Charity rejects disabled child for mother's GC views

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Pretty shocking but it seems they think they're right.

She's essentially telling her son that her views on sex and gender supersede anyone else's reality.

So how is that any different to the mother of the 'trans' child? Why should that child's role-play supersede everybody else's reality?

Surely the proper way to deal with this is that the role-playing child and their family be welcomed with the understanding that others will not be required to participate in the role-play, while other service users and service providers will be informed that they are not required to join in with the role-play but are not permitted to mistreat the role-players?

In your story her child is unable to sex another human due to long hair or short hair.

So
ranting
should shut up
abusive

Oh you mean like how this lovely charity is being a political parrot for the Trans agenda?

Align with our beliefs or we'll punish you?

Affirming gender is not a neutral act.

Children should not be instructed to lie or be lied to by adults on something so fundamental.

Expecting children to use false pronouns is imapcting upon them, and their rights, their instincts and their integrity. it is also presenting children with a harmful untruth.....and suggesting to them that they must go along with it.

The parents of the child with 'pronouns' are making a special case of their own child.......expecting everyone, and all of the other children, to indulge them. This is unacceptable and is a terrible thing to teach or expect of children when in a vulnerable situation away from their parents.

If this is what the camp organisers are expecting then they will surely also be implementing intimate mixed sex situations within the camp, and without the parental consent of the other children.

She's essentially telling her son that her views on sex and gender supersede anyone else's reality.

There is no such thing as "someone else's reality". There is only reality. Actual material reality.

Teaching any child that they can change the sex they were born, in defiance of material reality, does them no favours.

Forcing children, and indeed adults, to shore up lies and delusions is not a matter of politeness, it is dictatorship.

Edited: stray letter

Yes. How dare a woman have strong views?

I too would have questioned being asked for my child’s pronouns whatever the age. I’d have thought it was a joke and would be appalled at being requested to ask my child to pander to another family’s delusions.

We’re going to have to agree to disagree here. I do not think that addressing a person in the way they want to be is lying or denying reality.

Why would a disabled child think a boy with long hair was a girl? There is nothing about long hair that makes a boy a girl and most children have seen boys with long hair.

When you try and weaponise your child into being your little political parrot, it is highly unfair on them and can even become abusive.

Weaponising safeguarding concerns? Weaponising human rights concerns? Yeah, right. Like JKR 'weaponised' the abuse she suffered.

In what way are you addressing a person when using third person pronouns?

She is not telling her child to say anything. She is anticipataing a situation in which her eight year old child might well correctly gender someone, and then be reprimanded for it.

Regarding the first paragraph in bold: exactly the same can be said of the family who insist that everyone call their child the opposite sex.

Can you answer this

She helped him undress.

What sex is "she"

What sex is "he"

Why would being able to correctly sex both people in that situation be important if one is a child?

The poisonous effect of gender ideology is to cast out and supplant every other form of disadvantage and oppression. We see its colonising force again and again - whether it's in relation to women, children, gay people, disabled people. It's probably the most successful movement against EDI that anyone could have dreamt up.

Funny how no one is ever saying to the parents of the trans children "look we can't control how other children/adults see your child and we can't force ppl to go along with their belief that they are opposite sex so maybe you should prepare them for that"

no it's always everyone else who has to contort reality for their benefit

No she said if her son "sees" a girl, he should call the person a girl. It leaves no space for the child to be wrong.

Children and carers often use pronouns in the hearing of the other person particularly in guided play which given these children are severely disabled seems quite likely. “Let her have a turn”, “he pushed me” ect ect. It sounds very much like the mother would not only have ignored her son making a mistake (which would be fine), but would have actively insisted on referring to another child in a way that would be distressing to them.

That may be true and I've seen it to be true. It doesn't mean that this mother wasn't doing exactly the same thing to her child and it is equally problematic.

The government need to put out guidance on this.

It's horrendous that it is left to parents to challenge this ideology.

That absolutely is about his safety, what are you on about? Making a child use wrong sex pronouns, especially a vulnerable child who may require intimate care at any point is deliberately eroding that child’s base safeguarding instincts and is harmful.

Well if the child is wrong about the other child's sex, the staff would correct him and the mum would agree.

That's not what we're talking about here.

Why did the charity feel the need to ring the mother and ask about the pronoun question? Surely, they could have just processed the application. By proactively ringing it suggests that pronoun usage and compliance were a key factor.

Quite

Usually because their parents have very strict gender rules and because they're young and put things in very broad categories until they develop more detailed schema. If theyre told that whatever you think about gender is right, then they won't develop that nuance. They will reject people telling them that sometimes girls have short hair, or never wear skirts, because mummy told them that what they see is right.