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Sadiq Khan cover up of London rape gangs

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defrazzled · 21/10/2025 08:34

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/2122808/sadiq-khan-grooming-gang-files

This is no surprise after his disgusting responses to the Mayoral Questions last year:

Here he is lying: https://www.google.com/search?q=sadiq+khan+rape+gang+issue+mayoral+questiohns&sca_esv=fbaa7d3b9c35fdd6&udm=7&biw=1445&bih=698&sxsrf=AE3TifPy7V-EXPq_LwF7YzJkipNKJdaksQ%3A1761031972512&ei=JDf3aI_3HqO5hbIPltjWgAI&ved=0ahUKEwiPmaOp47SQAxWjXEEAHRasFSAQ4dUDCBE&uact=5&oq=sadiq+khan+rape+gang+issue+mayoral+questiohns&gs_lp=EhZnd3Mtd2l6LW1vZGVsZXNzLXZpZGVvIi1zYWRpcSBraGFuIHJhcGUgZ2FuZyBpc3N1ZSBtYXlvcmFsIHF1ZXN0aW9obnNIqwtQ6wFYhQpwAXgBkAEBmAFroAGZBqoBAzguMbgBA8gBAPgBAZgCAaACBsICChAAGLADGNYEGEeYAwCIBgGQBgSSBwExoAf5CLIHALgHAMIHAzItMcgHBA&sclient=gws-wiz-modeless-video#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:4d0001a7,vid:noJCNh60lfk,st:0

He has to go.

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defrazzled · 21/10/2025 17:26

@Holluschickie in my community the most fearful are brown women, they know that a reform council will be horrific. None of the people I know who work with victims is a racist or feels the issue is caused by race. But the issue does involve race and without a clear, honest and proper discussion, the perpetrators will not be held to account and the cover ups will continue.
I also think it's important for those calling "racist dog whistle" to address what to me is an obvious truth. These men will also abuse in one way or another their wives, daughters, mothers and sisters. These women need support too.

Not discussing it is always the worst solution because then people like Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon use the crimes to create racists.

We have already seem this under the last failure of a government. How much longer must the poor women suffer gang rape, gaslighting, racism and violence to serve politicians personal agendas?

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defrazzled · 21/10/2025 17:27

@happydappy2 I agree, his "community" being labour members, MPs and activists.

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crumpet · 21/10/2025 17:29

Bringemout · 21/10/2025 13:48

I think I remember some girls saying they were trafficked to London to visit rapists connections (family, friends). I still find it bewildering that so many men could pick up the phone and find 20 other men to come rape a child. So no it wouldn’t be surprising would it to think the same offences could be happening in London given the sheer scale of the abuse elsewhere.

Pelicot had no problem in rural France. Cities must be so easy in comparison

OpheliaIsntMad · 21/10/2025 18:15

defrazzled · 21/10/2025 17:26

@Holluschickie in my community the most fearful are brown women, they know that a reform council will be horrific. None of the people I know who work with victims is a racist or feels the issue is caused by race. But the issue does involve race and without a clear, honest and proper discussion, the perpetrators will not be held to account and the cover ups will continue.
I also think it's important for those calling "racist dog whistle" to address what to me is an obvious truth. These men will also abuse in one way or another their wives, daughters, mothers and sisters. These women need support too.

Not discussing it is always the worst solution because then people like Stephen Christopher Yaxley-Lennon use the crimes to create racists.

We have already seem this under the last failure of a government. How much longer must the poor women suffer gang rape, gaslighting, racism and violence to serve politicians personal agendas?

This is so true.
If people don’t trust our politicians then it creates a vacuum for racists to exploit.
We need people who can be trusted to act in good faith in the interests of women from all communities.

miraxxx · 21/10/2025 18:23

defrazzled · 21/10/2025 14:41

An inquiry headed by a judge with no political affiliations would be good start!

Get a senior judge from outside the country as the ones in the UK seem too reluctant to get involved.

Bringemout · 21/10/2025 18:24

Holluschickie · 21/10/2025 17:15

I do need to read more about this.
As a brown woman myself, I firmly believe the safety of all women and girls must come first before any religious or cultural sensibilities. No ifs or buts.

Same here as another brown woman. No child should experience these horrors. I felt sick when it first came out, some of the stuff I read just haunts me.

I feel deeply ashamed that as a country we haven’t dealt with this forcefully and openly. I feel ashamed that we still have people in positions of leadership who don’t have the moral decency to want this dealt with and every single person involved held to account. I feel sick that children were abandoned and criminalised for being raped.

Who is it for? Who can possibly be so important that people can sleep at night full well knowing they are complicit in hiding crimes against kids.

I feel horrified by how the survivors have been treated by this sham of an inquiry. It’s one thing to say you didn’t know but we have people doing their best to make sure this doesn’t get proper scrutiny, you have people like Khan who will claim he didn’t know because he uses a different word for it (he’s a prick, a snivelling weasel of a man) , people moaning about racism. We are talking about things like sexual torture, threatening children with violence against their families. Can you imagine the terror these girls (and a few boys too) went through.

Oh I am fucking furious.

Bringemout · 21/10/2025 18:30

crumpet · 21/10/2025 17:29

Pelicot had no problem in rural France. Cities must be so easy in comparison

Thats a fair point, but the offenders in the Uk were often related, brothers, cousins, uncles etc. people were often offending in family groups. That deserves some attention I think.

hamstersarse · 21/10/2025 18:37

I just watched the video of SK squirming and avoiding the question about grooming gangs in London.

Why would he do that?

Would he do the same if it were white men targeting ethnic minority girls?

HermioneWeasley · 21/10/2025 18:53

Bringemout · 21/10/2025 18:30

Thats a fair point, but the offenders in the Uk were often related, brothers, cousins, uncles etc. people were often offending in family groups. That deserves some attention I think.

Yes, another issue with having people immigrating from areas with extremely clannish tribes and high rates of cousin marriage.

OpheliaIsntMad · 21/10/2025 18:56

Holluschickie · 21/10/2025 17:15

I do need to read more about this.
As a brown woman myself, I firmly believe the safety of all women and girls must come first before any religious or cultural sensibilities. No ifs or buts.

That’s exactly it.

LeftyInstrument · 21/10/2025 19:00

Ncforthis2244 · 21/10/2025 08:35

Oh dear OP. Maybe get off the express and turn off GB News 😂

Why don't you check get hold of the reports that reference these grooming gangs, watch the video of Khan denying there is any evidence of them and write to the Guardian?

anyolddinosaur · 21/10/2025 19:07

It's obvious there was a cover up in Rotherham for fear of encouraging racism. The same thing seems to be happening in London. Cover-ups certainly encourage racism when honesty and a willingness to prosecute sooner would have had less impact.

This shouldnt be right v left, this should be everyone determined to expose the truth.

Bringemout · 21/10/2025 19:29

If when the police first became aware of this stuff they had just cracked down hard on it then it would never have become a race issue. What they did was give a free pass to the worst men in a particular community to do what they want. I’m not so naive to think that there aren’t plenty of men from every culture who would happily do the most awful shit if they thought they could get away with it but our own institutions actively facilitated this. I still struggle to believe that actual children were labelled prostitutes.

A lot of this is tied up with who the victims are, if it had been an MP’s daughter the response would have been very different imo.

Spicyfruity · 21/10/2025 19:32

anyolddinosaur · 21/10/2025 19:07

It's obvious there was a cover up in Rotherham for fear of encouraging racism. The same thing seems to be happening in London. Cover-ups certainly encourage racism when honesty and a willingness to prosecute sooner would have had less impact.

This shouldnt be right v left, this should be everyone determined to expose the truth.

Well said.

There is also the issue of money. One victim took out a private case and won £425,000.

If all victims won cases against the government, the government would collapse.

Bringemout · 21/10/2025 19:35

HermioneWeasley · 21/10/2025 18:53

Yes, another issue with having people immigrating from areas with extremely clannish tribes and high rates of cousin marriage.

Yes, I think it very much related to cousin marriage and a code of silence around this kind of behaviour.

The thing that got me about the article was some of the women clearly identified they were harmed by their husbands but still saw the girls as complicit in their own abuse. It was dehumanising. Weirdly similar to how the police and social workers saw it so I would hesitate to say it’s rooted in cultural difference, just a disdain for girls and women generally.

I absolutely rate the young woman and her mum who clearly condemned the behaviour with no equivocation at all. it is difficult to reflect so honestly on your own communities shortcomings and I think it’s women like that who deeply care for other women that make all the difference. I would hope it’s a reminder that there are decent people in each community who would like to see justice done for every single girl.

Bringemout · 21/10/2025 19:36

Spicyfruity · 21/10/2025 19:32

Well said.

There is also the issue of money. One victim took out a private case and won £425,000.

If all victims won cases against the government, the government would collapse.

I would be happy for my tax money to go towards that. May be the only way the government learns anything.

TwistyTurnip · 21/10/2025 19:38

Ncforthis2244 · 21/10/2025 08:35

Oh dear OP. Maybe get off the express and turn off GB News 😂

Are you for real? Seriously? We’ve been hearing about Jeffrey Epstein for weeks now. Hardly anything about the grooming gangs. This isn’t right wing gutter press - it actually happened 🙄

OpheliaIsntMad · 21/10/2025 19:45

We are on the feminism : sex and gender pages … so most of the posters here get it and understand that supporting abused women or girls shouldn’t take second place to other issues.
When I posted about this issue on AIBU back in January I got a lot more push back. ( I’m not sure how to link to the post) .
Im really glad it’s been addressed again. I don’t understand why the safety of women and girls should take second place to transgender ideology or religious or cultural beliefs.

KitWyn · 21/10/2025 19:56

It is shocking that so many people, across so many professions, were willing to turn away and pretend the rape and torture of British children, in their thousands, wasn't happening. Details of the judges' sentencing reports still linger with me and fill me with incandescent fury.

They didn't deal with it when they first knew. So now it is so much bigger, so much more horrific and so much more shameful. Tough. We must have a full comprehensive drains-up of an Inquiry that looks at everything that allowed the Grooming Gangs easy access to vulnerable girls. Access which would often continue for many years, until the girls became too old to be of interest.

And the Inquiry must look at why the perpetrators believed they could get away with it, and why the gangs so often included multiple close relatives and/or centred on one family business.

And it must look at the factors that stopped those that could, and should, have intervened from doing their #@# jobs, and protecting the children.

Nothing short of this will be enough.

Spicyfruity · 21/10/2025 19:57

Bringemout · 21/10/2025 19:36

I would be happy for my tax money to go towards that. May be the only way the government learns anything.

I agree with you.

LavnderBlue · 21/10/2025 20:02

Appalling but not surprising - given previous deflections, redirections and obsfuscation.

EasternStandard · 21/10/2025 20:05

OpheliaIsntMad · 21/10/2025 19:45

We are on the feminism : sex and gender pages … so most of the posters here get it and understand that supporting abused women or girls shouldn’t take second place to other issues.
When I posted about this issue on AIBU back in January I got a lot more push back. ( I’m not sure how to link to the post) .
Im really glad it’s been addressed again. I don’t understand why the safety of women and girls should take second place to transgender ideology or religious or cultural beliefs.

Same. It shouldn’t.

defrazzled · 21/10/2025 20:08

There is a thread about Khan in AIBU and the OP is being smeared as a racist and people saying how much they love Khan. It's surreal.

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ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 21/10/2025 20:11

defrazzled · 21/10/2025 20:08

There is a thread about Khan in AIBU and the OP is being smeared as a racist and people saying how much they love Khan. It's surreal.

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And many admit they don't even live in London.