From TT
J - how much more time?
NC - another half an hour
J - if you can shave time off that
NC nods, glances down at her ring. A light has appeared on it. One single green gem of light.
NC turn to bundle -your answer to Q9 your asked about further incidents in the dept, not witnessed personally but aware of behaviours in dept. Would you turn to page 460 part of ED's interview with AG "if Beth walks in Sandie walks out if I witnessed this I would deal with it.
LC -if it had been brought to me as direct info, yes I would deal with it.
NC p534 the first four lines, one occasion resus patient
NC - allegation is that SP took herself out of situation with Upton in cubical If Upton had thought she had actually done this, isn't this an urgent matter of fitness of conduct, misconduct
LC I would have expected to hear about it. I would expect it to be reported to me
Fifer : that richt there is the soond ay someone sneezin a big snottery lung fu' into a tissue of lies. Ye'd almost feel sorry for the tissue. It didn't want to be made of lies and full ay snotters.
NC it is not nec to be harm to a patient before this comes to you
LC this needs to be discussed to coming to this
NC it's incredible serious if it happens at all
LC agree is serious matter
NC given this, suggestion that she was so bigoted that she couldn't work with DU, then his not reporting is a neglect of his duty
LC I can't speak to why it didn't come to me
NC he didn't perform this duty
LC can't comment not involved
NC if false it's a damaging lie, so serious and it would have been career ending if reported to NMC
Fifer : uh oh. Someone's got a fit richt on the land mine. It's aw ready clicked doon.
LC - can't comment on what NMC would do
Fifer : dingy woosh tae that. We aw ken that's a career-ender. That's finishin yer days until yer pension as a cleaner doon the Templehall laundrette.
NC - email from KS to DU, you're not copied, have you seen this before.
LC No NC do you want to read it now
LC -Yes please
Fifer : translation - please naw, can a phone a neebor?
NC - both email at top of page and reply from KS J clarifies two pages need to be read
NC - first of those at 12.30 - starts mentioning you, reporting that KS had spoken to you and you were sad you couldn't speak to him because you wanted to condemn SP actions
NC lets LC read. She taps her ring. When did another light come on? There's two green dots now.
Nc do you agree this would have been improper
LC - i didn't say that. I would have said that we need to look into this, and that this isn't what we expect as a dept
NC - it was far too soon to meet with SP to tell her her actions were unacceptable
LC yes
Three dots. NC is expediting matters. Whatever is happening, it's happening soon
NC - do you agree therefore that it was inappropriate that KS said that DU had the support of the senior dr and nursing teams
LC {agrees}
LC looks queasy. They can smell the trap. They can't move forward, they can't move backward. If they pick up that foot, the landmine goes off.
NC email MC to ED, you (and others) headline protected characteristic incident. Maggie talks about any need for investigation but ED can't do it. And she would be right about that?
LC no I...(muffled sound)
NC refers to bundle. [Discussion about pages]
FOUR LIGHTS, the fourth one is blue. What does it mean. Is it a fitness ring telling NC she needs to take a walk, or is it something else...
NC 12th January email from KS to all the same people in to or CC line, but with the addition of Dr Upton. Compare those two emails the people they are addressed to, same subject line but prefixed 're:' this suggests this is a response to something
LC I don't know
LC moves her hand forward, almost like so can see the lights on the ring in her peripheral vision, without shifting her steely gaze from her prize.
Fifth light, violet
NC but we don't see what that's a response to But if we go back, it relates to previous email
LC - I cant comment to that
NC - you were copied in to that email from KS. Kate at this point with ED still in copy ED, ED is taking lead in investigation. Everyone is now aware that ED shouldn't be involved. MC says ED can't do investigating, but days later, now ED is still investigating
LC - I really don't know. I don't know who authorised ED first place
Fifer : she sounds like Mavis Reilly aff ay Coronation Street. (attempts Corrie accent and fails badly) Ah don't really knerrrr.
NC if this is right, that 729 is a reply to MC email of 5January, are you surprised no responses