Charity rejects disabled child for mother's GC views

[PaddingtonSwear]

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Pretty shocking but it seems they think they're right.

I'm simply not defending this parent making her child's chance at respite and recreation about her views.

Oh, so sorry to both of them! And thank you! I was able to edit the post in time.

It really isnt. I see parents all the time talking about why they'd prefer a boy or a girl as if it determines their interests and personality. When we get to this healthy place, people won't care.

You do realise that a large number of posters here have trans identifying children? Do you really think that posters on this board have homes that promote gender stereotypes?

Where would this man be where he would be able to talk directly to the child alone about his gender identity?

That's not an illogical leap. That actually happened to a woman in an NHS hospital.

You cant have it both ways.

The form was a place to express your preferred pronouns sex classification. Mone are she/her female based which may or may not be my actual sex because I am a woman use the term female I also use the term for adult human female but I believe saying that I am a woman adult human female when I may actually be an adult human male is enough.

Either the organisation and the mother expressed a socio-political views on the use and missuse of langage or neither did.

genuine LOL

hopefully the poster is being deliberately goady. If they’re serious…well, crikey

Yes. I see it in many posts on here. I wouldn't be surprised if there were a disproportionate number of parents on here who have trans identifying children. I can absolutely see why they do just by the way they speak about men and boys.

She could have answered the question about sex/gender and left pronouns because it is superfluous given what she has stated already..

Somewhere pushing ‘diversity and inclusion’, perhaps like a camp for disabled children which has a rather lax approach to safeguarding and likes to lie to children about sex.

She is not making it about her views.

She is worried about staff lying to her child and harming him by doing so.

She didn't cause this, they are the ones at fault.

You agree that adults should not lie to children about sex. So why are you turning this around to being the mother's fault?

Talk about it when they come home. Thats what I encourage my kids to do.

I'm with the mum. I'd be very cross if someone confused my child with incorrect pronouns. I would expect the child's name to be used every time to avoid confusion.

It also sounds to me as though the charity worker initially called the mum to confront her.

Because it wasnt the time or the place to raise it.

I support telling people the sex of other individuals. In a single sex environment like a ward, that would mean people of the other sex arent admitted.

I don't think not telling me the biological sex of a person always presents a safeguarding risk so I won't use the terms you suggest. Safeguarding isn't why I think people should be told the sex of others

These two statements are oxymoronic. You accept that being told the actual sex of a person is important in single sex environments, but you don’t think safeguarding is why people should be told? The reason people should be told in single sex environments is because of safeguarding! It’s to safeguard women’s privacy, safety and dignity. For what reason do you think people should be told a person’s in single sex environments if not safeguarding?

Do you actually know what the word safeguarding means?

It's more about acceptance and understanding diversity.

So you think women on a single sex ward should be told about that there’s a man on the ward so those women can learn to accept his diversity?

At a camp for disabled children that prioritises gender ideology over safeguarding.

And what would they tell you? That a woman spoke to them on their own or man did?

The hospital is not the subject of this thread, but I will comment that then and now, excuses for the management only work, if you accept that casual level of investigation into all rapes.

Suppose the ward had been truly female-only, and the rapist had been a man who sneaked onto the grounds and posed as a patient in the early hours of the morning?

Would it be acceptable to tell his victim that she couldn't have been raped because all the people documented to be present were female? Would it be normal practice? I don't think it would. I think it's standard to investigate for intruders.

So how come hospital management just shut it down with "no men present" that time? Well, I'd say it's because they knew who she meant.

When is the time to raise safeguarding failures at a camp you wish your child to attend?

I can and do choose every one of the pronouns I use when I communicate to you and about you.

Your choosing not to talk to me makes zero difference to my choice.

But are you defending the charity making the child's chance at respite and recreation about their views?
And not just this child, but the child who the charity has inappropriately labelled 'transgender'.

I don't think I need to be told specifically that the other patients in my ward are female but I think I should be able to assume they are if my ward is designated as single sex. That would mean that the hospital who are privy to such information only admit women to my single sex ward. I don't think I have the right to know the sex of everyone in my ward if it is not single sex just because I suspect someone is trans, though.

Having hospitals only admit other females to my ward is something that would be achieved through voting.

The reason I disagree with trans ideology is because I think it is most damaging to trans identifying people. The belief that you need to change because you don't fit some rigid expectations or have been made to bekieve your biological sex is toxic. Yes, they can harm others but I think every single trans person is being harmed by believing that they are the wrong sex opposed to just some trans people using this identity to exploit and harm.

It absolutely was the time and place.

From your comments on this thread you might want to consider your own ideas of gender stereotypes tbh...

I don't think another child is the appropriate party to address this with the trans identifying child. It could cause more harm. Which is exactly why I discourage children from arguing about it with adults who have told them otherwise.