Posting upton’s old photos and name on twitter

[Biggadyboom]

Look I’ve been in these discussions since before this forum existed. You don’t need to break it down for me. I peaked in 2018.

But the endless sharing of upton’s name accompanied by photos and horrible comments about him and his wife is not nice. It is totally is transphobia. It’s horrible.

I could kind of understand the point of it, if it was just the name being shared.

But equally the court has ruled that Upton has a right to privacy. I thought it was all about respecting court’s rulings?

but the sharing of private photos (presumably grabbed from social media) and especially their wedding photo with insults to both of them and speculation about their marriage is awful and will not help their be a resolution to this debate. It polarises it even more and is transphobia.

fair enough, don’t let Upton change the rules of the country and workplace based on personal beliefs . But that doesn’t involve posting personal information and photos , insults and horrible speculation.

or are we just going low now?

Why are you assuming it is people from here? Twitter is a big place much bigger than Mumsnet

Fair enough, not necessarily wanting to assume that. Although I think there’s a chance of a reasonable cross over .

I guess I’m wanting a discussion about it really as that’s not possible on twitter.

Given what Upton has put Sandie Peggie through, not to mention his behaviour towards all the other women who had no choice about being his audience, I don’t give a damn.

The court is a first tier employment tribunal and the ruling was solely to remove Theo Upton’s name from the final submissions.. Naomi Cunningham in effect warned about the ‘Streisand effect’ and said that his name was already public so it was a meaningless request. However the Respondant’s KC continued and the court granted it.

I don’t agree with bringing Upton’s wife into it but for Upton himself reap what you sow. He changed in female changing rooms causing distress to women and there are indications in the evidence in the court case, and in the Trust dropping the investigation into Sandie Peggie’s competency, that a case was manufactured against Sandie to punish her for objecting to being forced to change in front of a man.

Unless these photos and comments have been shared on a Mumsnet thread, it's bugger all to do with us.

I agree, it's childish behaviour and doesn't serve any purpose other than to feed in to the image that GC's are petty and nasty.
The tribunal itself is revealing what sort of person he is.

Like I said, I can kinda see the point if it was just the name. I understand all that, I have been following the trial.

the photos and insults are something else and are abuse. Two wrongs do not make a right.

Do you post replies to the people who actually do this? You know, on Twitter, where it’s happening?

How utterly bizarre to come to one forum and blame people here for posts on another forum.

So this has been shared on Mumsnet has it? Could you share the posts where this has happened? Or report them.

This. I could not give a tiny shit about how that disgusting man or his wife feel.

Women! You are responsible for everything posted on the internet!

Like I said, I think it’s reasonable to assume a cross over. It’s not possible to discuss on twitter and I was wanting a discussion about it because it made me feel very uncomfortable

it’ll peak people in the opposite direction

Is it transphobic to call a man a man? pls define transphobia....

People will want to illustrate that a couple of years ago Upton was just an average looking bloke. Why should he be allowed in women’s spaces just because he now says he’s a woman? It’s gaslighting and of course people are going to want to call it out.

His wife and posse including his dad turned up at the court and they made a big, ridiculous performance of special treatment for him, involving a wall of his friends and family behind him for support. Of course people are going to be curious about his relationships with them.

I think it’s reasonable to assume a cross over

Why is this reasonable to assume? Do you think posters here are the only active internet users who care about the injustice to Sandie Peggy? You don’t think it could be, you know, other people?

It’s not transphobic to call a man a man , but it is to post endless private photos including wedding photos with comments like « pervert and enabler » under them.

Honestly given what Sandie Peggy went through and his absolutely appalling behaviour to her I really don’t care.

I’m on Twitter but don’t follow Mumsnet fwr for what it’s worth.

the tribunal has made fairly clear that Upton made personal records of women he considered transphobic and was going to considerable effort to provoke an incident.

Logically it is not acceptable for Upton to demand privacy (or for his KC to demand it) when he refused to allow others their privacy

I don't agree with the comments using pictures of his wife, and I wouldn't personally post his old pictures. But that's a decision I make for myself not because his KC decided no one would know he's a man.

I think people are posting his pictures to show that he is male and that's rather the point of this whole thing.

Not all mumsnetters are on X - I'm not, for a start. Think there are quite a few of us judging by comments on other threads. If you use it call out anything you think is unacceptable on there, not much point starting a thread here.

Ok well fair enough. it wasn’t you, it was those other kids. Those naughty ones over there. I get it.

Could I ask then that we could discuss it without the childish « wasn’t us » comments?

No it isn't reasonable to assume a cross over. Just because a person is on two/more platforms doesn't mean they suddenly "go low" on one. Usually their behaviour stays the same no matter the media.

Bearing that in mind can you please point out the posts on MN that upset you enough to come here and berate an entire forum?

Abuse should never be directed at anyone.

Theodore Uptons wife is not his keeper. She should be kept out of it.

However, people are understandably at the end of their tether with the deliberate obfuscation of the fact that Theodore "Beth" Upton is a man. There has been a real concerted effort by the NHS Fife, and the media to conceal this fact with select blurry photos and words like "transgender woman".

So yeah tough moobs for Teddy isn't it.

Maybe he should have kept his male bodied person out of female sex spaces, and not attempted to destroy an older female nurse's career of over 30 years?

So abuse is never ok!

Sharing pictures of his wife, absolutely not ok!

Sharing his name and old pictures of him in his scraggy beard to highlight that this man is a man, I can understand and don't have a problem with.

Streisand effect in full force for Theodore. Should have kept out of women's stuff shouldn't he?

I can't work up any sympathy for him on this.

And to echo the other posters, why are you telling us? It's nothing to do with us.

If, like me, you dont use X then you have no idea what the thread is about - so how can you sensibly discuss it? You shouldnt want to draw attention to behaviour you think is bad by posting links to it.

It really won't

Seriously? So we’re all lying when we say we’re either not on X or that we haven’t posted anything about Theodore Upton? It’s clear you’ve just come here looking for a fight, how childish. Away with you.