Government announces 10 Million pound boost to protect Muslim communities

[happydappy2]

https://x.com/DadRogd/status/1981327249870569889

this money will go towards CCTV, alarms and fencing round mosques….

Meanwhile there are SO MANY other areas of the country that are desperate for a financial boost….Why is this one religion put on a pedestal? This particular religion that doesn’t treat women as equals.

Google is often a good starting point if you don't know something.

https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=what+is+conservative+Christianity+

I doubt that Gaza has much time for anything at the moment other than trying not to get slaughtered.

I think you’re lying. What religious reason could be given

Well I do recall that women in Saudi couldn’t drive
Until the 2018 law change but this was objected to by the religious heads

when you say “what religious reason” well that’s rather daft because religious rules are made usually by men and they can make up anything they like. edit just like Christianity . But once it has the veneer of religion the devout follow it because that’s what faith is - faith that those men were following the word of God. And when you have multiple sects ( just the same as Christianity) you end up with groups following different rules with absolute conviction

Your post seems tad sarcastic.

I wanted to know what you meant by 'conservative', not a google definition.

Being on the 'same page' facilitates communication.

It's a common term, and I was using it in the common way. I think most people understand what it means.

Fair question.

Well I've never heard it before.

Making assumptions about what people do and don't know isn't helpful and causes confusion.

Also it only has meaning if the term is defined wrt actual churches.

People seem to want equivalence between religions when there isn’t that.

Government Announces theve spent 500 billion dealing with Muslim terrorists

We all make assumptions about what people know and don't know - we do it all the time, and conversations wouldn't ever flow properly we didn't make at least some assumptions.

It is likely that most people with a passing interest in current affairs will know what "conservative Christianity" generally refers to - it is hardly a niche term. I had assumed - perhaps wrongly - that people commenting on this thread might have such an interest and therefore a general awareness.

It's very common on these boards for posters to ask disingenuous "faux naive" questions about things which are seemingly obvious, usually because they want to pick a fight about semantics. It didn't occur to me that anyone would actually be unaware of a common concept like "conservative Christianity", and so I assumed that this was what you were doing. If you genuinely didn't know, then I apologise for making that assumption.

Please tell me this isn’t true, not in this country at least?

this information is available on the UK gov website. I just read about it 1st on X hence shared that tweet.

And controlling men will have even more desire to follow it.

Obviously funding is available for crime prevention measures for non-religious institutions - in fact far more than the £20m ringfenced for Jewish and Muslim institutions. We got funding for CCTV for our community centre from our local council. A quick google search shows that just London has a £52m fund for community crime prevention measures.

Your post equated an extreme application of Islam - forced hijab, being prevented from driving or being alone with a man - as a mainstream experience. That’s false.

I have no interest in generating content for shitposters, but if you’re so concerned about them why are you saying such absurd things?

Churches are not being set alight with people inside. The security for mosques and synagogues is about protecting people. Because the attacks on those buildings are based on hate, not theft or idle vandalism.

Fair enough.

Horrible thread

I was just going to agree with the above post but it got deleted for some reason - there's no place for Islam in feminism.

It was deleted because it was hate speech.

Where does this leave muslim feminists, such as many members of Southall Black Sisters? Or the Iranian Feminist Resistance? Or those advocating for women's rights in Afghanistan? Or the extremely active Malaysian feminist movement?

Saying women should be excluded from the feminist movement because of their faith is shameful.

If women can't speak clearly and freely on this subject then we are on very dangerous ground.

I'm reminded of how we weren't allowed to speak of the dangers of transgenderism on this board not that long ago, @mnhq don't need to embarrass themselves by being on the wrong side of history again.