Sturgeon accuses JK of toxic trans debate

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The world has probably had enough of sturgeon to last a lifetime but today’s ‘revelation’ from her shite book is just infuriating.

A long catalogue of poor me, I’m pure of spirit, any criticism is toxic, everyone else is malevolent.

Despite calling people who don’t agree with her idiotic bill racists, homophobes and misogynists, here she says JK’s teeshirt didn’t elevate the debate or illuminate the issues.

And then goes on to say that this issue wasn’t really that important to mainstream voters but we are all guilty of hysteria.

And she wishes she had the courage to call a rapist female.

For someone allegedly politically astute this book is a very stupid strategy. Slow hand clap.

Nicola Sturgeon accuses JK Rowling of creating ‘toxic’ trans debate

https://www.thetimes.com/article/29160158-03f7-4afc-bce6-38a425c72df0?shareToken=3cf893fc3e26d2e2b4ced9467395d1d5

The Telegraph have published another article, it details some of the abuse NS says she has been receiving

Nicola Sturgeon: Gender opponents said they wanted me ‘raped in toilet’ https://share.google/maYtZSePhYe6EVX7f archive link

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/08/14/nicola-sturgeon-gender-opponents-rape-toilet/

Utterly vile things mocking her miscarriage and hoping she gets raped. I've not seen them myself but whoever would send stuff like that ain't no feminist. I've no qualms in totally condemning them.

Although, I'm only human and this did cause me to eyeroll

“I’ve been vilified and received some awful abuse, nothing like the abuse trans people are getting right now.”

There's also more on the shitshow at the Library and regarding Kate Forbes. ScotGov's Culture Secretary has been asked to promise that freedom of speech is paramount where public funds are involved.

And Doc Stock in Unherd on NS wee book

https://archive.ph/odL7d

https://unherd.com/2025/08/how-nicola-sturgeon-failed-scotland/

Kathleen Stock pulling zero punches. What a final line!

"If Frankly is anything to go by, then, strictly speaking Sturgeon never did have imposter syndrome. To have that particular malaise, your nagging suspicion you aren’t really up to the task has to be wrong."

the thing is, when Sturgeon comes out with the shite (and i do not condone threats of violence in any way, and i hope those people are traced and punished to the fullest extent of the law) why on earth don't interviewers push back by asking for her comments on the threats to women? Die in a fat fire, decapitate TERFs and all that? (i am not a sauce for the goose, here. NOBODY should be getting threats - but one lot of threats are out in the open and completely ignored)

When she talks about "so called feminists" or "call themselves feminists" why not a pushback about things that women have fought for being opened to men? Why not say "it is not feminist to do what you have done to women's rights"

I'm as feminist as they come, but i will not support a woman just because she is a woman (although, how do we know, under her woolly thinking that Sturgeon is actually a woman?). I will criticise anti women policies and thought, no matter who is spouting it. Particularly when that person spouting the bollix is actually, apparently, a woman. W

When she talks about "so called feminists" or "call themselves feminists" why not a pushback about things that women have fought for being opened to men? Why not say "it is not feminist to do what you have done to women's rights"

Absolutely agree, she persists in trying to undermine her opponents credibility but she not appreciating she is talking about the vast majority of people as has been shown by many polls not supporting her stance. For a politician not to get this shows a huge degree of dissociation from reality to almost a defence mechanism level.

On a much more general level I’m always curious about the women allies who attach themselves so deeply to the trans ideology wondering what underlying psychology is driving them to be attracted to this specific issue when it is so fundamentally damaging to women and children. There are far more significant issues out there in the world poverty, child abuse, addiction yet for some women who are on the surface at least largely unaffected by the issue it holds such a deep pull for them. NS epitomises this. She was literally willing to lose everything in her life of significance in order to stand rigidly up for this ideology.

Great piece.

The Scotsman on NS's regrets on the GRR

https://archive.ph/DNH8p

https://www.scotsman.com/news/opinion/columnists/why-nicola-sturgeons-extraordinary-admission-over-gender-bill-doesnt-excuse-the-problems-she-caused-5266677

It quote amusing to compare and contrast Sturgeon and Farage. Sturgeons moment of dimness - and fatal mistake - was to actually put herself in a position where she had to walk the walk. Farage was crafty enough to stay well clear of the fuckup he caused.

Joanna Cherry also very interesting on this Joanna Cherry: Nicola Sturgeon is an anti-intellectual who was a Stalinist leader

Sturgeon is clearly committed, dogged and ruthless. Imagine if she'd directed this single-mindedness towards Scotland's drugs problem. Defending the likes of Isla Bryson is such an odd hill to die on.

They had Joanne Cherry at the Fringe!? I hope the venue had a fainting room with a first aid station.

In light of what has come out regarding NS's...lack of enthusiasm for repealing S28 and on gay marriage this is spot on

“Nicola has very much presented herself as an LGBT ally in recent years,” Ms Cherry said. “But I think for Nicola, it’s all about the ‘T’. She doesn’t really understand the history of the gay rights movement because she was never part of it, as I have been.

“And she doesn’t really understand that perhaps the interests of same-sex attracted people might sometimes be different from, or indeed conflict with the interests of people who think that gender is more important than sex.”

I think her priorities were around attention.
Number going down or up isn't very sexy, even if that number is really important, drugs deaths, health, education, ferry cost.
But topics of the zeitgeist where people are protesting, waving flags, wearing lanyards, being very vocal, having your cock poke through your lycra, that is sexy, or at least Nicola thought so even if the rest of us dont.
I think the attention fuelled her inflated self image as the Saviour of Scotland, and I think she was addicted to how it made her feel. Just like the addicts she ignored and failed, her own addiction to her self was her own failure.

She was abused in a specific way because she is a woman.

What decent person would not condem anybody who makes rape threats to anybody or abuses a woman using the loss of her child?

A half decent person would not [(edit) so do ] that to begin with yet NS is painting a picture that all people who did not agree with the Bill would engage in that kind of vile act.

I will bet that the abuse did not result in a police arrest. Where/if there was a direct threat this should have resulted in proper investigation and court date which shows a failing on behalf of the police and her protection service.

And seeing as how JKR had death threats and other abuse from so called "respectable" people.
And was targeted nutjob perverts who decided that non-contact child sex abuse of children who drew pictures was a clever way to protest her views.
And the naaasty ones who turned up to selfpublicise and encourage other to harrass JKR and her family at her home.
And threats of violence (and actual violence) appears to be a go-to method of protest for TRAs.

Prehaps NS should have been more informed and realise that JKR had already been dealing with the kind of abuse NS began getting since 2020?

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2022/jan/17/trans-activists-will-not-be-charged-over-picture-of-jk-rowlings-home

"The author had contacted police in Scotland in November after the tweet, which showed her Edinburgh house and revealed the address. The image showed activists standing outside the property with placards carrying slogans such as “trans liberation now”....

“I have to assume [they] thought doxxing me would intimidate me out of speaking up for women’s sex-based rights,” she tweeted in response to the activists at the time. “They should have reflected on the fact that I’ve now received so many death threats I could paper the house with them, and I haven’t stopped speaking out.

“Perhaps, and I’m just throwing this out there, the best way to prove your movement isn’t a threat to women, is to stop stalking, harassing and threatening us.”

And that JKR is still being abused in 2025 when NS decides to center JKRs name for publicity to boost her book sales.

Edit☺️

And seeing as how JKR had death threats and plus (or alongside 🙃 ) other abuse from so called "respectable" people.

🙃 Not suggesting the respecable people were also making death threats, rather multiple person acting independently.

'Appearing as a guest on Matt Forde’s Political Party show at the Edinburgh Festival Fringe, Ms Cherry said: "It's very important for people to understand that my gripe with Nicola is not a personal one. I don't really know Nicola.
"I think she's quite a private person, and that's her prerogative. I've never been close to her. This is not a personality clash.
"This is a clash based on the way that we do politics. I believe in open debate and discussion, and I don't think she does.
"I think she was Stalinist in the way in which she ran the party and the country, and I think she's actually quite anti-intellectual as well. Not setting myself up as a great intellectual, but I'm somebody who is interested in ideas.
"I've said this before, the Scottish National Party was founded by intellectuals and thinkers, poets, writers, former diplomats like Compton Mackenzie, the great writer. They must be birling in their graves at what's happened to the party over the last decade."'

I would like to just note again how terrible the idea is that the FM appoints the Lord Advocate, but anyway:

'She added: "In fact, in 2016, Nicola and I discussed her idea that she might make me Lord Advocate at the time. So we were on good enough terms for her to be considering that at the time. That's the chief law officer in Scotland.
"But she decided against it. In many ways, that's a huge relief to me. Given what was to follow, I think it would have been extremely difficult for me. But obviously, at that time, she trusted me enough and we got on well enough for her to contemplate that."
She said Ms Sturgeon did not really understand the gay rights movement.
“Nicola has very much presented herself as an LGBT ally in recent years,” Ms Cherry said. “But I think for Nicola, it’s all about the ‘T’. She doesn’t really understand the history of the gay rights movement because she was never part of it, as I have been.
“And she doesn’t really understand that perhaps the interests of same-sex attracted people might sometimes be different from, or indeed conflict with the interests of people who think that gender is more important than sex.”

@ArabellaScott
"I would like to just note again how terrible the idea is that the FM appoints the Lord Advocate."

Something I remember from the time they tried to stitch Salmond up by witness trampering, and there was a formal inquiry about it. One of the things the enquiry highlighted and the UK government officially commentated on was - The Lord Advocate in Scotland is a member of the cabinet in governement. i.e. they answered directly to Sturgeon at the time.
The inquiry and the UK goverment both pointed out this was a clear conflict of interest, and it should never have been set up this way. The Lord Advocate should be independent of, not answer to, the First Minister.

I did feel that condemning the threats NS has received was a bit performative but I felt it had to be said (I admit my first reaction was 'chinny reckon?'). Like the variations on the obligatory 'of course trans people should not be abused' which someone on the GC side has to preface any remotely critical public remark. They're usually wasting their time. My starting point is no-one should be subject to violence, literal or figurative. It should go without saying. I wish the tras would be so generous. But victimhood with a big side of hypocrisy too often is their order of the day.

100%. It's absurd and outrageous that its set up as it is.

I suspect th8s will come to nothing

Tories accuse Sturgeon of breaking ministerial code over indyref2 | The Spectator https://share.google/wLJm7wTg3wvTNcBkD archive link

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/tories-accuse-sturgeon-of-breaking-ministerial-code-over-indyref2/

But, NS really seems to have trouble saying no to unreasonable requests. Well I suppose it wasn't her money.

JKR has (jokingly?) offered to read extracts of her review at the Edinburgh Book Festival -

https://x.com/jkrowling/status/1956305706895691907

There must be some hair tearing at the EBF offices at the moment. They had to go cap in hand for a huge hand out from the Scottish Government for this year and this would be a marvellous money raiser.

'Oh the opportunity!! But we hate her!! And all women. But the money!!!!'

Someone.

Please make this happen.

For shits and giggles.

Watch them all scatter for their safety rooms.

Sarah Ditum in the Times:
https://www.thetimes.com/article/3b515acd-b11c-4b05-a28a-d1b45c599a85?shareToken=55ce7cd4f9182d0b6ae923e74dd7f4ef

😀

JKR can be joking (or not ) because when one namedrops one must accept the plop ripples out into the space time continuum🙈

Frankly friday:

From that Times article, a quote from Sturgeon:
When she became first minister, she writes, “living up to the honour of being the first female incumbent of my office was almost an obsession”.

It wasn't that hard to be the first one; in the fifteen years the office had existed when she got in there had only been four elected First Ministers in total, plus the bloke who was caretaker twice.

1 Donald Dewar
served from1999 to 2000 and died in office
Jim Wallace
caretaker for 16 days in October 2000
2 Henry McLeish
2000-2001, served 1 year, 12 days and resigned after a financial scandal
Jim Wallace
caretaker again, 8 November 2001 - 27 November 2001, served 19 days
3 Jack McConnell
Served from 27 November 2001 to 16 May 2007, 5 years, 170 days
4 Alex Salmond
served from 17 May 2007 to 18 November 2014, 7 years, 185 days
5 Nicola Sturgeon
served from 20th November 2014 to 28 March 2023, 8 years, 128 days

She may have given the Scots as great a scunner to having a woman leader as Margaret Thatcher gave to the English, and done us all a great disservice thereby.

I wonder if sturgeon is starting regret writing this book.