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NHS Fife tries to silence nurse - Sandie Peggie vs NHS Fife Health Board and Dr Beth Upton - thread #36

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nauticant · 22/07/2025 10:21

Sandie Peggie, a nurse at Victoria Hospital in Kirkcaldy (VH), has brought claims in the employment tribunal against her employer; Fife Health Board (the Board) and another employee, Dr B Upton. Ms Peggie’s claims are of sexual harassment, harassment related to a protected belief, indirect discrimination and victimisation. Dr Upton claims to be a transwoman, that is observed as male at birth but asserting a female gender identity.

The Employment Tribunal hearing started on Monday 3 February 2025 and was expected to last 2 weeks. However, after 2 weeks it was not complete and it adjourned part-heard. It resumed on 16 July and the last day of evidence will be 28 July and then there will be 2 days of submissions from counsel meaning that the hearing will end on 30 July.

The hearing commenced with Sandie Peggie giving evidence. Dr Beth Upton gave evidence from Thursday 6 February to Wednesday 12 February.

Access to view the hearing remotely was obtainable by sending an email request to [email protected] by 5pm on Wednesday 9 July. Detailed instructions were provided here:

drive.google.com/file/d/16-9POEZ7yHWUr6EmbfquJZO18Gv78bSm/view

The hearing is being live tweeted by x.com/tribunaltweets and there's additional information here: tribunaltweets.substack.com/p/peggie-vs-fife-health-board-and-dr-005 and tribunaltweets.substack.com/p/peggie-vs-fife-health-board-and-dr-bd6. This also has threadreaderapp archives of live-tweeting of the sessions of the hearing for those who can't follow on Twitter, for example: archive.ph/WSSjg.

An alternative to Twitter is to use Nitter: nitter.net/tribunaltweets or nitter.poast.org/tribunaltweets

Links to previous threads #1 to #29 can be found in the header of thread #30.

Thread 30: mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5375337-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-thread-30
Thread 31: mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5375819-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-thread-31
Thread 32: mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5376072-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-thread-32
Thread 33: mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5376608-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-thread-33
Thread 34: mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5377387-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-thread-34
Thread 35: mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5377598-nhs-fife-tries-to-silence-nurse-sandie-peggie-vs-nhs-fife-health-board-and-dr-beth-upton-thread-35

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ickky · 22/07/2025 12:17

I now have a blue screen instead of black. Anyone else?

Cailleach1 · 22/07/2025 12:17

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murasaki · 22/07/2025 12:17

Greyskybluesky · 22/07/2025 12:16

Nip out to the corner shop for 5 mins.

That always makes parcels arrive.

Did that in order to make my amazon delivery arrive. Which it did as I was walking back. I had to break into a waving jog.

MyrtleLion · 22/07/2025 12:17

Could someone please explain this acronym.

WFTCHTJ

Waiting for the Court…?

PottedPerennial · 22/07/2025 12:17

RedToothBrush · 22/07/2025 12:15

Ah so the shit has finally hit the fan.

Interesting.

And Dammit, Kate Searle is going to dodge giving evidence isn't she!?

I know you can't give us content, but does this mean you're in?

wellnotexactly · 22/07/2025 12:18

MyrtleLion · 22/07/2025 12:17

Could someone please explain this acronym.

WFTCHTJ

Waiting for the Court…?

Waiting for the conference host to join

wantmorenow · 22/07/2025 12:18

MyrtleLion · 22/07/2025 12:17

Could someone please explain this acronym.

WFTCHTJ

Waiting for the Court…?

Waiting for the conference host to join

NotAtMyAge · 22/07/2025 12:18

snickersbarchild · 22/07/2025 12:16

I'm going to start my Duololingo , that'll shift things along.

That's what I should have done while waiting. What language are you learning? Italian here.

Waitwhat23 · 22/07/2025 12:18

TerrierCollector · 22/07/2025 12:13

Does anyone else keep having to click watch on this thread? It keeps disappearing from my watched threads.

I keep accidently clicking on the Unwatch button when I'm clicking on the 10+ more posts button and not always noticing.

nauticant · 22/07/2025 12:18

ickky · 22/07/2025 12:17

I now have a blue screen instead of black. Anyone else?

I'm blue too. An upgrade!

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CriticalCondition · 22/07/2025 12:19

WFTCHTJ: Waiting for the conference host to join.

RocketPanda · 22/07/2025 12:19

May as well have lunch

NHS Fife tries to silence nurse - Sandie Peggie vs NHS Fife Health Board and Dr Beth Upton - thread #36
PersonIrresponsible · 22/07/2025 12:19

I hope that there's a VERY good reason that we've been left waiting all morning.

Because if this delay is because JR left her lippie on the bus and had to go back for it, I shall be cross.

MyAmpleSheep · 22/07/2025 12:19

PottedPerennial · 22/07/2025 12:17

I know you can't give us content, but does this mean you're in?

Per the email someone received from, the clerking team, the judge said anyone watching can make occasional reference to what they’ve seen or heard; they can’t purport to report on a larger part of the proceedings.

rebmacesrevda · 22/07/2025 12:19

snickersbarchild · 22/07/2025 12:16

I'm going to start my Duololingo , that'll shift things along.

Sounds fun! What's 😂in French?

SqueakyDinosaur · 22/07/2025 12:19

Finally caught up! And the only thing I can think of to say is that the Billy Joel earworm was presumably Upton Girl.

Sorrynotsorry.

Justabaker · 22/07/2025 12:19

NebulousSupportPostcard · 22/07/2025 11:15

I've tried searching to no avail. If anyone has the link to the court bundle at hand, I'd be very grateful if they could repost it in this thread please.📢

Bundle is not available on line. You must attend the hearing in person, speak with the clerk then be supervised while you review the bundle. This is only available during normal working hours. Sorry if this has been answered.

Jimmyneutronsforehead · 22/07/2025 12:19

I'm sat looking at my duolingo owl sobbing because I've ignored him for 5 days.

I don't want to start because once I start I'll probably blast through an entire module and miss the start of the tribunal.

MyrtleLion · 22/07/2025 12:20

wellnotexactly · 22/07/2025 12:18

Waiting for the conference host to join

Thank you!

ickky · 22/07/2025 12:20

I HAVE AUDIO

PersonIrresponsible · 22/07/2025 12:20

Haaaaaallelujah!!!!!

CriticalCondition · 22/07/2025 12:20

IN!

FannyCann · 22/07/2025 12:20

RedToothBrush · 22/07/2025 12:15

Ah so the shit has finally hit the fan.

Interesting.

And Dammit, Kate Searle is going to dodge giving evidence isn't she!?

Her smiling demeanour on arrival was not of one putting a brave face on it. She had the look of one who had enjoyed a full night's sleep without a care in the world. Perhaps soothed by the knowledge that JR had a Get Out of Jail free card she would be producing on arrival in the morning.

prh47bridge · 22/07/2025 12:20

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No, the person who posted that was joking.

nauticant · 22/07/2025 12:20

Oh!

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