Ofcom will now investigate Talk Tv re transphobia.

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Here we go again.

From Good Law Project:

We said we’d sue over Ofcom’s decision to dismiss 22,000 complaints about transphobia on TalkTV – now the regulator has caved.

But we had monitored its output for July 2025, a month in which it carried 11 discussions on trans people. And in every discussion, its hosts and guests consistently spouted transphobic views. TalkTV’s stance mirrors the broader editorial position of its sister newspaper The Times, whose toxic and intellectually dishonest campaign against trans people we believe to be a contributor to the rise in hate crime against them.

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Among my misdeeds, apparently, is that I said this on air: "By definition, if you’ve had to get a piece of paper to say that you are a woman, you must accept then that you are man."

I'm happy to be found guilty of defending women's rights and safety, knowing the actual law, understanding basic biology and knowing what a woman is. 🤷🏻‍♀️

God, another “It’s so easy to understand, there’s nothing at all complicated about it, you big sillies” post, again failing to even attempt to explain.
How tediously predictable.

I think that is clear in my previous post, but , sure, I will try again.

Gender identity = the cognitive understanding that "I am a woman/ girl" or "I am a man/ boy ". Almost all people acquire this understanding: usually around the age of three years old.

I actually think that's a very good definition although you all love to mock it I know.

Except you think people can have a cognitive understanding that they are in fact the opposite sex.
This would suggest a degree of cognitive impairment, from where I’m standing?

"cognitive impairment" , no.
Cognitive difference- absolutely.

And as we all know there is an empirical overlap between being trans and having various neurodevelopmental differences.

I knew I was a girl because of the body type I had, not because of any special feeling. It definitely wasn't because of my preferences, I hated anything girly and was only interested in things for boys.

A cognitive difference meaning they see alternative realities?
There aren’t any. Refusing to accept reality doesn’t mean you can construct your own and expect others to believe it.

I understand that , and I wouldn't dispute it .
But not everyone is the same or has the same developmental trajectory.

Ah, yes, the inner feelz. Always tricky because I don't know what is it to feel like a boy, or another women for that matter. I can only know what it is to feel like me.

As a child I would gravitate to the male characters, the traditionally 'boy' toys and preferred practical clothing for playing. At that age I had recognised that boys had the cooler super powers, boys had better clothes, and their toys were more interesting to me. Socially, boys seemed to get away with more and when they played in the river they could take their top off to dry rather than trudging home shivering in a damp t-shirt. There is a clear cognitive recogition there of difference, it didn't make me a boy. I knew I was not a boy, despite perhaps wanting to be one because they seemed to have it better.

Part of that understanding is that sex is immutable. Before children will identify sex according to clothes, stereotypical behaviours etc. A child that is confused by clothes etc is not developing the understanding of fixed categories. Some keep this cognitive confusion longer than others.

The thing you are missing , though, is that theres really no place in this conversation for making evaluative judgements about what people "can and can't do".

That is futile.

Being trans is not a choice - at least for the vast majority of trans people.

It is of course possible that someone could "choose" to be trans , in the same way I suppose that someone could "choose" to be gay. But for most people it doesn't work like that. They really don't have any say as much as they might desperately wish to be otherwise.

People cannot change sex, that is an absolute, unassailable fact.
I get that some people refuse to accept this, certainly.

It's not about "changing sex" though. That's just a mantra some people say on repeat.

Being disabled is not my choice, that doesn't mean I can identify out of it. People may choose not to be trans but that doesn't make men into women.

“Gender identity = the cognitive understanding that "I am a woman/ girl" or "I am a man/ boy ".”

Except that ‘understanding’ is only their perception and is not based on the reality of having that experience of living in a body of that sex category. Just because someone declares that they ‘understand’ they are something doesn’t make them that something.

If everyone simply labelled their understanding of their experiences as something that doesn’t reflect material reality, there is no fucking coherence in the definition of anything. All the terms then become undefinable.

There are men who understand themselves as baby girls and wear diapers, there are people who understand themselves as lizards and live their life as lizards.

To the best of my knowledge, I don't think I have engaged with you before, so for my benefit would you be able to explain how being trans differs from my description above?

I agree with all of these statements. Except I don't really understand what you mean by "people may choose not to be trans".

As I said, for the vast majority of people being trans is not a choice. A person cannot "choose" not to be trans any more than you could chose not to be disabled. They may very well wish it were otherwise, but it's not something that can generally be helped or changed.

So you agree transwomen are men then? A male who doesn't choose to be trans is still male. Male and female are terms that describe bodies. We have different names for male and female animals, men and women are the ones used for humans.

If it can be a choice for any person to be ‘trans’, it means the statement ‘it isn’t a choice’ is false.

What is the difference between an effeminate man and a transwoman? What is the difference between a tomboy and a boy?

If it's not about changing sex, why do they need access to single-sex spaces? Why do they need to medically alter their bodies?

So you agree transwomen are men then?

No.
I agree that transwomen were identified male at birth, usually because they were born with a penis.

A male who doesn't choose to be trans is still male

I don't understand what this means?

For the majority of trans people, being trans is not something they have any control over . There may be some individuals who "chose" to be trans due to particular , very specific life circumstances. But this is not the norm.

Being born with a penis does make you male and that will never change even if the penis is removed at some point. If that male considers themselves trans, whether or not they choose to, he still remains male.

@puppymaddness

There's a thread here that goes into exactly the arguments you are putting forward in great detail. I really recommend you read it to avoid just repeating a well trod path of arguments that have already failed to convince or stand up.

Frankly, speaking as someone who is only GC because no one has ever made a convincing argument for the alternative, it would be great if someone were to start arguing for the supremecy of GI over sex from a position that acknowledges and deals with the arguments against this rather than one that is ignorant of or deliberately ignores them.

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womensrights/5422838-what-is-trans-and-why-does-it-justify-undoing-sex-in-law-society-culture-and-history?page=1

So, you don't have a coherent or cohesive definition then.

Great. I am glad that is sorted.