Charlie Kirk assassin was living with trans roommate

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May have been lovers, and sounds like he knew ahead of time that it was going to happen.

Charlie Kirk’s alleged assassin Tyler Robinson lived with transgender partner: source

I've wondered about the cognitive effects of massive amounts of gaming in teens.

I disagree. The UK very much had a New Left, student radical culture in 1960s. In fact Britain was arguably the intellectual source and template for its appearance in the US. For example, in the spat between the Hitchens brothers, Christopher Hitchens denied that he personally said that he'd rather see the red army in London than out of the Czechoslovakia, but admitted that many on the left did believe (and say things similar to) that - however he was Trotskiest (like Howe) and rejected repression, violence and authoritarianism. John Lennon's "Revolution" was a commentary on UK (and international) left wing radicalism "If you go carrying pictures of chairman Mao, you ain't gonna make it with anyone anyhow." (Maoism making a cult of violent revolutionary struggle)

It is the case that UK didn't have the actual violence the US had. And that's been historically true. There weren't the street brawls between the communists and fascists that were seen in the US, and especially Europe, during the 30s. And there wasn't the political violence of the Symbanese Liberation Army, Black Panthers or the Weather Underground of the late 60s and 70s. Though, there's an argument to be made (which you allude to) that that's an historical accident - the original IRA did style itself as a New Left liberation movement. But the movement split and the traditionalist elements became ascendant. The opposite happened in the in US with respect to racial motivated political violence, which was the primary focus of the most of the violent groups in the US.

I also think those cultural constraints against violence still operate in the UK - or maybe more correctly the cultural propensity for violence has continued to escalate in the US. But my caution is against complacency because it is an international phenomena.

In any case, the core of my argument isn't necessarily that the florid, violent rhetoric on the left is bad because it is the cause of actual violence. Certainly in specific cases I think it's a mistake to argue that too strongly - it's certainly a misrepresentation to say that the New Left was the cause of a Charles Manson. The problem is that it's corrosive, self-amplifying, and destroys the foundation of democracy by paralyzing legitimate debate, compromise, and rational coalition building.

No one ever said that a trans person was involved! But it's now clear that, as usual, us feminists were right, that 'trans rights' is what drove him. He is in a relationship with a transwoman. His own mother said he had been radicalised over trans 'rights'. He was sick of Kirk's "hatred". We were right. We were right all along. He is not some Groyper or far right person or maga. You'd think people would get so sick of us being right all the time and would just... believe us in future when we say it's about trans.

That text message “exchange” doesn’t ring true. It sounds like they fabricated it to exonerate Lance. I don’t believe it.

Of course heterosexuals can support gay rights.

But my point is that the language mum uses and the language Tyler uses (especially with his in-group) are likely to be quite different, even if on the surface the words are the same.

How so?
it rings very true to me, except that my mind is boggled by the killer’s naivety in thinking he could get away with it.

I think one thing that's very clear is that he was living in a fantasy world. We just don't know the exact contours of his fantasy world.

It doesn’t ring true to me either but I imagine the FBI will get to the truth.

You don’t know any of these things, apart from the relationship with the supposedly transitioning roommate - even that seems a bit dodgy right now as the text messages sound strange.

I wonder how many of the people who have been spinning the far Right shooter narrative will soon be talking about the equivalent of grassy knolls.

I think that's a racing certainty.

The far Right will do their own version of course. The actual story emerging doesn't properly suit the purposes of either side.

There's no such thing as a 'transwoman'

He was a gay man in love with another man.

There's no such thing as a 'transwoman'.

How so? Are you saying there aren't men that identify as women?

Are you new here?

'Transwomen' are MEN.

But maybe not seeing himself in that way?
Maybe seeing himself in love with the imaginary 'woman' and therefore different.

Yes. They aren’t a type of woman though and a man in love with a “trans woman” is either gay or bi.

This young guy doesn’t look like a woman, he doesn’t come across in any way as a woman from the evidence I’ve seen. He didn’t convince his family or neighbours that he was a woman. Because he isn’t a woman, he’s a man.

He can believe that but it doesn’t affect material reality. It is only one person’s philosophical belief about his identity. One not based on material reality.

Exactly.

Yes, men that identify as women. Gay men, straight men, liberal men, conservative men, are also all men. A transwoman is a man that identifies as a woman.

Yes. So personally I refer to them as men, not women. That’s I imagine why the pp said there is no such thing. She doesn’t acknowledge that they are in any way different to other men.

But I think they are different. It's not exactly a typical way for men to feel.

I mean, if transwomen aren't a thing then there's surely no need for GC feminism because standard feminism already addresses the issues men cause.

How are they materially different to other men?