some parallels

[Manfreglory]

I've been teasing out this idea, that transphobia and xenophobia have much in common.

• both rest on 'you're not from here; your culture is different; you can't know what it is to have grown up 'over here'/had period pains/gone through labour.

• both reject difference or change in favour of sameness or stasis. 'You look and talk and think differently/you underwent a journey to get here/I can't fully relate to you'.

• both rest not just on culture but on biology: 'Your genes are different than mine/your genotype for phenotype A, B or C aren't identical to mine'.

• both are territorial: 'i sweated blood as a member of this sex/to make it in this society - who are you to come here and demand a seat at the table'?

• both are suspicious of the reasons for transformation. 'You just want the perks of being female; you just want to look up our skirts in the toilet; you just migrated here from Guatemala for financial stability.'

• both demonize, aggressively overstating the chance that the person has or will commit a crime. (Migrants: no need to give examples, just read the news. Trans people: 'you just want access to 'our spaces'' (i.e. the spaces where women/cis women enjoy their privacy from all men, cis or trans) so you can assault us'.

• both minimize or even deny, the need for the transition: 'No child is born trans/those parents were homophobic as the kid was just gay/trans women are men with their dicks lopped off/people should stay in their home country and migration is too dangerous'.

• both hysterically fear that the trans person/migrant will corrupt innocents: 'they will indoctrinate children in school/they will spread religious fundamentalism'.

Gender critical women: ask yourself if you've been radicalized into the new right.

What the fuck are you on about?

Mammals can't change sex. The end.

No

Try thinking a little harder. If you can.

Don't be so bloody ridiculous. We're not anything-phobic. We just don't believe in magic.

Ha ha ha ha ha very funny @Manfreglory please try harder were not falling for your false forced teaming.

LOL

Are these parallels in the same room as us?

Is the weather nice on your planet?

Bollocks.

Your claim rests upon the assumption that someone has transitioned. They haven’t. They have not changed sex.

I’m not saying transwomen are not quite proper women like me because they haven’t always been women- like your list in the OP.
I’m saying they aren’t women at all. Never have been, never will be.

To use your analogy above, they simply haven’t made it across the Channel. They are still over there.

But I admire your Chutzpah!

Bizarre

You can’t change sex. No two women ( identical twins aside) have identical genes.

i don’t care how you want to dress

I don’t care if I don’t understand you as long as we can live together without hurting each other. I don’t expect you to understand me. I will get upset if you say you feel like me, that you understand what it is to be a women. It’s dishonest.

medical care for children should be evidence based and life threatening and life limiting treatments should be a last resort

we are allowed to treat men differently in some cases because of inequality and sexual violence. How you chose to dress and what name you call yourself doesn’t change the inequality and propensity to sexual violence . We know many MRA want to overturn those protections so ask yourself if you have been radicalised into the new right

Amusing.

ODFOD

@Manfreglory

No.

OP. Your post demonstrates that you haven’t yet grasped the issues raised by women who post on this board.

If you want to understand and good starting point is to read through some other threads, with an intent to understand (not necessarily disagree) rather than an intent to justify you current thinking

Love it! Keep it coming!

Ummm… did you miss the bit where the right wing Reform party support trans rights. Maybe it’s not us who are right wing….

Nope

Was this the really really cool thing the TRA we’re gonna post on here? JFK. They’re really sending their best and brightest aren’t they 😂😂😂😂😂😂

What the fuck are you on about?

This probably is their best and brightest. Let's face it anyone who genuinely believes people can change sex is very much in the limited thinking category

Edit for typing error

The analogy is puerile and beyond clunky, but yes, I have asked myself that question. As I think most of us have over the years.

The answer is no.

Very funny OP. There is nothing a man can do to his body or brain to make him other than a man.
I’m not that fussed about crime stats tbh. I just expect to be able to choose which men get to see me in a state of undress and which don’t. Any man other than my D H who tries is violating my privacy and dignity, whether it’s with an upskirting camera, by looking over the cubicle partition or pretending to be a woman in a communal changing room, no difference to me.

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