisation and surgery, "live their authentic selves", have everyone around them affirm them...when it comes right down to it, they go to prison for all the reasons that every woman who goes to prison, goes for.
Transwomen, ditto the list above, mimic identically the male cohort aberrant behaviour pattern and actions that every other man goes in for, even more accentuated at the aberrant end of the cohort.

YesIReallyDidOK · 26/12/2025 00:52

Ereshkigalangcleg · 26/12/2025 00:11

She did. If you doubt the accuracy, you go look them up using the links provided. And yes, you have, you literally used the words “trust me bro”. Why are you misrepresenting your own posts?

What she provided was not actual evidence, however much you feel it was. I asked for factual evidence of her claims.

I am not misrepresenting my own posts, but if you are determined to misunderstand there is nothing I can do about that.

BettyBooper · 26/12/2025 00:56

Whatwerewetalkingabout · 26/12/2025 00:21

I'm curious if transphobia is a gateway drug to Islamaphobia or if Islamaphobia is a gateway drug to transphobia. 😬

If understanding that people can't change sex is 'transphobic' and also believing that radical islam is harmful to women is 'islamaphobic' then, meh, you may have a point.

Guess I took that gateway drug.... 😬

BettyBooper · 26/12/2025 01:00

YesIReallyDidOK · 26/12/2025 00:52

What she provided was not actual evidence, however much you feel it was. I asked for factual evidence of her claims.

I am not misrepresenting my own posts, but if you are determined to misunderstand there is nothing I can do about that.

Literally look up yougov figures. Very easy.

Or even use your brain slightly.

Do you really believe that a man who says he's a woman actually is a woman? Honestly?

SouthernNights59 · 26/12/2025 01:07

Personally I think your husband is going to have a lucky escape!

BettyBooper · 26/12/2025 01:09

SouthernNights59 · 26/12/2025 01:07

Personally I think your husband is going to have a lucky escape!

Why?

Greyskybluesky · 26/12/2025 01:21

SouthernNights59 · 26/12/2025 01:07

Personally I think your husband is going to have a lucky escape!

Yes, he will certainly be free to find someone more keen to stroke his ego and not raise any difficult questions about the status of women and girls in the world.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 26/12/2025 01:23

YesIReallyDidOK · 26/12/2025 00:52

What she provided was not actual evidence, however much you feel it was. I asked for factual evidence of her claims.

I am not misrepresenting my own posts, but if you are determined to misunderstand there is nothing I can do about that.

If you’re determined to hide behind your dislike of GC women and their websites and blogs to have an excuse not to bother to check further before dismissing their work, there’s not much anyone can do about that.

You can access all the info yourself.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 26/12/2025 01:26

And your posts to @ThatBlackCat were patronising and rude, you said she had just posted a “picture” as if it was a picture of her cat, rather then statistics presented in an infographic format.

BoxesBoxesEverywhere · 26/12/2025 01:28

And your posts to @ThatBlackCat were patronising and rude

Are we tone policing now?

Holluschickie · 26/12/2025 01:29

We appear to have drifted away from the subject. Yes, OP should leave her husband.

BettyBooper · 26/12/2025 01:31

Ereshkigalangcleg · 26/12/2025 01:26

And your posts to @ThatBlackCat were patronising and rude, you said she had just posted a “picture” as if it was a picture of her cat, rather then statistics presented in an infographic format.

Edited

These stats are so readily available (notwithstanding just using one's own brain for a nanosecond) that arguing the opposite at this stage is a complete own-goal.

Just Google it.

Or think.

BettyBooper · 26/12/2025 01:34

BoxesBoxesEverywhere · 26/12/2025 01:28

And your posts to @ThatBlackCat were patronising and rude

Are we tone policing now?

Er, no. Are you?

YesIReallyDidOK · 26/12/2025 01:34

Ereshkigalangcleg · 26/12/2025 01:26

And your posts to @ThatBlackCat were patronising and rude, you said she had just posted a “picture” as if it was a picture of her cat, rather then statistics presented in an infographic format.

Edited

Statistics presented without any source given, and therefore no context as to whether they are appropriate in support of her opinion.

You've made all manner of assumptions about me, simply because I've asked for evidence based information and actual sources, and the end result is akin to "look it up yourself". Ok.

BettyBooper · 26/12/2025 01:41

YesIReallyDidOK · 26/12/2025 01:34

Statistics presented without any source given, and therefore no context as to whether they are appropriate in support of her opinion.

You've made all manner of assumptions about me, simply because I've asked for evidence based information and actual sources, and the end result is akin to "look it up yourself". Ok.

Put this into Google and have a read:

trans women prisoners uk stats offences

BettyBooper · 26/12/2025 01:47

BettyBooper · 26/12/2025 01:41

Put this into Google and have a read:

trans women prisoners uk stats offences

I tend to read the official gov sites myself.

Noone here is trying to trick you. Look for yourself.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 26/12/2025 02:04

YesIReallyDidOK · 26/12/2025 01:34

Statistics presented without any source given, and therefore no context as to whether they are appropriate in support of her opinion.

You've made all manner of assumptions about me, simply because I've asked for evidence based information and actual sources, and the end result is akin to "look it up yourself". Ok.

She did give sources! They are census and MoJ or US gov sources, and the authors of the infographics’ posts are linked! Why are you misrepresenting her posts now?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 26/12/2025 02:05

BettyBooper · 26/12/2025 01:31

These stats are so readily available (notwithstanding just using one's own brain for a nanosecond) that arguing the opposite at this stage is a complete own-goal.

Just Google it.

Or think.

I agree and I’m wasting no more time on it.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 26/12/2025 02:19

Ereshkigalangcleg · 25/12/2025 21:59

The E&W one is based on the number of “trans women” as self declared in the 2021 census as the men who identify as women population. It’s not a figure the website made up. The sex offenders in prison figure comes from a government report. The male figure is the adult male population compared to the number of male sex offenders in prison. They are all based on official figures whether you want to deny it or not.

I will say there is quite an interesting discussion about these figures on the author’s website, where the workings are shown in detail and links are available to the data for anyone who wants to check the sources.

https://scientificparentofatranskid.substack.com/p/fact-check-rates-of-sexual-offending

Fact Check: Rates of Sexual Offending

I don’t think many people will dispute the fact that males are responsible for the vast majority of sexual offences, and females make up the vast majority of victims.

https://scientificparentofatranskid.substack.com/p/fact-check-rates-of-sexual-offending

BoxesBoxesEverywhere · 26/12/2025 02:28

BettyBooper · 26/12/2025 01:34

Er, no. Are you?

The poster I was quoting was "scolding" for patronising and rude. Not you?
What happened to "women don't have to be nice?"

Ereshkigalangcleg · 26/12/2025 02:35

You seem to be on a different thread, @BoxesBoxesEverywhere- I haven’t said that women should or shouldn’t be “nice”. I made an observation about the specific posts another poster was making, as is my right. I’ll leave you to it as you clearly want an argument and have a bee in your bonnet about FWR.

BoxesBoxesEverywhere · 26/12/2025 02:55

I haven't said that women should or shouldn't be nice
Erm.. yes, I know. That was kind of the point.
It's usually what's said on here. Double standards, seemingly ok from you when it's against viewpoints/posters you don't agree with.

Your posts were patronising and rude - sounds pretty tone policing. Was just saying that the usual "women don't have to be nice" stance doesn't seem to apply today.