Government announces 10 Million pound boost to protect Muslim communities

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https://x.com/DadRogd/status/1981327249870569889

this money will go towards CCTV, alarms and fencing round mosques….

Meanwhile there are SO MANY other areas of the country that are desperate for a financial boost….Why is this one religion put on a pedestal? This particular religion that doesn’t treat women as equals.

I guess it reflects the fact that right-wing disinformation currents have seized on a couple of women's rights/safety issues as one of the many arenas they are using to promote their divisive bullshit.

Well, you can't really argue that 1200 western women being sexually assaulted in one night by Muslims is a minor event. It's stuff like that turns people hostile.

This whole thread feels like fake rage bait. I can't see OPs post history, but I don't usually see blatently biased tweets like this posted on this sub. Usually women here are smart enough to post at least a news article from a credible source to open debate. Also, while violence in all forms is abhorrent, it's not phobic or hateful to point out the optics of making such an investment while simultaneously ignoring calls to seriously address the shortcomings of the rape gang scandal, and to take seriously the need to protect others from violence that was being perpetrated by people from this community in a very coordinated and organized manner. It's very uncommon to see so many posters pile on people who are pointing this out and defending cultural practices that are frequently and widely debated here due to harm they potentially cause other marginalized groups. So imma call this out. I'm guessing this is some coordinated trolling thing from reddit lurkers to gather fake screen grabs. Prove me wrong.

Thank you! I was born in the Uk but grew up in Saudi Arabia, there is no way Christians are allowed to build and worship in Churches in Saudi Arabia…you respect their way of life or leave. I just find it fascinating that our taxes are being used to provide security for places of worship, that some people feel are in direct conflict with our way of life, ie tolerance. I also think the optics are shocking in light of the imminent collapse of the rape gang enquiry. I fear that as a country we are tolerating the intolerable. ie women being forced to cover up in public.

You think we should be more like Saudi Arabia?

Yep. Very glad to see it hasn't worked (the targeting in an attempt to whip up hate).

But isn’t the essence of Britishness that we are a welcoming melting pot of cultures that shows tolerance and respect to those around us ?

One community isn't on a pedestal. They announce that Jewish communities will receive 10 million emergency injection of money for security on the 16th of October.

Not on a pedestal? Did I miss the government working groups on other types of religious ‘phobias?

So many people, these days, when they see others getting help, immediately whine “what about meee/us”. Sometimes it isn’t your turn.

Tbf, there does seem to be a fair bit of Islamophobia about. I think the cognitive dissonance for many is that Muslims as a group are not particularly tolerant in the whole scheme of things, which makes it hard for people to separate the two issues which must necessarily be done in these cases.

For example, over 50% of UK Muslims when surveyed stated that homosexuality should be illegal. However, it's not something that people really want to get into because it's an ideological belief that is unlikely to change anytime soon. So it gets chalked down as 'a difference of opinion' when pretty much anybody else to state such an opinion would be utterly crucified.

No I don’t think we should be more like Saudi Arabia. But I do think we should all be aware of where our taxes are spent, hence this thread. Are you happy that you’re working to pay tax to protect religious institutions that treat women as 2nd class citizens? That have some very intolerant beliefs?

We are aware where are taxes are spent. It's in the public domain e.g. the links to the government's own web pages on this thread. www.gov.uk/government/news/government-commits-more-funding-to-protect-uk-muslims

Nobody needs to get this information from racist Keith's rehashed tweets.

It’s a free country & we can discuss….not everyone shares yr view

Keith (quoted in OP) - "Remember, in UK there should only be British communities - integrate or leave."

OP - "respect the way of life or leave"

Are you Keith and did you learn all you know in Saudi?

For someone who specifically highlights tolerance as key to our way of life you seem pretty short on it.

It's not my view. It is a fact in the public domain.

Why did you/your parents choose to live in Saudi, a country which actively encourages, legislates for and punishes failure to follow what you describe as intolerable?

Another thing that’s better than Saudi eh?!

By definition, Orthodox anything is not mainstream. I agree that most organized religions and their historical doctrine doesn't align with modern feminist values, but to jump from "orthodox" practices to "mainstream" of the 3 main religions is a big stretch. Mainstream judiasm and Christianity, while also flawed, don't come close to oppressive nature of mainstream Islam. I don't know too many average, mainstream Christian or Jewish women who aren't allowed to drive a car, be alone in a room who isn't her husband, or put on a headscarf whenever she leaves the house. Your argument is ingenuine.

So your saying in mainstream Islam you can’t drive cars as a women?! Since when. And remember you said mainstream

Yes, I said the same thing another post and even reported OP. I don't believe OP posted this in good faith for a second I believe he is absolutely a troll as are most of the people who came here to bait the rest of us into typing something whatever-phobic so they farm screen grabs for their reddit swamps.

Will they spend more time protect us from the terrorost? Where is this money coming from

I'm in the US and we have separation of church and state so taxpayer money going to anything like this (typically) would never be tolerated. Don't get me wrong ong, there's a whole big effort to undermine that, but for the most part if any religious org wants to increase security of their buildings it's their responsibility to pay for it.

You could say the same about many first immigration ethnic groups that migrated from poor 'backward' villages in 50's, 60's & 70's who also had particularly archaic 'intolerant' views about women. I'm first generation Italian & those 'intolerant ' views died with my & my peers birth. If you had of surveyed our parents they would have said much the same as Muslims.

Are you suggesting intolerance is inherent? Because if you are, that would be Ahistorical particularly from a feminist & civil rights standpoint.

I think religion in general is a load of bollocks, and the world would be massively better off without it. Islam, Christianity, Judaism etc, it's all just ways to control people, generally based on what a few old men want.

But, even given all that, we should still be keeping people and their property safe. If we want to ensure that women aren't treated as second class citizens, then we should be making sure that happens via legislation, not by vandalising mosques and hurting people. So if we need to spend money to ensure that doesn't happen, then we should do that. Especially if it's likely to save money in the long run.

I’d like to see the government speak out against the sexism we hear from almost all religious institutions. I don’t want to see them selectively remove crime protection from just one type of religious building.

If we’re going to discuss our money protecting religious institutions which treat women as second class citizens I’d prefer to remove public money from religious indoctrination in school.