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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

arrested at Pride for wearing a sign saying Trans=mental illness

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happydappy2 · 05/07/2025 16:50

Montgomery Toms has been arrested for wearing a sign showing the pink & blue stripes of trans=mental illness.

Arrested. What has happened to free speech in this country?

https://x.com/ESpeaksFreely/status/1941518454466748461

https://x.com/ESpeaksFreely/status/1941518454466748461

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SamiSnail · 06/07/2025 19:11

SugarSoiree · 06/07/2025 19:07

The way you parrot my own words back to me instead of having your own and are clearly very angry and absolutist shows you don't have any grasp of the nuances in different peoples opinions.

It is you that is clearly very angry, abusive and absolutist. You throw out lies about feminists and deny that taking away the boundaries of women and spaces of women = anti women. Deal with your own projections and prejudice.

And there is no nuance in declaring that us feminists are 'trans exclusionary' when clearly are not as we don't exclude trans men. Nor is there nuance is saying women and girls don't have the right to our boundaries and spaces. You either believe that women have sex-based rights and spaces or you don't. It really is that simple. At least own your position.

Ddakji · 06/07/2025 19:11

SugarSoiree · 06/07/2025 19:07

The way you parrot my own words back to me instead of having your own and are clearly very angry and absolutist shows you don't have any grasp of the nuances in different peoples opinions.

Nice demonstration that trans rights should always be a one-way street according to TRAs.

ArabellaScott · 06/07/2025 19:21

SugarSoiree · 06/07/2025 18:04

On this board it is used as a slur as it is clearly used in a derisive manner and the posters make clear that to them TRA = woman hating misogynist which is both not true and the definition of turning a plain descriptive word into a slur.

I call people who are activists working for transgender rights 'trans activists'. Its factual and not a slur. What would you call them?

ArabellaScott · 06/07/2025 19:26

SugarSoiree · 06/07/2025 17:59

Don't be ridiculous. Death and violence can be called to any group, TERF is just the name for a group. It's the death and violence that's the problem, not the term which is just a factual statement about a group of people. TERFs are trans exclusionary, and they are feminists. If some of them don't identify with rad fem then the only part of TERF that is not a factual statement is the radical but and being associated with the wrong branch of feminism is not a slur now is it.

Calling for violence and death to gays doesn't make gay a slur does it!

A judge in a court of law acknowledged that terf was used as a derogatory slur.

ArabellaScott · 06/07/2025 19:28

'On 21st November 2019, while hearing evidence against the Police in the High Court Mr Justice Julian Knowles, High Court Judge said:

“I have become familiar with the term TERF. It is a derogatory term used by those who seek to de-platform those who hold different views”'

Datun · 06/07/2025 19:31

BeeSouriante · 06/07/2025 11:52

No doubt arrested and de-arrested for breach of the peace, this would be the norm for this far right narcissist.

It's so weird that you people larp as women's rights activists whilst sitting with the far / religious right and using misogynistic hate sites.

It's almost like...

Larp. For the love of God, can you not have an original sort of your own? Just stop copying every single fucking thing women say.

I've said it before. The only reason men rule the world, is because of the brawn, because it sure as shit isn't the brain.

And you might want to have a word with your colleague about invoking Joss Prior prior as a reason to let men in women spaces 😁

He has confirmed he'll get his cock out in sex segregated spaces, and hopes it upsets the unconsenting women and girls in there.

Score!

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 06/07/2025 19:32

SillyDeer · 06/07/2025 17:59

Because goverment give you a legal document and remove your gentiala

crikey

as a direct swap? not sure I'd be up for that deal....

Datun · 06/07/2025 19:33

ArabellaScott · 06/07/2025 19:28

'On 21st November 2019, while hearing evidence against the Police in the High Court Mr Justice Julian Knowles, High Court Judge said:

“I have become familiar with the term TERF. It is a derogatory term used by those who seek to de-platform those who hold different views”'

High Court Judge said:
“I have become familiar with the term TERF. It is a derogatory term

Thank you, Arabella.

Datun · 06/07/2025 19:34

ArabellaScott · 06/07/2025 19:21

I call people who are activists working for transgender rights 'trans activists'. Its factual and not a slur. What would you call them?

Don't get us started!!!

Doesie · 06/07/2025 19:43

The thing is, he had already walked away, having been polite and reasoable to the police officers who asked him to... he was then surrounded away from the march by 11 officers, pushed against a wall and handcuffed. look at the footage - he is away from the march in an empty street where he had moved away to.

PaterPower · 06/07/2025 19:46

Datun · 06/07/2025 19:31

Larp. For the love of God, can you not have an original sort of your own? Just stop copying every single fucking thing women say.

I've said it before. The only reason men rule the world, is because of the brawn, because it sure as shit isn't the brain.

And you might want to have a word with your colleague about invoking Joss Prior prior as a reason to let men in women spaces 😁

He has confirmed he'll get his cock out in sex segregated spaces, and hopes it upsets the unconsenting women and girls in there.

Score!

To be fair the term LARP long predates this whole ‘debate.’

LARPing games were being advertised where I lived, with foam weapons, dressing up etc, back in the 90s.

MarvellousMonsters · 06/07/2025 19:54

MoodyAndBlue · 06/07/2025 00:36

I'm sorry but vile people do say vile things that imply this and I can only assume they are from terfs

I have literally never ever seen anyone say trans people don’t exist. No one has ever said that. Ever.

MelodyMalone · 06/07/2025 19:58

MarvellousMonsters · 06/07/2025 19:54

I have literally never ever seen anyone say trans people don’t exist. No one has ever said that. Ever.

Or that they shouldn't, despite the cries of Trans Genocide. Trans people have the same rights as everyone else. Nobody is calling for them to be exterminated!

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 06/07/2025 20:27

the problem seems to be that being able to tell what sex someone is and treating them as that sex in situations where sex is important seems to be the same as denying their existence in trans mirror world.

  1. I'm not saying you can't be whatever gender you want - knock yourself out
  2. spaces and services are segregated by sex and not gender
  3. as a human you cannot change your sex
  4. therefore any messing about with your gender makes no difference to which toilets you use

It just goes to show the power of sexism and toxic personalities that something so simple has been allowed to get so complicated

Datun · 06/07/2025 20:40

PaterPower · 06/07/2025 19:46

To be fair the term LARP long predates this whole ‘debate.’

LARPing games were being advertised where I lived, with foam weapons, dressing up etc, back in the 90s.

Quite. It's all about dressing up.

Women don't 'larp' as feminists.

MelodyMalone · 06/07/2025 20:40

Are there still ten million genders, or has that died a death now?

SugarSoiree · 06/07/2025 21:37

Datun · 06/07/2025 20:40

Quite. It's all about dressing up.

Women don't 'larp' as feminists.

Sigh.

It's not about dressing up. It's about role-playing. You can LARP in every day clothes if you want to.

It pisses me off that people who don't even understand the hobby have appropriated it to use as an insult.

SugarSoiree · 06/07/2025 21:39

SamiSnail · 06/07/2025 19:11

It is you that is clearly very angry, abusive and absolutist. You throw out lies about feminists and deny that taking away the boundaries of women and spaces of women = anti women. Deal with your own projections and prejudice.

And there is no nuance in declaring that us feminists are 'trans exclusionary' when clearly are not as we don't exclude trans men. Nor is there nuance is saying women and girls don't have the right to our boundaries and spaces. You either believe that women have sex-based rights and spaces or you don't. It really is that simple. At least own your position.

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Abusive!? Don't be ridiculous I'm not abusing you, I'm disagreeing with you and pointing out how rude you are.

I actually don't believe that trans women should be in women's single sex spaces. See how blinded by rage you are? You've assumed a lot of things about my beliefs and opinions that are incorrect.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 06/07/2025 21:43

SugarSoiree · 06/07/2025 21:39

Abusive!? Don't be ridiculous I'm not abusing you, I'm disagreeing with you and pointing out how rude you are.

I actually don't believe that trans women should be in women's single sex spaces. See how blinded by rage you are? You've assumed a lot of things about my beliefs and opinions that are incorrect.

Our harnessed rage is what has finally managed to push back on these men who have been invading our spaces

standing around tutting and handwringing wasn’t going to keep them out

SamiSnail · 06/07/2025 21:51

SugarSoiree · 06/07/2025 21:39

Abusive!? Don't be ridiculous I'm not abusing you, I'm disagreeing with you and pointing out how rude you are.

I actually don't believe that trans women should be in women's single sex spaces. See how blinded by rage you are? You've assumed a lot of things about my beliefs and opinions that are incorrect.

Where have I even once been 'rude'?

"Blinded by rage?" Goodness you're really losing it. You really truly don't like when people disagree with you, do you? You take it so personally.

Datun · 06/07/2025 21:59

SugarSoiree · 06/07/2025 21:37

Sigh.

It's not about dressing up. It's about role-playing. You can LARP in every day clothes if you want to.

It pisses me off that people who don't even understand the hobby have appropriated it to use as an insult.

Lol. Women don't role-play as feminists. And womanhood isn't a hobby.

But yes, men obviously think they can role-play as women. Dress or no dress.

I wonder which one of these men is doing the larping.

arrested at Pride for wearing a sign saying Trans=mental illness
Ereshkigalangcleg · 06/07/2025 22:30

PaterPower · 06/07/2025 19:46

To be fair the term LARP long predates this whole ‘debate.’

LARPing games were being advertised where I lived, with foam weapons, dressing up etc, back in the 90s.

Yes, I’ve been aware of it since I was a teenager in the 90s too, but that comment was a clear DARVO.

murasaki · 06/07/2025 22:36

A friend of mine used to larp as a civil war soldier at reenactments. At no point did he believe he was Oliver Cromwell. Or even pretend to.

As he was not mad. Odd, sure, but not mad.

The larping of men as women is not like that, it's far more dangerous. And he had a sword.

SugarSoiree · 06/07/2025 22:40

SamiSnail · 06/07/2025 21:51

Where have I even once been 'rude'?

"Blinded by rage?" Goodness you're really losing it. You really truly don't like when people disagree with you, do you? You take it so personally.

You're being rude right now. And you're first reply to me was aggressive too. Losing it indeed!

I don't care that you don't agree, you've actually proven my point for me! You don't seem to have a firm grasp of what is going on. I notice you chose to ignore the fact you don't actually understand what I believe or why.

SamiSnail · 06/07/2025 23:12

SugarSoiree · 06/07/2025 22:40

You're being rude right now. And you're first reply to me was aggressive too. Losing it indeed!

I don't care that you don't agree, you've actually proven my point for me! You don't seem to have a firm grasp of what is going on. I notice you chose to ignore the fact you don't actually understand what I believe or why.

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More gaslighting. The only one being rude and aggressive is you, as you are doing right now. It's clear you're not discussing in good faith. You just want to abuse people. Get a life and leave me alone.