student university toilets

[cigarsmokingwoman]

DD is a 1st year student at a university in Scotland and frequently comes home (she commutes) bursting because she doesn't want to use the student toilets which are apparently all unisex with urinals. She tells me she wanders the building in vain for a female only toilet and even tries going to other student buildings and cannot find them. Yesterday she says she was walking around for 20 minutes before giving up out of desperation and using the unisex one. I wonder how many other universities are the same? It's appalling. DD will not complain or cause a scene but it makes her very uncomfortable.

There are single sex toilets though as many other posters have proven.

Oh wow, that must be the first site stuff thread that I ever inspired and I've been on MN for a good 20 years. I don't mind being named on it btw. I don't tell people to fuck off often, when I do I mean it and stand by it.

You didn’t read what I wrote.

Yes. Hard agree.

The reasons that someone might want a single sex spaces are moot when they have one and actually the OP did state that her daughter said that the men were essentially flashing her at the urinals. So in this case, perfectly apt.

They are never moot.

how dare you.

Yes it is moot when you have said they don't exist when they do. Probably for whatever reasons you want them!

And again. You haven’t read what I wrote.

the reasons women want single sex spaces are never moot.

Just use the disabled loos. Job done.

Please don’t.

Sounds like bollocks to me. All the university unisex toilets I know are individual lockable units.

Is there anyone who has current, in person knowledge of Stirling campus that can clarify the situation rather than posters"helpfully" Googling, which the OP (who has now been hounded off her own thread) could, and possibly did, have done for herself?

I know of at least one institution where toilets in one building were re-furbed/re-configured over the summer (to fully enclosed single occupancy) and they probably aren't the only one. Info on the 'net may not be up-to-date.

im a former mature student and still visit the campus fairly regularly, there are no mixed toilets in Cottrell, I can’t speak of pathfoot as it’s been a couple of months since I’ve been in there and maybe things have changed. But Cottrell is entirely single sex, if she’s seeing urinals she’s in the men’s toilets , the maze map will help her but I also described earlier where her nearest ones would be coming into Cottrell.
the gender neutral toilets in the INTO building are full cubicles all contained onto a corridor and I would assume that is the same for pathfoot gender neutral ones but they do still have single sex too, I’m just not aware of what the mixed ones look like in pathfoot.

Thanks, maybe that will be of some help to the OP if she's still lurking.

i know this thread has derailed slightly, but if OP is around, as dd is commuting in I’m guessing they live close so I’d really recommend going in tomorrow (or another weekend) the buildings will be open but pretty much empty, mooch about, have a look at all the women’s toilets, have a look together where the nearest toilets are to all her tutorials and lectures.

Cottrell can be confusing when you first begin but there is both the maze app (tell her to look on her student app it’s linked on there) and there is also a video on how to deal with the Cottrell room numbers and hallways on the Stirling website or YouTube

it does sound like she could possibly be struggling a bit at university? And wanting that time away at Costa etc, so just have a mooch around with her (there’s a lovely walk around the back of the Stirling court uni hotel where you can see the Wallace monument, so it’s not just a toilet research trip) and I guess see how she’s doing and if she’s struggling or just got confused about the toilets.

Her university is basically breaking the law. My university had a bonkers policy (written by a group of trans-identifying make students and their female allies
handmaidens ) Advise your DD to use the single cubicle Disabled loos. What she is experiencing is unacceptable - being jeered at by male students is horrible.

There's enough danger for female undergrads being groped and assaulted in student nightclubs. They shouldn't have to put up with it during the day as well.

I'm pretty sure that looking at a Maze map is not "proof". At my university they are frequently out of date. Unless there's an actual member of staff at Stirling who can walk into the buildings in question and show us the toilets she'll have seen ARE single sex, I believe the OP's daughter over the other posters.
In addition to this, I've walked into toilets on my own campus and seen a man come out of the cubicle when a) it's labelled as women's and b) we have a high proportion of Muslim students. It was particularly jarring to see a bloke in a skirt come out when one of the Muslim young women was checking her appearance in the mirror.

There was a former student that posted very recently. Will you only believe people who agree these toilets don't exist?

Things change annually, or even, frankly, weekly, so I'll believe someone who has been in this term and looked, rather than someone who left a few years ago.

My university used to have a “use whichever toilet affirms your gender.” After the SC decision , that policy has disappeared from the website.

I'm waiting for ours to go, I happen to have had sight of the new one which is better but it hasn't been updated on the website yet

@ParmaVioletTea ours still says that.

Tbh things in unis change all the time.

i can think of one institution where all toilets in one building are now single enclosed cubicles.

I was an ex-student, but as I said in my post, I am there regularly. I was there last week.

Cottrell has no mixed gender toilets, there are mens and womens. The INTO building near Cottrell has mixed gender toilets, those are floor to ceiling, fully self enclosed with sink etc toilets that open onto a hallway, you would not be walking into multiple people, they are single occupancy.

There are no toilets in Cottrell, where you will be walking into men using urinals apart from the men's toilets. This may be why her daughter was being laughed at, as she is likely to have been in the men's if this happened.

Pathfoot has separate toilets for men and women. The mixed gender ones, I have not been into, but I would assume they would follow the rest of the buildings, which are floor to ceiling indivudial cubicals opening onto the hallway. They may not be, but then there is the option of using the single sex ones, but I cannot guarentee that as, as I have said, have not used them but female ones exist.

The library in the atrium which is where all the shops etc are have female and male seperate toilet options.

I know someone is going to be like, anyone can lie about visiting etc, I don't have any from my visit last week, but I have a picture, mid August, dated in my photo reel, as I was trying to remember where I need to go back to, this is in the Cottrell building.

I really think OP should go with her DD and explore the toilets (as they live locally), and just have a talk about if maybe university is stressful and if she's looking for an "excuse" to not go onto campus (and zero zero judgement, I have been there) and if that's not the case, just walk her through the buildings, maybe on a late evening or weekend, when it will be nice and quiet and show her where all the female toilets are and if she got confused about it all and ended up in the mens, which again no judgement, if you're feeling stressed, Cottrell in particular can feel very maze like.