Charlie Kirk assassin was living with trans roommate

[ThatZanyFatball]

May have been lovers, and sounds like he knew ahead of time that it was going to happen.

Charlie Kirk’s alleged assassin Tyler Robinson lived with transgender partner: source

Go back and read what I wrote and it will answer your latest question. Reading comprehension is a vital skill to practice after all.

but at least were all distracted from Trumps stroke though eh?

You've just proven you don't care about evidence unless it aligns with your agenda.

Christ alive i can hear the spittle hitting the phone.

no that’s a facetious throw away remark, we dont pay enough attention to that butter knife to be distracted away from him.

I think framing this as a 'pro trans' murder won't likely have the effect many think it will.

People are extremely reluctant to criticise perceived minorities so it's far more likely we'll be seeing articles about the 'transphobic backlash' and rise in hate crime against trans individuals.

This is exactly what happens following every terror attack. There is much reporting on the attack itself but you never see much in depth discussion of the radical Islamist views that drove the attacker. Certainly there will be much more discussion on how normal law abiding Muslims now feel unsafe. This will likely be the case with the transgender community here.

CK's death has already ignited huge amounts of discussion about his 'racist views' so I can absolutely see 'transphobic views' being discussed as well. Any widespread discussion and sympathy for the backlash against innocent trans and non binary individuals is highly unlikely to endear those viewed by the left as 'terfs'.

It didn’t answer it, guess you need to help poor me and my bad reading comprehension out by making it clear what “massive leap” you are referring to. If you think it’s been made up that he has a trans boyfriend, you’re in cloud cuckoo land.

Oh well, and women campaigning for sex based rights were so popular with “the left” before! All we know is that he had a trans boyfriend. That may or may not have any relevance to his motivation.

Depends which papers you read. If you read Telegraph, Times, Mail you'd definitely see discussion of Islamist views.

And usually such discussion is seen as being 'racist' with much talk of 'gammons', flag waving wife beaters, and the 'Daily Heil'.

Yes, they shouldn't be dismissed. It is true many people at the TR protests had DV convictions though.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/uk-riots-how-many-reported-domestic-abuse-396063/&ved=2ahUKEwjm6oLPvdmPAxXoQEEAHZCfBCQQFnoECDEQAQ&usg=AOvVaw1le7HxX2xo0MNLWLZu5BYF

If somebody is deemed to have been pushed over the edge by transphobic discourse then no doubt that discourse will be under the lens.

Indeed. However, they now seem to be regarded by many as the face of all those who have concerns about immigration. I'm not sure it'd be great for GC people to get lumped in with the far right. Of course this may not happen but certainly some will be pushing that narrative.

But how do
you know that? He’s also a member of a family, who he probably spends just as much time with as his partner. Quick! Lets examine the discourse of family values pushing him over the edge. Or better yet the discourse of gunowners? Or the glorification of violence and lone gunmen/ domestic terrorists by america.

admit theyre making a choice to focus on trans discourse for a reason. They could focus on any number of things, hes not even proven guilty yet. This is making news, under a guise of reporting it. Propaganda plain and sinple.

I say this as somebody who thinks self ID is a bonkers idea but also finds a lot of the GC contingent a bit monomaniacal.

Problem with facetious throwaway remarks is that they're a bit like "banter" - best avoided in polite company unless you know everybody else agrees with you.

And when it's pointed out, best not to try to defend it...

I also don't understand why linking the alleged assassin's apparent relationship with a trans identifying man with the shooting happening when Kirk was discussing transgender violence is "a massive leap".

Seems a short step to me

Well bless you for thinking mumsnet is polite company.

the link to trans ideology is a speculative as any link to any other ideology or reasoning at this point and yet this is where the media narrative is being written and built upon.

You think its a a short step? Sounds more like a goosestep and we had all better watch out.

"... Sounds more like a goosestep and we had all better watch out."

Now that is a massive leap!

How so?

Have you heard of a group called the “Zizians”? Currently being detained in connection with six murders in three states. Led by Jack LaSota, aka Andrea Phelps, who claims to be a “transgender woman”.

”Only” shooting rather than blowing up, and only (I think) LaSota identifies as trans; does that warrant your attention? Do you think they mean business (or did before they were apprehended)?

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/2/18/judge-orders-leaders-of-cult-like-zizian-group-to-be-held-without-bail

Discourse varies greatly from shooter to shooter though. The common denominators are always access to guns, mental health problems & inflammatory discourse. Leaning on the discourse subject matter distracts from the root causes.

Wow. I haven’t seen any “damning” evidence that the shooter is trans ( and that’s strange terminology to use, anyway, isn’t it - it is not a crime to be trans, have a trans partner, or even - !!! - be leftist). I’ve only seen anecdotal news stories and a statement from the Utah Governor looking very nervous. Where’s your damning evidence? I do hope you’re not talking about KF. That’s not evidence.

I didn’t say the shooter was “trans”, did I 🙄 It’s his boyfriend, who appears to be cooperating fully with the authorities who is “trans”. HTH

You were replying to this post:

”Because it’s sooooo convenient to their anti trans agenda. And it’s a such a massive leap that even Sam Beckett is giving it side eye.
it hasnt been proven in a court of law that he did it or what his motives are. Yet trial by media out in full force.
i have been vocal on this site about my reticence to embrace trans rights when they are overriding women rights, and the needs of vulnerable women, but even I think this kind of narrative weaving is beyond ridiculous. Trans people are just people, not an enemy other to dehumanise and find reasons to hate.
but at least were all distracted from Trumps stroke though eh?”

So no, not about the other guy. Why can’t you be honest for once? You’re also over the threads saying no-one should speculate, but here you saying the evidence is damning and the “partner” is trans - where really, no such evidence (of trans) exists. Maybe take a break.

You seem awfully confused, VoulezVous.

The damning evidence that Ereshkigalangcleg is clearly referring to is the evidence which tends to show that the alleged shooter is indeed the shooter. Of course the case has yet to go to trial, so yes, innocent till proved guilty in law; but there doesn’t seem to be any doubt being raised in any quarters about the soundness of this arrest.

Separately, multiple news outlets have reported that he - Robinson - was in a romantic relationship with his roommate, and that the roommate identifies as trans. The Governor of Utah is on record saying this, presumably on the basis of some evidence, presumably connected to the police investigation. About which I’m pretty sure the Governor of Utah knows more than you do. Unless you’re about to tell us how the UPD/FBI etc are keeping you personally in the loop, ahead of said Governor?

I think you’re the one who needs to take a break.

Nighty night.

I’m specifically referring the claims of ‘trans’ - not the shooting itself. You may want to read my post again.

Given the Utah Governor is Republican, and so is quite partisan, any claims he makes at this point should be taken carefully. I would say the same if it were a Democrat Governor suggesting the opposite.

Most news outlets reporting the trans angle are right-wing.

The suffragettes were way more violent than the trans lobby

Sorry but that is absolute bullshit. Get back to us when you find evidence of the suffragettes bringing wire-covered baseball bats to rallies, when you find evidence of the suffragettes fracturing a 72 year old man's eye socket, saying all men should be raped, saying bash a man if you see one, and get back to me when you find evidence of the suffragettes saying these things to men and that this is what men should go through (only 5 out of a folder of around 700 violent threats death, assault and rape threats), so almost impossible to pick just 5):