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Sadiq Khan cover up of London rape gangs

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defrazzled · 21/10/2025 08:34

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/2122808/sadiq-khan-grooming-gang-files

This is no surprise after his disgusting responses to the Mayoral Questions last year:

Here he is lying: https://www.google.com/search?q=sadiq+khan+rape+gang+issue+mayoral+questiohns&sca_esv=fbaa7d3b9c35fdd6&udm=7&biw=1445&bih=698&sxsrf=AE3TifPy7V-EXPq_LwF7YzJkipNKJdaksQ%3A1761031972512&ei=JDf3aI_3HqO5hbIPltjWgAI&ved=0ahUKEwiPmaOp47SQAxWjXEEAHRasFSAQ4dUDCBE&uact=5&oq=sadiq+khan+rape+gang+issue+mayoral+questiohns&gs_lp=EhZnd3Mtd2l6LW1vZGVsZXNzLXZpZGVvIi1zYWRpcSBraGFuIHJhcGUgZ2FuZyBpc3N1ZSBtYXlvcmFsIHF1ZXN0aW9obnNIqwtQ6wFYhQpwAXgBkAEBmAFroAGZBqoBAzguMbgBA8gBAPgBAZgCAaACBsICChAAGLADGNYEGEeYAwCIBgGQBgSSBwExoAf5CLIHALgHAMIHAzItMcgHBA&sclient=gws-wiz-modeless-video#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:4d0001a7,vid:noJCNh60lfk,st:0

He has to go.

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PronounssheRa · 21/10/2025 13:35

dropoutin · 21/10/2025 13:25

Why is it nonsensical? Are you saying we should assume by default that there are grooming gangs in every city, unless there's clear evidence to the contrary?

In a city as large as London with a population of around 9 million, yes it's nonsensical to assume grooming gangs aren't operating.

If you don't like the express then what about the BBC?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cq8zew2egjvo

A man in a black shirt sits in front of a white-framed window, looking serious. A leafy plant and a lit lamp are partially visible at the edges of the image.

Child grooming is 'catastrophic' in London, says survivor

Campaigner Chris Wild says data collection failures mask what he says is a "national crisis".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cq8zew2egjvo

SirEctor · 21/10/2025 13:37

dropoutin · 21/10/2025 13:25

Why is it nonsensical? Are you saying we should assume by default that there are grooming gangs in every city, unless there's clear evidence to the contrary?

Honestly, yes?

Same way I assume there are drug dealing gangs in every city or rapists or pimps or domestic abusers. Why wouldn't there be? Especially London, by far the largest city in the UK. If any specific form of crime is happening in the UK at all, it is definitely happening in London.

ArabellaSaurus · 21/10/2025 13:39

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy5qkq7zex3o

Here is an article from a (supposedly) perfectly respectable source, for those who can't countenance anything but pre-approved media outlets.

'In her resignation letter, external, Ms Reynolds said she felt the inquiry had become "less about the truth and more about a cover-up", while both women raised concerns about the two shortlisted chairs having backgrounds in policing and social services.

Safeguarding Minister Jess Phillips denied claims of a cover-up and insisted her government was "committed to exposing the failures" to tackle "these appalling crimes".'

A close up of a women showing head and shoulders. She is sitting at a press conference and looks out to the right of the image. She has large gold earrings and is wearing a vest top.

Two grooming gang survivors quit national inquiry panel

Fiona Goddard and Ellie-Ann Reynolds quit their roles in protest at how the government had handled the process.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy5qkq7zex3o

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 21/10/2025 13:40

dropoutin · 21/10/2025 13:25

Why is it nonsensical? Are you saying we should assume by default that there are grooming gangs in every city, unless there's clear evidence to the contrary?

Some curiosity might be a good idea I’d have thought?

EasternStandard · 21/10/2025 13:42

dropoutin · 21/10/2025 13:25

Why is it nonsensical? Are you saying we should assume by default that there are grooming gangs in every city, unless there's clear evidence to the contrary?

The ability to answer a direct question on the topic would be a start, not that goady nonsense from Khan.

APTPT · 21/10/2025 13:42

Brave women.

Sadiq Khan is an inadequate and a nonce-lover. Nothing new there.

Bringemout · 21/10/2025 13:46

dropoutin · 21/10/2025 13:25

Why is it nonsensical? Are you saying we should assume by default that there are grooming gangs in every city, unless there's clear evidence to the contrary?

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cq8zew2egjvo

A man in a black shirt sits in front of a white-framed window, looking serious. A leafy plant and a lit lamp are partially visible at the edges of the image.

Child grooming is 'catastrophic' in London, says survivor

Campaigner Chris Wild says data collection failures mask what he says is a "national crisis".

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cq8zew2egjvo

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 21/10/2025 13:46

ArabellaSaurus · 21/10/2025 13:39

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy5qkq7zex3o

Here is an article from a (supposedly) perfectly respectable source, for those who can't countenance anything but pre-approved media outlets.

'In her resignation letter, external, Ms Reynolds said she felt the inquiry had become "less about the truth and more about a cover-up", while both women raised concerns about the two shortlisted chairs having backgrounds in policing and social services.

Safeguarding Minister Jess Phillips denied claims of a cover-up and insisted her government was "committed to exposing the failures" to tackle "these appalling crimes".'

those women keep being inconveniently direct I think

Ellie-Anne Reynolds said

"For many of us, these [the racial and religious motivations behind our abuse] were not incidental factors; they were central to why we were targeted and why institutions failed to act. To erase that truth is to rewrite history."

a very inconvenient view for many of the people involved I suspect

Bringemout · 21/10/2025 13:48

I think I remember some girls saying they were trafficked to London to visit rapists connections (family, friends). I still find it bewildering that so many men could pick up the phone and find 20 other men to come rape a child. So no it wouldn’t be surprising would it to think the same offences could be happening in London given the sheer scale of the abuse elsewhere.

OpheliaIsntMad · 21/10/2025 13:53

TheCatsTongue · 21/10/2025 11:05

I find it strange how Khan (particularly on MN) seems to hold this mythical position where he will always be defended no matter how bad the state of London is.

I'm not surprised he has been so dismissive of this scandal, because he has been the same on all difficult matters and is more interested at being seen at the front of whatever festival/event is happening in London.

Obviously the rape gangs go back decades so he can't be blamed for lack of action, but he is another on a long list who would rather ignore them.

Absolutely agreed.
I started a thread on here in January 2025 .
Lots of posters happy to imply any criticism of Khan was racist which is one of the reasons these gangs have got away with it.

Are there grooming gangs in London?
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/grooming-gangs-london-mayor-sadiq-khan-stonewalling-tory-questions-b1205508.html

Are 'grooming gangs' in London? Sadiq Khan 'stonewalls' after being asked nine times

Susan Hall asks mayor nine times whether there are ‘rape gangs’ in the capital

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/grooming-gangs-london-mayor-sadiq-khan-stonewalling-tory-questions-b1205508.html

defrazzled · 21/10/2025 13:54

I live in the North. Near Rochdale, Oldham, Bolton, Bury, Keighley, Halifax, Huddersfield and Bradford. Its obvious to me that the white middle classes who read the Guardian despise working class people so much, that they easily cast us all as liars, racists and idiots. The bigotry is so strongly held that even on a female centred website like MN, in the feminist section, they come to pour scorn and smear us. Listen to all women. Except those coarse slags up North, they are liars.

But we aren't, and this is happening countrywide because the lives and safety of women and children matter less than the illusion of multiculturalism that wealthy towns and suburbs of London hold so dear.

You meet a lot more perverts when you're poor. And in this case the perverts have raped and prostituted many thousands of vulnerable children.

https://4w.pub/you-meet-more-perverts-when-poor/

The Police knew, social services knew and know it is happening now. And it is obviously happening in London, it is happening country wide. This is organised crime.

Maggie Oliver and Chris Wild are telling the truth. Listen to the women and believe them or this will never stop.

You Meet More Perverts When You're Poor

The pampered activists running our institutions have no idea what they're unleashing on women.

https://4w.pub/you-meet-more-perverts-when-poor/

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Bringemout · 21/10/2025 14:05

Oh this is so true, I lived in a cheap area in my 20’s. I was at times mistaken for a prostitute, quite aggressively at times. The local mosque got so fed up they started patrolling in hi-vis jackets and taking peoples registration numbers. They weren’t doing it for the girls btw, they utterly despised them. Their own sons were harassing girls in the street ofcourse but just elsewhere (often parked up outside schools).

biopd · 21/10/2025 14:19

it’s a scandal unfolding in real time. There won’t be repercussions for years though obviously because females don’t count.

JackandSallySkellington · 21/10/2025 14:21

dropoutin · 21/10/2025 09:09

So if I understand the article correctly, SK denied that there was evidence of Rochdale-style grooming gangs operating in London, while having read reports of sex crimes that Maggie Oliver claims indicate the existence of such gangs.

He hasn't denied having read the reports, just denied that they indicate what it's being claimed they indicate, right? Surely the key point is exactly what's in the reports and whether it was reasonable to support the conclusion he did.

An inquiry might be a good idea, but I don't see anything yet, without much more information, to incriminate him.

What’s the point? It’ll be another Bill Clinton dodge ‘depends what you mean by gangs… depends what you mean by rape… depends what you mean by minors’

SK and many others like him are hiding in plain sight.

dropoutin · 21/10/2025 14:21

SirEctor · 21/10/2025 13:37

Honestly, yes?

Same way I assume there are drug dealing gangs in every city or rapists or pimps or domestic abusers. Why wouldn't there be? Especially London, by far the largest city in the UK. If any specific form of crime is happening in the UK at all, it is definitely happening in London.

So there should be an enquiry into grooming gangs in every city in the UK then, regardless of what evidence there may or may not be for the phenomenon or a cover-up?

Dollymylove · 21/10/2025 14:23

JamieCannister · 21/10/2025 09:27

Why should London be magically different from Rochdale? Surely every mayor of every town (and certainly every town with large muslim populations) should be thinking that there's a high chance that it's happening in their tow, and that the absence of a big scandal is not evidence of anything, other than the possibility that Rochdale is a decade ahead of London in dealing with it

It IS happening in other towns. Its a country wide problem that has been swept under the carpet for decades 😡

JackandSallySkellington · 21/10/2025 14:24

dropoutin · 21/10/2025 14:21

So there should be an enquiry into grooming gangs in every city in the UK then, regardless of what evidence there may or may not be for the phenomenon or a cover-up?

Yes. It’s a national issue that is widespread enough to warrant active investigation.

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 21/10/2025 14:27

dropoutin · 21/10/2025 14:21

So there should be an enquiry into grooming gangs in every city in the UK then, regardless of what evidence there may or may not be for the phenomenon or a cover-up?

I’m sympathetic to the view that you don’t have enquiries for no reason

but SK had read a report describing girls being drugged, raped and threatened in London hotels.

A decent human might show some interest in that no? Rather than that repeated pantomime of being unable to understand Maggie Oliver’s question

you can’t possibly think his behaviour is tickety boo here?

defrazzled · 21/10/2025 14:37

@happydappy2 thanks for sharing that although it was not good for my blood pressure!

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SirEctor · 21/10/2025 14:38

dropoutin · 21/10/2025 14:21

So there should be an enquiry into grooming gangs in every city in the UK then, regardless of what evidence there may or may not be for the phenomenon or a cover-up?

Yes, a national enquiry sounds like a good idea to me.

defrazzled · 21/10/2025 14:41

An inquiry headed by a judge with no political affiliations would be good start!

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Anactor · 21/10/2025 14:43

“that they are pursuing an agenda”

Labour Party Member, by any chance?

If the Express, the Mail, GBNews or even the Sunday Sport think they have evidence of a political scandal, then they are not ‘pursuing an agenda’ by publishing it. They’re doing their job as journalists.

It’s entirely possible that, in a city of eight million people, there are grooming gangs. It’s also entirely possible that a bunch of journalists might hear about any gangs there are.

If the Mayor of London is confidently informing the Assembly that there’s no indication of grooming gangs, and yet the journalists have sources telling them there are… that’s a story, wouldn’t you say?

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