Charity rejects disabled child for mother's GC views

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Pretty shocking but it seems they think they're right.

Wonderful - perhaps you can explain to me how the pelvis on the left becomes the one on the right by the use of the magic words "I identify as a woman"?

or why absolutely no one has ever sought out a TW as a surrogate?

or why it was ok for the male chief executive of Edinburgh rape crisis centre to tell rake survivors to "reframe their trauma"?

or you know you could take your ignorance and fuck off to Reddit to the TWAW echo chambers

summer camps where the adults don't attend

A 17 year old unvetted applicant who has access to an 8 year old and adults who willing and knowingly tell the child lies. The 8 year old will have been told by the adults (who have physical control of all access to food water etc) to accept what the 17 year old or any other person has said as being true just because they said it.

You would not see any problem here at all would you?

Please don't weaponise suicide to try to support your point. Yes, children and young people have appalling mental health issues. There is also no evidence that has been deemed as high quality that shows that the current treatments are improving the long term mental health of this group of child patients.

If you have evidence of which treatments improve the long term health of these children, please, link them up.

And please, by all means, send your evidence to the countries who have done substantial reviews on the studies who deemed there to be not enough evidence of high enough quality to support these treatments. Those countries are : Sweden, Norway, Germany, UK. France and Denmark too I believe.

So, link that evidence up so we can all see it please because it must be something that has been missed. Otherwise, please stop from spreading misinformation.

It was proven that the suicide rate for trans teens was no greater than any other group. Even a trans man lawyer admitted this in court.

I'd also love to know how you know what gender a person is?

I think you mean sex. Since no one can see 'gender' since it is a feeling in someone's head. The fact that you think females can't spot a man shows is staggering. How did society flourish and breed for millennia until now, without needing xrays? Really!

No I as a RAPE SURVIVOR will not be gaslit by hateful people like you to call a male 'she' just as I won't call Rachel Dolezal an African American.

Pronouns are the gateway to males exposing their penis in female spaces. And btw, it's about gait; height, limb length, lack of hips, voice, adams apple, philtrum width, male facial skull and jawbone etc etc It is not about 'bigger' or 'masculine looking' people. It's about the skeletal structure. Evidence shows from actual university studies that women can tell sex accurately 96% of the time. Your ideology is hateful and relies on women pretending they don't see with their eyeballs and ignore their lived experience as the oppressed sex class.

Here you are:
Hospital told police patient was not raped because alleged attacker was transgender

‘Transitioning’ increases suicide risk eighteen fold.

Teenagers who identify as trans have the same suicide risk as those with the same comorbidities.

Do fully explain how exactly a teen identifying as the opposite of their genetic make up "reinforces damaging socially-constructed stereotypes,

What are they identifying with? If you look at trans books aimed at children it is clear that what they are being pushed by trans organisations to identify with are harmful sex stereotypes; clothes, hair, colours, interests. Indeed that is what the whole diagnosis of ‘gender dysphoria’ is based on.

summer camps where the adults don't attend

17 year olds do. The age of legal capacity (adulthood) in Scotland is 16.

Agreed. Dreadful to weaponise suicide when talking about this exceptionally vulnerable group of children with numerous co morbidities who are being severely harmed by extreme transactivism and transactivists. The government had to issue this rebuttal because of the irresponsible use of dodgy statistics. For those who can't be bothered to read the link, 3 of the key points from the summary are:

1. The data do not support the claim that there has been a large rise in suicide in young gender dysphoria patients at the Tavistock.
2. The way that this issue has been discussed on social media has been insensitive, distressing and dangerous, and goes against guidance on safe reporting of suicide.
3. The claims that have been placed in the public domain do not meet basic standards for statistical evidence.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/review-of-suicides-and-gender-dysphoria-at-the-tavistock-and-portman-nhs-foundation-trust/review-of-suicides-and-gender-dysphoria-at-the-tavistock-and-portman-nhs-foundation-trust-independent-report

Can I recommend that you do further research into those suicide statistics you are keen to weaponise to shut down discussion?

Clinicians and even legal representatives of transgender groups have all stated clearly that the statistics don't show what you have tried to use as manipulation. That you have tried, and you supposedly work within the mental health sector with children, is incredible to see.

Not only that, but if you do indeed work in children's mental health, you seem to not understand the safeguarding responsibilities that must surely be part of your role.

That is very concerning indeed.

Where have the parents of children who identify as trans who come on this section of the forum (Feminism: Sex and gender discussions) ever said that "boys must do this and girls must do that"? That is the antithesis of the thinking here.

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https://www.city-journal.org/article/aclu-attorney-confesses-transgender-suicide-claim-is-a-myth

MR. STRANGIO: What I think that is referring to is there is no evidence in some—in the studies that this treatment reduces completed suicide. And the reason for that is completed suicide, thankfully and admittedly, is rare and we’re talking about a very small population of individuals with studies that don’t necessarily have completed suicides within them.

However, there are multiple studies, long-term longitudinal studies that do show that there is a reduction in—in suicidality . . .

Chase Strangio is a female person with a transgender identity who is an extreme transgender activist that campaigns to have gender prioritised over sex when sex does matter. This was a remarkable admission under oath.

It pays to have the facts and only discuss those facts. Using misinformation such as that poster has done is very harmful. Especially since they say they work in children's mental health.

>It pays to have the facts and only discuss those facts.

May I point out that a widely accepted line (at least, one that is never challenged) on Trans Reddit UK is that the government (with or without the NHS, or ONS, or Freemasons or Illuminati - take your pick) is or are deliberately hiding trans-identifying youth suicide statistics to further an “anti-trans” agenda.

Weaponising spurious and unevidenced threats of suicide to try and bully women into either going along with the manifestations of trans ideology or to get them to shut up is manipulative and abusive behaviour

Safeguarding.

Your current rant, objecting to safeguarding a 8 year old with complex medical needs.

But you do you

All suicides go before a coroner and coroner hearing are public.

Are people who cant understand safeguarding actually allowed to have access to children within the UK mental health system?

Should have gone to spec savers it’s obviously a man

It was importantly enough to the organisers that the clinical director choose to phone the mum to lecture her on preferred pronouns. The charity made this a big thing, not the mum.

This is the second case of discrimination on the basis of gender-critical beliefs in a week - first the gay men thrown out of a pub, now this poor disabled child denied a holiday.

I hope both the gay men and the child's mother sue the organisations responsible. In each instance, the case seems clear-cut: since Forstater, it's been the law that you cannot legally discriminate against someone because they believe in the reality of biological sex.

There have been numerous cases now where the application of the Forstater ruling has resulted in a victory for gender-critical people who have been discriminated against. It seems remarkable that so many people seem unaware of the ruling and therefore that they are breaking the law.

These people are slow learners - some may use the word "stupid". So we have to keep hammering away at it until they finally grasp the law. It will take time, but let's hope we get there eventually. Not everyone has time or money to expend on taking legal action against morons.

The number of professionals working within CAMHS, social work and education actively pushing this agenda is truly horrifying. The lack of understanding around safeguarding is staggering.

I worked with a LA Safeguarding consultant with pronouns in her email signature.

And all deaths of under 18s are reviewed by the child death panel , even those whose death was expected from a terminal illness.

It is a complete lie that transIDing young people are dying and the government is covering it up.

Feminism is about equity for women - not about spouting hate

Are Feminists allowed to hate sexism?

Genderism - the belief that gendered personalities are the real distinction between men and women, and physical sex and the differences in risks and outcomes that it brings has no significance to our lives - is simply Neo-sexism.

Of course as a Feminist I reject that.

I don't dismiss that gender in the sense of social constructs and myths around sex exists, nor ignore the significance it has on our lives. I simply do not see it as a good thing, and certainly not as something that should be considered more real and meaningful than sex. It's like saying that because slaves traditonally wore chains, slaves must be people who chose to wear chains. I think it's better to get rid of the chains.

You seem to think that only young people from families with rigid ideas of appropriate dress or interests for males and females ID as trans. Like for instance, Susie Greens child, who was transed because he liked playing with dolls and his father was afraid he would be gay.

That is not the case, at all. There is huge social contagion, online grooming is massive, and schools and organisations working with children and young people have been infiltrated by those pushing gender ideology.

You seem to think that family/parents are the biggest influence on children but once they're of school age, that's not the case. That's part of why parents asking about the so-called 'inclusive' policies of organisations dealing with children, like this mother has, is so important.