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Graham Linehan arrested on arrival at Heathrow Part 4

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IDareSay · 07/09/2025 21:33

These threads have mostly been used to follow the case that has taken place at Westminster Magistrate's Court over the 4th and 5th September, (and will continue on the 29th October), but were created to follow the fallout of Graham's arrest at Heathrow on his return to the UK for this court case last week, and what is allegedly a conspiracy of TRAs to intimidate and harass a number of people, including Graham, with the alleged support of various police services.

He is currently on trial for alleged harassment of a trans identified male and criminal damage to the man's phone. The charges stem from a series of events in October 2024 at Battle of Ideas.

Part 1 here
Part 2 here
Part 3 here
Graham's account of the arrest here
You can support his Substack here
Or buy him a coffee here

Free Speech Union are running a fundraiser to support a claim against the Met in reference to the Heathrow arrest. Just search FSU and Graham Linehan fundraiser and it should be easy to find. At the time of posting it has reached 64% of its stretch target.
The FSU have managed to get the bail condition that @Glinner must not post on X removed, so he is now freely posting on there again.

Most of the mainstream media have reported on the case, but none have covered it as well as Nick Wallis. Follow him on X for live posting from the court again on 29th October.
You can support Nick here (posted Friday 5th September):
"I am deeply grateful to everyone who has seen fit to bung me the cost of a coffee, a pint or even a bloody London pint since I found out I was able to come back today. If you think you can afford to make a small donation, there’s more info here:"
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Arrested again! Details on his Substack. This is beyond a joke; 5 armed officers! [[https://grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/i-just-got-arrested-again ht...

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5403191-graham-linehan-arrested-on-arrival-at-heathrow?page=1

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BiologicalRobot · 09/09/2025 23:43

Surely unless she actually has Miller's account logins (and uses them) then she can't be held responsible for his tweets, or the ones others make on the other account? When did that law get passed?

UtopiaPlanitia · 10/09/2025 02:39

I listened to Lucy Manning's segment about Glinner on The World Tonight (8/9/25) and I wasn't impressed.

To my (Irish) ears it sounded like she was tone policing him: she didn't like HOW he was saying what he was saying and she doesn't like the fact that he doesn't appear to feel sorry for what he said.

She seems to view him as bringing the tone of the 'debate' down, and she somehow seems to hold him responsible for the 'bitter' tone of the 'transgender debate'. She's not engaging properly with his points and she's framing the issue without considering women's rights at all.

This isn't analysis of the issue in my view, it's just using her platform as a journalist to state her dislike of him. And she always refers to him tweeting about 'transgender people' rather than specify that he's referring to the dangers of males in female spaces.

GallantKumquat · 10/09/2025 02:43

I was just listening to an interview Helen Joyce gave a few days ago and she mentioned that she recently found out that a hate incident had been opened up against her of the same sort that Linehan was arrested for. I find that quite extraordinary given her extreme care with language and measured (and moderate) social media use.

For example she's routinely bated by Julia Hartley-Brewer and Alex Philips when she appears on TalkTV, but she never joins in with their (often justified) rants, keeping her own comments objective and factual and only agreeing so far as she's able to qualify her views within those parameters. Given her prominence and care, truly if a hate incident can be opened against her, then one can be opened against anyone.

WarriorN · 10/09/2025 06:42

I actually feel like the Helen Joyce disclosure should have its own thread.

shes also not the only one.

WarriorN · 10/09/2025 06:44

I would not be surprised if Nick Wallis is writing a book about all this with a particular slant on how TRAs abuse systems and people and how governments fall foul to it.

it’s along the lines of the post office and infected blood scandals.

TheAutumnalCrow · 10/09/2025 07:10

JenniferBooth · 09/09/2025 21:50

Thats exactly whats happening with facial recognition re shoplifting. Ppl having their names on a blacklist without knowing about it. Ppl who have never shoplifted in their lives. But plenty on MN think its an ok price to pay to catch shoplifters, To have innocent ppl as collateral damage, I believe "two tier" is the phrase.

Yes, agreed; MN shoplifting threads are fucking mental.

EasternStandard · 10/09/2025 07:46

R4 annoying on this rn. Going for the police when it’s the laws that are the problem.

KeepTalkingBeth · 10/09/2025 07:48

Yes @UtopiaPlanitia

She seems to view him as bringing the tone of the 'debate' down, and she somehow seems to hold him responsible for the 'bitter' tone of the 'transgender debate'. She's not engaging properly with his points and she's framing the issue without considering women's rights at all.

So many people are like this, aren't they? "I can't be bothered to research these issues and women's rights would never cross my mind. Why are you so worked up? It's unseemly. Why can't you just be kind?".

These people think this sort of attitude makes them look mature and conciliatory. In reality they come across as lazy, intellectually challenged and, at worst, misogynistic.

NebulousDog · 10/09/2025 07:49

I’ve just realised that Emma Barnett (R4 Today about 7:40) is grilling Sir Mark Rowley about Linehan’s arrest. Talk about a rabbit caught in the headlights!!

nauticant · 10/09/2025 07:53

Rowley was asked if the Police were "scared" to not arrest Linehan. You would have expected him to say "of course not". Instead he said "I wouldn't say scared."

That was remarkably revealing.

EasternStandard · 10/09/2025 08:00

NebulousDog · 10/09/2025 07:49

I’ve just realised that Emma Barnett (R4 Today about 7:40) is grilling Sir Mark Rowley about Linehan’s arrest. Talk about a rabbit caught in the headlights!!

I thought he was right. It’s pointless going for the police, we have ridiculous laws which try to monitor tweets to the extent they do.

PachacutisBadAuntie · 10/09/2025 08:04

NebulousDog · 10/09/2025 07:49

I’ve just realised that Emma Barnett (R4 Today about 7:40) is grilling Sir Mark Rowley about Linehan’s arrest. Talk about a rabbit caught in the headlights!!

I wish she'd asked him how the police manage to use their 'discretion' to not pursue all the reports from women who are being abused and harassed online. Maybe it's because they're not scared of women.

RedToothBrush · 10/09/2025 08:08

BiologicalRobot · 09/09/2025 23:43

Surely unless she actually has Miller's account logins (and uses them) then she can't be held responsible for his tweets, or the ones others make on the other account? When did that law get passed?

You might have missed the memo but it doesn't matter what the law is, you can still 'get ahead of the law' Stonewall style and have a police record which says you have criminally harassed someone in this country without even knowing about it or being convicted in a court.

The law is irrelevant. It's whether you have the power to abuse the law that matters.

nauticant · 10/09/2025 08:14

The thrust of the discussion was Barnett asking Rowley whether the Police could have used their discretion not to have caused the fiasco at Heathrow. Rowley denied that the Police would have had any discretion. Barnett put forward a nice argument to show that the Police do have discretion.

Rowley wants the narrative to be that everything about this is defined by the law and therefore the Met are completely blameless and everything is on the government. The reality is that there is discretion that the Police don't apply when they're acting to benefit trans activists. This would suggest that the Police are ideologically aligned with trans activists to some degree and/or are afraid not to do their bidding.

I think there will need to be a group action against the Police. Such a move is actually possible, there was one recently about the Police turning a blind eye to violence being carried out by police officers against their partners.

BruachAbhann · 10/09/2025 08:17

lcakethereforeIam · 09/09/2025 21:40

Stella O'Malley in Spiked on the silence in the Irish media on Glinner's arrest

https://www.spiked-online.com/2025/09/09/why-are-the-irish-media-silent-about-the-persecution-of-graham-linehan/

Great article. At least some Irish journalists have the courage and integrity to speak out. It's tumbleweed in the Irish media on this issue generally. Her last line sadly rings true.

'We have been here before – through the Magdalen laundries, through the scandals of clerical abuse, through every dark chapter when silence was chosen over honesty. Saying nothing is not clever. It is the same old Irish solution to an uncomfortable truth.'

I've always been flabbergasted that Helen Joyce, despite being Irish has had in total one interview (in the independent) and the silence is deafening on Graham's Linehan's arrest. I've only heard of the Irish voices in this field through research on this site and other social media sites. There are plenty of us out there but noone is talking about it!

nauticant · 10/09/2025 08:19

Ahh, it isn't necessarily a group action against the Police, it might need to be a super complaint, for example:

https://www.centreforwomensjustice.org.uk/news/2023/1/27/police-perpetrated-domestic-abuse-super-complaint-how-the-police-will-improve-their-response-to-ppda-allegations

Shortshriftandlethal · 10/09/2025 08:28

It annoys me that it has taken for Graham Linehan, a well known comedy writer, to be arrested to draw attention to what has been happening to unfamous women for years for failing to bow down to gender ideology; and to women who have not conducted themselves in the provocative, inflammatory way that Linehan sometimes does. He is not always particularly sympathetic.

EasternStandard · 10/09/2025 08:31

The police are asking for change now. I want the system of harassment and vexatious complaint to end. I think it’s wrong to have the laws we do.

KeepTalkingBeth · 10/09/2025 08:32

nauticant · 10/09/2025 07:53

Rowley was asked if the Police were "scared" to not arrest Linehan. You would have expected him to say "of course not". Instead he said "I wouldn't say scared."

That was remarkably revealing.

Bloody hell

How weak are our institutions that a few highly motivated individuals can manipulate them at will?

Abhannmor · 10/09/2025 08:37

BruachAbhann · 10/09/2025 08:17

Great article. At least some Irish journalists have the courage and integrity to speak out. It's tumbleweed in the Irish media on this issue generally. Her last line sadly rings true.

'We have been here before – through the Magdalen laundries, through the scandals of clerical abuse, through every dark chapter when silence was chosen over honesty. Saying nothing is not clever. It is the same old Irish solution to an uncomfortable truth.'

I've always been flabbergasted that Helen Joyce, despite being Irish has had in total one interview (in the independent) and the silence is deafening on Graham's Linehan's arrest. I've only heard of the Irish voices in this field through research on this site and other social media sites. There are plenty of us out there but noone is talking about it!

Well there's been a few articles in Irish newspapers. But virtually all chanting the Twaw mantra in various forms. Most recently Suzanne Harrington and Jennifer O Connell. There was a virtual media blackout on the Barbie Kardashian affair of course.

PachacutisBadAuntie · 10/09/2025 08:42

teawamutu · 08/09/2025 09:53

If anyone missed it - The Two Matts podcast devoted the second half of their main episode this week to Glinner, and I thought it was fair and balanced: https://feeds.acast.com/public/shows/648c40140701dc00113b4626

Having braced for Rory and Alistair-style centrist dad 'fault on both sides' bloviating I was very pleasantly surprised.

Just listening to this and I think it's an excellent introduction for the uninitiated and covers a lot of ground. I have no idea how popular the podcast is. Are they usually so terfy?

www.podbean.com/ea/dir-2wres-2751997d

borntobequiet · 10/09/2025 08:44

nauticant · 10/09/2025 07:53

Rowley was asked if the Police were "scared" to not arrest Linehan. You would have expected him to say "of course not". Instead he said "I wouldn't say scared."

That was remarkably revealing.

Absolutely. Good for Emma for pushing it - though most of the audience won’t understand the implications.

nauticant · 10/09/2025 08:45

KeepTalkingBeth · 10/09/2025 08:32

Bloody hell

How weak are our institutions that a few highly motivated individuals can manipulate them at will?

I think the problem is that trans activists are pushing at an open door, ie it suits the Police to do their bidding. In my view that'll be a mixture of the Police approving of trans activists being able to control non-compliant women, to get Brownie points from the Establishment and the progressive political class for supporting the most marginalised group in (precarious) existence, and avoiding the inconvenience of being on the receiving end of a complete pain-in-the-arse campaign from trans activists.

RayonSunrise · 10/09/2025 08:46

TheAutumnalCrow · 10/09/2025 07:10

Yes, agreed; MN shoplifting threads are fucking mental.

I’ve noticed! Apologies for the derail, but there was a shoplifting thread the other day where people were practically crowing over being default treated as potential thieves in supermarkets. It was bizarre.

Talkinpeace · 10/09/2025 08:48

EasternStandard · 10/09/2025 07:46

R4 annoying on this rn. Going for the police when it’s the laws that are the problem.

Except that the Police are INCREDIBLY subjective and biased about which posts they arrest for.

The death and rape threats against named women are far far worse than anything Glinner has ever posted

but the police CHOOSE not to apply the law in those cases.

The Police are the problem because of the way they apply the law.

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