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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Sturgeon accuses JK of toxic trans debate

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Tootsweets23 · 12/08/2025 08:33

The world has probably had enough of sturgeon to last a lifetime but today’s ‘revelation’ from her shite book is just infuriating.

A long catalogue of poor me, I’m pure of spirit, any criticism is toxic, everyone else is malevolent.

Despite calling people who don’t agree with her idiotic bill racists, homophobes and misogynists, here she says JK’s teeshirt didn’t elevate the debate or illuminate the issues.

And then goes on to say that this issue wasn’t really that important to mainstream voters but we are all guilty of hysteria.

And she wishes she had the courage to call a rapist female.

For someone allegedly politically astute this book is a very stupid strategy. Slow hand clap.

Nicola Sturgeon accuses JK Rowling of creating ‘toxic’ trans debate

https://www.thetimes.com/article/29160158-03f7-4afc-bce6-38a425c72df0?shareToken=3cf893fc3e26d2e2b4ced9467395d1d5

Nicola Sturgeon accuses JK Rowling of creating ‘toxic’ trans debate

Former first minister says author stoked ‘vile’ attacks that left her fearing for her physical safety

https://www.thetimes.com/article/29160158-03f7-4afc-bce6-38a425c72df0?shareToken=3cf893fc3e26d2e2b4ced9467395d1d5

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AnSolas · 22/08/2025 22:15

That should sell a book or two.

Namelessnelly · 22/08/2025 23:37

Merrymouse · 16/08/2025 15:28

I think threats of rape and murder come from misogynist men, but I think she might also be referring to some women saying e.g. "I hope you are imprisoned with Isla Bryson".

But as NS believes Isla is a woman, why would that upset her more than it would if any woman’s name was used? The only reason NS would have to be upset is if she didn’t really believe IB was a woman, but was perfectly happy for other women to be locked up with him.

Needspaceforlego · 23/08/2025 11:06

@Namelessnelly did NS not eventually conclude Isla Bryson wasn't 'genuine trans, Isla Bryson is well... a rapist' so neither transwoman or man more like some third category of person.

AnSolas · 23/08/2025 11:55

Nope a special rapist gender 👀🚩

SerendipityJane · 23/08/2025 11:56

Needspaceforlego · 23/08/2025 11:06

@Namelessnelly did NS not eventually conclude Isla Bryson wasn't 'genuine trans, Isla Bryson is well... a rapist' so neither transwoman or man more like some third category of person.

For some reason I am reminded of the occasional posts you see on MN asking for a "genuine" psychic ...

RedNine · 23/08/2025 15:44

NS is a mimophant:

Helen Lewis Writes . . .

From the link, in case you don't like clicking unknown links - Mimophant: "A phenomenon most of us have met in life: a hybrid who combines the delicate frailness of the Mimosa, crumbling at a touch when his own feelings are hurt, with the thick-skinned robustness of the elephant trampling over the feelings of others.“

Helen Lewis Writes . . .

Mimophant: "A phenomenon most of us have met in life: a hybrid who combines the delicate frailness of the Mimosa, crumbling at a touch when his own feelings are hurt, with the thick-skinned robustness...

https://helenlewiswrites.tumblr.com/post/74636067158/mimophant-a-phenomenon-most-of-us-have-met-in

RedNine · 23/08/2025 15:47

I am rubbish at editing, I see!

Add this to my post:

Mimophant: "A phenomenon most of us have met in life: a hybrid who combines the delicate frailness of the Mimosa, crumbling at a touch when his own feelings are hurt, with the thick-skinned robustness of the elephant trampling over the feelings of others.“

RedNine · 23/08/2025 15:48

<heavy sigh, slams down laptop lid>

SerendipityJane · 23/08/2025 16:15

RedNine · 23/08/2025 15:47

I am rubbish at editing, I see!

Add this to my post:

Mimophant: "A phenomenon most of us have met in life: a hybrid who combines the delicate frailness of the Mimosa, crumbling at a touch when his own feelings are hurt, with the thick-skinned robustness of the elephant trampling over the feelings of others.“

Elephants really are scared of mice.

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RedNine · 23/08/2025 16:26

Well I'll go to the foot of our stairs!

SerendipityJane · 23/08/2025 16:33

RedNine · 23/08/2025 16:26

Well I'll go to the foot of our stairs!

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NotAtMyAge · 23/08/2025 18:48

RedNine · 23/08/2025 16:26

Well I'll go to the foot of our stairs!

Oh, that took me back. 😄 My Lancashire father (born 1907) used to say that all the time.

SerendipityJane · 23/08/2025 20:54

NotAtMyAge · 23/08/2025 18:48

Oh, that took me back. 😄 My Lancashire father (born 1907) used to say that all the time.

I had to google it, I must confess.

RedNine · 23/08/2025 22:11

SerendipityJane · 23/08/2025 20:54

I had to google it, I must confess.

Sometimes forget not everyone shares my vernacular lingo, sorry!

NotAtMyAge · 23/08/2025 22:24

SerendipityJane · 23/08/2025 20:54

I had to google it, I must confess.

It's reet northern tha knows.😉

AnSolas · 24/08/2025 04:17

SerendipityJane · 23/08/2025 16:15

Elephants really are scared of mice.

Sadly he is a beardy bloke TRA 😬

SerendipityJane · 24/08/2025 10:25

RedNine · 23/08/2025 22:11

Sometimes forget not everyone shares my vernacular lingo, sorry!

No need - that's the fact I learned today, making it a good day.

If you can pass a day and not learn something new, then you are doing life wrong.

And yes, there is a subtext.

SerendipityJane · 24/08/2025 10:26

AnSolas · 24/08/2025 04:17

Sadly he is a beardy bloke TRA 😬

Art and artists.

lcakethereforeIam · 24/08/2025 11:08

Didn't his younger sister accuse him of sexual abuse? Iirc they settled out of court.

SerendipityJane · 24/08/2025 11:15

lcakethereforeIam · 24/08/2025 11:08

Didn't his younger sister accuse him of sexual abuse? Iirc they settled out of court.

I have no idea. I don't forensically vet everyone that passes my eyes. It allows me to have a life

(checks)

Accused, yes. However their mother intervened :

The siblings' mother came to Adam's defense, stating, "It makes me very sad to say this, but my daughter suffers from severe mental health challenges, and it's devastating that she's putting Adam and our entire family through this. Adam is a good man, and I support him completely."[58] The lawsuit was settled through mediation on May 24, 2021, and dismissed the next day. Details of the settlement were not made public. Pacchiana removed her original blog post about Savage, which had precipitated the lawsuit.[59]

You can only make of that what you will

Adam Savage - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adam_Savage#cite_note-59

AnSolas · 24/08/2025 13:02

SerendipityJane · 24/08/2025 10:26

Art and artists.

I agree that "science" testing stands or falls on its own merrit so but was not just believe in science but not that bit...

I would not have known he was not just a genderist but rather one of the TRA who opted to be abusive and support abusive actions on Twitter.😬

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